Might Ruin Your Day

[MoparManJim]

I'm on another forum and a friend of mine posted this up on there. After I seen the link and went to check it out. For you all that are having a good day so far, you might "not" want to click on the link as it will more like ruin your day after you watch the clip..   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4gRrZesqvw

[70 Charger RT]

I can relate.  This happened to my 69 RT SE a few years back.

[tan top]

  sad sight

[jb666]

That's horrible! 

[terrible one]

I can relate.  This happened to my 69 RT SE a few years back.

Oh man! What happened? 

[Tilar]

I can relate.  This happened to my 69 RT SE a few years back.

I remember when you posted that... Did they catch the guys that did it?

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,57954.msg645741.html

[vancamp]

sad sights

[Charger_Fan]

Damn, I remember when that happened, too.

[A383Wing]

It should buff out... 

[moparnole]

Wow.....that ruined my day.......

[70 Charger RT]

To make a long story short, it was stolen and torched.  They never did catch the guy.  I think they didn't even bother looking.  The only plus in this case was that it was covered by insurance.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

So whats the story with the car in the video?  Is he a member?

[Bobs69]

Other then things being warped to  H E double hockey sticks and the availability of new sheet metal.  Is it true when a car is burned like that it can not be painted again?  That is some chemical reaction makes it "impossible".  As I type this I realize how it sounds.........

[twodko]

I would think every body panel would be hopelessly warped and unending frame problems from such high heat.

[chargd72]

That makes me want to puke 

Here it is when it was running.  I hope it wasn't the car that started the fire.  Lot of liquids hanging out under there.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheHowards03#p/u/33/48mZ4-e-c5s

[richRTSE]

That makes me want to puke 

Here it is when it was running.  I hope it wasn't the car that started the fire.  Lot of liquids hanging out under there.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheHowards03#p/u/33/48mZ4-e-c5s

I saw that video too and wondered the same thing. Lots of spliced wires hanging out all over too. Hopefully no one was hurt and he had homeowners insurance. Houses and cars can be replaced, familes can't. Very sad indeed though...

[XS29L9B2]

arf that is an horror 

[billssuperbird]

 

[Chad L. Magee]

Other then things being warped to  H E double hockey sticks and the availability of new sheet metal.  Is it true when a car is burned like that it can not be painted again?  That is some chemical reaction makes it "impossible".  As I type this I realize how it sounds.........

It is true that if a car is burned, the surface can have adhesion problems down the road if it is not cleaned right.  Iron (in steel) in the presence of air and high temperature will undergo a fast rusting process and we know how well rust holds paint.  The main way to prevent this is to carefully prep the surface (sand down into the metal a bit) and acid etching is done before primer coated.  The acid will remove the remaining rust from the surface, which gives the paint a place to bond on to.  There is another problem though in the fire process: iron grains can change states within the metal due to both stress and heat.  This causes the metal to be not as strong as the original state, which means that it will tend to flex more (ie. warping effect).  Some good body work can fix this problem some, but usually it means new panels are needed.  If painted wrong (too thick), flexing can lead to stress cracks in the paint.  Since paint is basically a form of liquid plastic that hardens as it dries (becomes much less flexible), such cars should be painted with flexible paint formulas that are more forgiving to metal flex (to prevent this problem from occurring)..... 

Off Topic a bit-  On the subject of iron heated in the presence of certain materials, this can sometimes be a desirable effect.  Swords with hardened blades are made by heating the iron mixture in the presence of carbon (coal coke) and beating it in over time.  As the iron is cooled, heated, hammered, cooled, etc. again and again, the carbon atoms work their way into the atomic framework (crystal lattice) of the iron atoms.  As it does this, the metal becomes more dense in atoms, which hardens the steel because there is less unoccupied space in the structure.  This is the carbon steel that we all love.  So, heating iron can sometimes be a good thing....

[Bobs69]

Thanks Chad.

[bill440rt]

Actually, heat will cause the metal to become more brittle.
As sad as it is to see, the reality is that the car is a goner. Who knows what panels are good, what panels are bad, & what panels are structurally sacrificed?
Any insurance carrier will total it out for sure, it will simply cost too much to bring it back from that state as it will to replace the vehicle.

I feel for that guy. 

[Chad L. Magee]

Actually, heat will cause the metal to become more brittle.
As sad as it is to see, the reality is that the car is a goner. Who knows what panels are good, what panels are bad, & what panels are structurally sacrificed?
Any insurance carrier will total it out for sure, it will simply cost too much to bring it back from that state as it will to replace the vehicle.

I feel for that guy. 

True, heat can cause the metal to crack (usually at grain boundries within the steel) when too much pressure is applied.  That is part of the reason why body work on burned cars can be hard to do.  I have seen people build up fragile metal items with a ionic spraying technique though that is supposed to "toughen" the metal back to near the original strength.  It is an electrospray system that uses metal vapor in a vacuum to create adhesion to the metal surface and fill in the cracks.  You can even use this to fill in rust holes after the rust has been removed.  The cost on a large item (like a car body) might be too much for what it is worth though..... 

[bill440rt]

Actually, heat will cause the metal to become more brittle.
As sad as it is to see, the reality is that the car is a goner. Who knows what panels are good, what panels are bad, & what panels are structurally sacrificed?
Any insurance carrier will total it out for sure, it will simply cost too much to bring it back from that state as it will to replace the vehicle.

I feel for that guy.  

True, heat can cause the metal to crack (usually at grain boundries within the steel) when too much pressure is applied.  That is part of the reason why body work on burned cars can be hard to do.  I have seen people build up fragile metal items with a ionic spraying technique though that is supposed to "toughen" the metal back to near the original strength.  It is an electrospray system that uses metal vapor in a vacuum to create adhesion to the metal surface and fill in the cracks.  You can even use this to fill in rust holes after the rust has been removed.  The cost on a large item (like a car body) might be too much for what it is worth though.....  

OK, I've seen that too. It's still a cosmetic repair. What about the areas you can't spray?
At the end of the day, the big question is would you put yourself OR your FAMILY back in that car?? Not me. No way.
Find another, start over. Sell that crusted shell to Hollywood, let them use it in some new crappy movie where they destroy some other old cars. That'll give it yet another lease on life before it's sent on it's way.

[Wicked72]

....my god... thats horrible....Mine is a fire victim to but the engine fire only got into the cowl, into the the dash and down the trans. worst thing is going to be cutting the cowl to remove the rust and replacing the front fender thats warped which is all that got warped thankfully. I am soda blasting the rust off if its not enough I gotta sand blaster that will do the job.

[drifter69]

The steel will never be the same it has to go. It is just to bad.