What do you think of this Charger for sale?

[tpetty]

It's black, has AC, and a metal top.  All features I like.  It's automatic, so not "perfect" to me. 

Says a lot of money has been spent -- almost too much to believe.  How can you spend over $100k on a restoration and still have brown gauges?

Any comments (pro/con) based on description & photos?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Charger-Dodge-Charger-R-T-440-Magnum-/220815568971?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3369a2304b

[maxwellwedge]

I think somewhere around the starting bid price is fair.

[Back N Black]

There is no way he spent 100K on that car. If the gauges are brown, its safe to say it has original wiring .

[Kern Dog]

Its a nice looking car, but.....
I'd be wary of the guy for a few reasons. First up, there is no such thing as a "frame off" restoration on a unibody car. This is a man that tosses out NON Mopar phrases in an attempt to sound car savvy. He might as well said that it has a Posi and a turbo hydramatic 727. Second, there is no way to bore an engine 5 thousandths of an inch to achieve 505 cubic inches. A .030 overbored 440 block with a 4.25 crank gets 505 inches. Finally, to reach a restoration $ total of $110,000, you'd have to be a man that would rather write checks than to turn a wrench. You could take a burned out, rusted parts car and restore it to the level of this car and still do it cheaper.
The car looks really nice in the pictures. Maybe the seller is a guy that got caught up in the Muscle car frenzy a few years back and he realized that old cars are not for everyone.

[bakerhillpins]

Says a lot of money has been spent -- almost too much to believe.  How can you spend over $100k on a restoration and still have brown gauges?

I suspect there is a hefty dose of ebay exaggeration in there.

when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth

Off the cuf:
Missing the sail panel charger emblems
Brown gages - as you mention
Wrong color!!!  Why in gods name would you paint over Silver?!!  
It might just be the photos combined with the black car but it looks like the rear valance corners are smooth...
Looks like they removed the heater controls
has aftermarket AC.
No fender tag?
No jack or spare.

I think somewhere around the starting bid price is fair.

No bids as of yet should say something about that, though ebay does like to start low.

[472 R/T SE]

The guy he bought it from spent $110k & he spent another $25k since he's owned it so the car has $135k sunk into it...and the gauges were never touched.  

I read the description first & thought wow, I'm anxious to see the engine bay.  What a let down that was.  Wonder why there's 100 wires going to the + side of the battery.

He might have gotten closer to his BIN if they would have painted it the original color.

 +/- $5k-$8k Jim's guess.

[maxwellwedge]

   That's why I said somewhere "around" the starting price is fair.....gotta leave that wiggle room! 

[68X426]

There was a fender tag in the slide show. Tough to read.

[HITMAN 149]

and i wouldn't consider it a RESTO-MOD!!! the int looks stock to me!!!!!!!!!!
lol stgill a nice lookin car... BUT certainly not $100k+ car!!!!!!! and its a column car also!!!!!! 

[68X426]

I'm ok with the emblems removed, but he should go all the way and shave the handles, remove the moldings, and run with black wheels.

Or else put the emblems back on. 

If he adds hubcaps he can perform stunts like in my sig pic.

[bakerhillpins]

  That's why I said somewhere "around" the starting price is fair.....gotta leave that wiggle room! 

True.. plus, no one likes to start off with their final offer. 

[69 OUR/TEA]

Did'nt see that one,been to busy looking for a GS vert!!!!They're easier to find!!!!!!

Ayway,this one does'nt look that nice ,IMO.Alot of fixin to do,move on.

[tan top]

   sorry would not entertain that car !!  look for another !  

if you don't mind a bit of work ? & hard to tell from the pictures  but
how a bout this  

http://www.cars-on-line.com/54291.html


if your not  fussed on a Big block car !!  & get rid of the white tail stripe !  could always drop a stroker small block in it , & keep the original engine in the garage  

liking this charger also , not because of the color  ( yeah i know its Y2  )  but looks well straight  

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-DODGE-CHARGER-318-V8-s-MATCH-AC-SHOW-CAR-CHARGER-/310332062380?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item48413b7aac

[XS29LA47V21]

My thoughts are... if your not looking for a rare nice optioned car like the Silver RT  was originally, silver being an added cost original option, very cool... until  cannibalized. If original FLA car, be carefull.  I agree with Tan top, that Y2 looks like a nice car in photos, I DO LIKE the white accents, although maint monster, if the power  is not needed leave the motor as it, although I would have to chase more motor.  Good luck with your search.

