engine mount problem revisited

[Brightyellow69rtse]

ok i posted a thread a couple weeks ago about my motor mounts not laying flat against the car when i put the bolts through them. i took the bolts out today and in order for me to get the mounts to sit flat the bolt holes bont line up at all. are my mounts bad or could i have possibly put them on wrong?

heres what they look like without the bottom bolts in. they sit nice and flat but the bolt holes arent even close 

[Brightyellow69rtse]

heres what they look like when the bolts are in

[tan top]

yes remember the pictures you posted the other week  !! ,  have you still got  your old ones  you removed  , if so  put the two side by side  & look / mesure stuff  ,   where did you get the mounts  ?? what make ??
 

[Cooter]

Looks like The "Chinaman" made that one on Monday...

[Brightyellow69rtse]

i think i still got them. i got them from 440 source. it looks like if the rubber was 1/4 thicker it would be perfect.

[maxwellwedge]

You can either find some NOS mounts (That's what I do - They are out there) or keep buying this shit Made in Whogivesacrapastan junk until they send you a pair that may actually fit.

I can't get over the amount of crap out there other people leave up to us to worry about how to make it fit.

Ok - End of rant.

[firefighter3931]

You can either find some NOS mounts (That's what I do - They are out there) or keep buying this shit Made in Whogivesacrapastan junk until they send you a pair that may actually fit.

I can't get over the amount of crap out there other people leave up to us to worry about how to make it fit.

Ok - End of rant.

Lol    I have to agree....lotsa junk out there ! 


Mike, it's obvious the holes were drilled incorrectly. Maybe look ar something from Advance/Autozone/Napa to see if it fits better 



Ron

[Brightyellow69rtse]

i called everyone just now. advanced and cap dont even have a listing for it......carquest can get me them for 9$ each fri morning so i guess ill go that route.

[John_Kunkel]

Here's a pic of a factory mount with the hole center a little under one inch down (7/8"), looks like your Chinee is made wrong.

[Brightyellow69rtse]

thank you sir! 440 source prolly put a made in the usa sticker on it before they shipped it i think there was 2 stickers per mount

[maxwellwedge]

Probably will be the same Made in India crap but I hope you get lucky and they send a pair that actually fit. 

[Brightyellow69rtse]

i just measured the pas side one. the center of the hole is 1 1/8th im gonna measure the new ones before i even leave the store. 440 source could have easily checked this this is completly unnecessary

[charger Downunder]

Yep hole too far down. If people are going to reproduce  things they should keep an original item to use for quality control and check each batch. Rather than testing on the consumer and bringing their name and reputation down.

[firefighter3931]

Mike, if you can't find the correct mount there's allways the option of welding a small plate onto the existing mount and drilling the holes in the right spot. Just an idea in case you hit a dead end on the search. 

And while you have that driver side mount off make sure to reinforce it. The Bugle head bolts should be available at Ace Hardware ; that's where we found them in Vegas when we did this mod to Vegas Mike's Charger. 



Ron

[Brightyellow69rtse]

Ron i could easily weld up the hole and redrill it but i would assume the nut is also welded .250" too low. ill know when i get it off. pronly on friday.

[Cooter]

You wanna know what's really sad? People in the hobby Know full and well that 440 Source sells "junk" that isn't right, but it's got the consumer hooked like a crackhead sucking on a glass d**k...IT'S CHEAPER.

Cheap will always win out over buying a more expensive option, even if it doesn't fit. Aluminum heads sold NEW, "Made in the USA"? Try $2000.00 after shipping, pushrods, ettc. to make 'em work.

"Stealth" heads from 440Source that need a total rebuild and are cast offshore try $900.00 Shipped assembled.
Stroker Cranks Made in the USA? Try $3000-$5000.00 EACH....

440Source Stroker "kits" made over seas and "final machined" here (Albiet incorrectly, and balanced incorrectly) try $1500.00 for everything..Selling like Hot cakes.

As consumers in the good 'ol US of A, we will inevidably roll the dice on "Junk" that's cheaper and hope against hope that we come out on the other side with a cheaper Hot Rod/Restoration. Then, when we get a "dud" every once and a while, we knew it was cheap, Japanese/Chinese "junk", but we buy it anyway....

[Brightyellow69rtse]

as i stated both mounts had made in the usa stickers on them. i suspect that the sticker was indeed made in the use. the mount not so much.

[Cooter]

BrightYellow, This wasn't nessesarily aimed at you imperticular, but in general.
Of course, this isn't to say that "Made in USA" Couldn't have been made on a Monday here as well, by an actual "Crackhead"...

[Brightyellow69rtse]

its very possible lol. well heres hoping the napa ones measure correctly so i can get this thing up and running. now i got a tranny jack too! my dad stopped by a few days ago before work. he hands me a heavy box and goes merry christmas. so 4 speed install should go decently anyway.

[Cooter]

IF it helps, I bought the "India" ones from NAPA and they are drilled correctly where yours aren't.

[Brightyellow69rtse]

we will see tomorrow  i hope so. if they are the new mounts are moing in and hopefully the tranny. i really wanna fire this badboy up. i should be fairly close to 500hp.