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What does 550 horse power cost?

Started by Paul G, February 21, 2012, 09:02:35 AM

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Paul G

How much will it cost to build a 550 horse engine? Starting with the purchase of a rebuildable 440. Machine work and rotating assembly done at the machine shop. Assemble the rest your self.
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

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Chryco Psycho

550 HP  Gross
550 HP  Net
550 HP  at the rear wheels ?

Budnicks

$10-$15 per/hp is a decent guideline {depending on parts you already have}, for a quality std. type shade tree mechanic performance builds, higher end quality parts & full on race engines it could be $20-$25 up to & exceeding those #'s very quickly/easily... Depends on parts chosen, what you start with, lets say your going to start with a basic 68-72ish 440 you already own, heads rods crank & block are all in decent re-buildable shape & for over the counter basic stuff, towards the bottom of the scale, std. ignition, stock harmonic balancer, hydraulic cam, std rockers push-rods & lifters, some head work, like multi angle valve job & spring changes, some machine work like stock rods re-sized & new bolts, crank turned & balanced, block & head decking &/or surfacing, block bored & honed, new hypertech pistons, rings & bearings, new oil pump & gaskets, no real chrome or billet do dads, etc... If you chose to build a higher quality more durable high hp engine with sfi certified race quality parts, go to a Billet or high dollar stroker crankshaft, forged/billet H-Beam or billet Aluminum rods, high compression forged custom pistons & rings, sfi certified or high dollar harmonic balancer/damper, aftermarket or large bore block, roller cam & lifters, springs, Titanium valves retainers & locks, high ratio custom roller rockers, high cfm flow intake/carb & aluminum heads, high rise aluminum intakes, tunnel rams, cross rams, multi or high dollar carburetors or injection, intake head porting/polishing, belt drive or gear drives, billet accessories & chrome goodies, custom oil pan & oil system vacuum pump, super hot ignition, block girdle, windage tray &/or crank scraper, quality hardware {hardened studs, nut's, bolts & washers}, custom machine work & balancing & heavy metals for a race engine balancing etc., it will double or triple in cost pretty damn quickly...  :hah: Sometimes the best route, cost effectively or bang for the buck, is an  :hah: pre-assembled "crate engine", especially if your a novice builder or don't have the block, crank, heads & other small parts, or the knowledge already... Buy some books on the subject & study up before you spend a dime on parts, it will be money well spent...
"fill your library before you fill your garage"   Budnicks

Paul G

Quote from: Chryco Psycho on February 21, 2012, 02:14:35 PM
550 HP  Gross
550 HP  Net
550 HP  at the rear wheels ?

I would say 550 at the crank. I am driving an SRT10 Ram, it's rated at 505 HP, I would assume 505 at the crank. It is an awesome truck. I would love more HP in the Charger.
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

http://www.moparsaz.com/#

greenpigs

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/ccrp_0611_performance_engine_combinations/mopar_performance.html

This is a Car Craft build & has some parts & prices. A good steel crank 440 would be around $700-900 depending on how complete & machine work would be another 1K if you get some head work.
1969 Charger RT


Living Chevy free

Chryco Psycho

550 Gross HP AT the crank is relatively easy to do , , the other 2 are harder & would cost a lot more

A383Wing

I would say 550hp is gonna cost more than 450hp

Bryan

lasvegas69charg

You can get a fully dressed motor from blueprint engines(jegs/ summitracing)440 stroked to 493 with 525hp 590ftlb for $8k. I think that's my route instead of trying to rework my 2 bbl 383.
69 dodge charger 383/727/3.55 (my dad is the original owner-matching number) stroked to a 496😉

Paul G

There a shop here in Phoenix selling a 630 HP, 595lb' 440 for $8000. 2 yr warranty. The way I read it it comes carb to oil pan, water pump, fuel pump, harm balancer, and dizzy.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOPAR-DODGE-440-630-HORSEPOWER-COMPLETE-CRATE-ENGINE-PRO-BUILT-426-NEW-BBM-/180825498415?hash=item2a1a0a232f&item=180825498415&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

Still need to finish off the front of the motor with big block brackets and pulleys, and anything that wont swap over from the small block. Big block radiator, torsion bars, engine mounts, trans adapter kit, headers. Then new hood, or cut a hole in mine, repaint. I rough estimate all this at $5000, plus another $8000 for the motor. What am I missing?
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

http://www.moparsaz.com/#

GPULLER


lasvegas69charg

paul g, why would you need to cut a hole in the hood? 
69 dodge charger 383/727/3.55 (my dad is the original owner-matching number) stroked to a 496😉

Paul G

I have the flat hood right now. I have to use a 2" tall air cleaner to just get 1/4" clearence with the small block using an eddy RPM air gap and Holley. I would think a big block with an Eddy intake will not clear the flat hood.
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

http://www.moparsaz.com/#

lasvegas69charg

69 dodge charger 383/727/3.55 (my dad is the original owner-matching number) stroked to a 496😉

spinny

Well.... $4000 has gotten me this + a set of bare aluminum heads from 440 source.

MoparMotel

Quote from: Paul G on February 23, 2012, 04:45:02 PM
There a shop here in Phoenix selling a 630 HP, 595lb' 440 for $8000. 2 yr warranty. The way I read it it comes carb to oil pan, water pump, fuel pump, harm balancer, and dizzy.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOPAR-DODGE-440-630-HORSEPOWER-COMPLETE-CRATE-ENGINE-PRO-BUILT-426-NEW-BBM-/180825498415?hash=item2a1a0a232f&item=180825498415&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

Still need to finish off the front of the motor with big block brackets and pulleys, and anything that wont swap over from the small block. Big block radiator, torsion bars, engine mounts, trans adapter kit, headers. Then new hood, or cut a hole in mine, repaint. I rough estimate all this at $5000, plus another $8000 for the motor. What am I missing?


Go to BBB and look up reviews on Mark's Engines......Just FYI

I considered purchasing that motor as well.
1968 Dodge Charger

flyinlow

My 440 ,performer rpm, Schumacher mounts, 14x4 dropbase aircleaner clears my VFN bulge hood by about 1/4".   An Edelbrock  CH4B intake is lower and with a snorkle style cold intake system and remote filters it might clear a flat hood ?

Did you have the 518 built for 550 HP/ 600 tq ?

Challenger340

All depends WHO is doing it, and WHAT parts are used.....and WHERE you are Geographically I guess ?
NO,
all things are NOT the same.....

I am happy to report, I get $15K an Engine Complete, Finished, and Dyno'd in the Customers presence for my 560hp/580Trq non-Stroker, Pump Fuel, Flat Tappet Cam 440 package...
and Business is VERY brisk....
Only wimps wear Bowties !

Rolling_Thunder

I vote for a procharger on your existing combo    :2thumbs:
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

mauve66

Robert-Las Vegas, NV

NEEDS:
body work
paint - mauve and black
powder coat wheels - mauve and black
total wiring
PW
PDLKS
Tint
trim
engine - 520/540, eddy heads, 6pak
alignment