[bakerhillpins]

if you don't mind a bit of work ? & hard to tell from the pictures  but
how a bout this  

http://www.cars-on-line.com/54291.html

So you are aware, that car has been listed on craigslist for the past 2 months at $17k.  I talked with the owner on that car. It's originally a 383 4spd 2bbl car. He has owned it for about 6 months. It's got a quick respray with some "minor" fiberglass repair in the rear. In the big pic in that ad it actually looks wavy in the lower quarter. The original 383 is was blown in 70 and replaced with a 440. The 440 in there is apparently the 3rd one 

[tpetty]

That's why I love posting ads/questions like this -- you guys can pick up a lot of things from pics that I miss.   

[bsakal]

2 inch headers with 3 inch collectors, 2 inch exhaust and 3 inch tips. LOL. And brown gauges are one of my biggest pet peeves.

[Bob T]

I'm ok with the emblems removed
If he adds hubcaps he can perform stunts like in my sig pic.

But the hubcaps arent even on in your sig pic     

Brown guages and column shift for 100k , no thanks

[tan top]

if you don't mind a bit of work ? & hard to tell from the pictures  but
how a bout this  

http://www.cars-on-line.com/54291.html

So you are aware, that car has been listed on craigslist for the past 2 months at $17k.  I talked with the owner on that car. It's originally a 383 4spd 2bbl car. He has owned it for about 6 months. It's got a quick respray with some "minor" fiberglass repair in the rear. In the big pic in that ad it actually looks wavy in the lower quarter. The original 383 is was blown in 70 and replaced with a 440. The 440 in there is apparently the 3rd one  

nooooooo ouch !! was just going by tha advert !! never contacted the owner  to ask anything    ,  383 2barrel four speed ! rare car though

[bakerhillpins]

I'm not suggesting that the car is hopeless by any stretch of the imagination. But if you are looking for a turnkey driver in decent shape you might not be happy with that car.

if you don't mind a bit of work ? & hard to tell from the pictures  but
how a bout this  

http://www.cars-on-line.com/54291.html

So you are aware, that car has been listed on craigslist for the past 2 months at $17k.  I talked with the owner on that car. It's originally a 383 4spd 2bbl car. He has owned it for about 6 months. It's got a quick respray with some "minor" fiberglass repair in the rear. In the big pic in that ad it actually looks wavy in the lower quarter. The original 383 is was blown in 70 and replaced with a 440. The 440 in there is apparently the 3rd one  

nooooooo ouch !! was just going by tha advert !! never contacted the owner  to ask anything    ,  383 2barrel four speed ! rare car though

He apparently has the broadcast sheet and original dealer window sticker. Mostly my point was to let him know of the length of time it has been listed and the lower price of that listing. 

[bull]

So the XS VIN is BS?

[tan top]

I'm not suggesting that the car is hopeless by any stretch of the imagination. But if you are looking for a turnkey driver in decent shape you might not be happy with that car.

if you don't mind a bit of work ? & hard to tell from the pictures  but
how a bout this  

http://www.cars-on-line.com/54291.html

So you are aware, that car has been listed on craigslist for the past 2 months at $17k.  I talked with the owner on that car. It's originally a 383 4spd 2bbl car. He has owned it for about 6 months. It's got a quick respray with some "minor" fiberglass repair in the rear. In the big pic in that ad it actually looks wavy in the lower quarter. The original 383 is was blown in 70 and replaced with a 440. The 440 in there is apparently the 3rd one  

nooooooo ouch !! was just going by tha advert !! never contacted the owner  to ask anything    ,  383 2barrel four speed ! rare car though

He apparently has the broadcast sheet and original dealer window sticker. Mostly my point was to let him know of the length of time it has been listed and the lower price of that listing.  

 

does need lot of body work !! but something like that at least you know what what when you do the body !! that black car in the original posting !! 50 thousand , for that who knows whats under the shiney black paint , , not saying there is any iffy stuff, but there are a few of things wrong with the car !one of the  biggest ones that , makes me wonder! inner lower rear quarter trunk floor extension no plastic plug !! how long has this been missing ?? water mud debris from driving !! all getting flung up inside , not good  

[Troy]

So the XS VIN is BS?

I think they're discussing the Cars Online ad.

Troy

[bull]

Oh. Well, I think this black one is decent but pretty pricey in this market. I'd say it's probably worth $20k depending on the condition of the body/paint. I don't think it's worth $30k at all though, let alone $50k. And yes, I agree they should have left it silver. Black is what you cover green with.

[tatrick2me]

Over the past five years of playing with my 73. Which I wreck in 75 [and never repaired]. Including a front clip, K frame, 318/391 stroker, and all the goodies that go from it to the rear wheels. Hand making new seat covers, changing color from gold to purple, tires wheels bla, bla, bla. I only have have 11 grand in it including the 4100$ purchase price in 73. No way is more than 12 grand tied up inh that car.