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A "Double-headed penny" - is this 1969 Charger R/T for real?

Started by XS29L9Bxxxxxx, November 07, 2010, 01:27:29 PM

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XS29L9Bxxxxxx

This car has been advertised forever! Pardon me if this has been discussed before however, I could not find it...


Double-headed penny??  Please help explain this one...  :popcrn:


QuoteDodge Charger R/T . 440 Automatic: Gold Exterior:Black Interior;Documented, Rare, One-of-a-kind:The only 440-Block Documented from Hamtrack Plant Cast Without Casting Numbers and Date Codes. 68" Vin.Stampings. Block and Trans are 440 R/T Charger, Correct. The Double - Headed - Penny - Block: Unique Collectors Item: Documented; Professionally Appraised; This is an original California R/T Charger with air conditioning. The car is very original only one repaint. Runs and drives excellent. The engine is extremely rare as there is no other known to exist with this condition. Extensive appraisal has been done over the past two years. Very documented and verified. Appraisal at $50K. Economy forces me into an immediate sell. Serious Inquiries Only: 317.281.5502


http://classiccars.com/66895.car

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

More:  :popcrn:

Also, for a motor built Dec.. 28th, I would think the car would have been built after Jan 1, 1969. If so, where are the headrests for the seats?

Quote1969 Dodge Charger R/T

1969" Dodge Charger R/T Coupe, # XS29L9B:
"Rare Collectors Item"

"A Double-Headed Penny:" Block Stamping #D440 1228 HP 440ci.375Hp.Big Block Chrysler "RB"Motor;
This particular motor was Built December 28th.1968" "Correct Charger R/T"
Intake #2806178 DC.#12187; Carter Quadrajet 4-BBl.#AVS4640 (MT4429S) PN92; Water Pump #2780987;
Exhaust Manifolds #2806900 RH & #2843992-1 LH. Distributor #2875758, Radiator #2949055 is 26",Oil Pan #402-#2532401. *Note;"All Engine Components "Correct"
Frame #2925930; Correct Code #15=1969"
Solid,Gold Exterior Body with Black Deluxe R/T Interior:
727-Torqueflight Automatic Transmission( Correctly Stamped w.Motor) Tail Shaft #2466901; with Slap-Stick Floor Shifter, Woodgrained console with glove box and floor lights.
8 3/4 Rear End Housing #2852905=B-Body "Correct" with Original axles,& 3.50:1 gears.

All of this particular vehicles Body numbers stampings from the radiator core support to the rear deck lid area are all "Correct", the vehicle has never been wrecked, and it is very solid.(* See Report Documentation)

All RPO Codes on this particular car are deciphered and are correct to this vehicle including the "Air-Conditioning" and all related components. The Body Trim tag is original to the car and has been completely decoded and authenticated as well. The car is a very good car.

Condition: The exterior body was repainted the original Gold color sometime in the late 80's or so and the paint condition is nominal. I would repaint the car professionally if it were mine and replate the front and rear chrome bumpers.

Mechanically: The car is in Excellent mechanical running condition, as I have personally drove this vehicle
approximately 50-miles through city and highway conditions, to its current garaging facility. It rides very good, handling is excellent, steering is excellent, shocks and suspension systems all working very good.
The car accelerates exceptionally well, shifts perfectly, and stops fine.

The "Rare Collectors"attention to this vehicle is in its Block. "The Date Codes and the Casting Numbers"
were never cast into the bare block from the foundry. All other Chrysler 440 big block have the date codes and casting numbers cast into the sides of the motor between the freeze plug area (for Quality control)
under the exhaust manifolds. It is "Tremendously Rare" for this particular facet of quality control, to be missing. Cross examination shows the "sand-pattern' in the steel unaffected: The numbers have Not been ground Off: This is a "Very Rare Occurrence", it has been well documented through all the leading Authorities in the Country, and is "Authenticated"properly. This makes the vehicle by its integrity and numbers far "Rarer" than any other Dodge Charger R/T to date. Additional information and documentation
can and will be discussed for "Serious" buyers. Again this data has been Authenticated, Appraised, and well
Documented and it does stand up on its own merits for "What It Is". RARE.

Thank you for taking the time to look at these qualification on the particular vehicle. We appreciate your interest and correspondence.

Sale Price: $75,000.00


From:

http://www.vintageautoappraisers.com/carsforsale/chargerrt.html




Brock Samson


tan top

remember that car for sale also , think it was advertised for hundered thousand at one stage !!!  :o  ,  there was a thread about this car on here when it first come up for sale ,
thats intresting in that the block was a D series 440 :yesnod:  
wonder if it was terquise before being orange  :scratchchin:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,74683.25.html


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found the thread  :yesnod: 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,33476.0.html

started by runninghorn :scratchchin:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
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Richard Cranium

The Date Codes and the Casting Numbers" were never cast into the bare block from the foundry.

Aren't casting codes molded into the block at the time it was cast? 



I'm still trying to figure out what the author says is so special about the block.
I am Dr. Remulac

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Quote from: Richard Cranium on November 07, 2010, 03:17:58 PM
The Date Codes and the Casting Numbers" were never cast into the bare block from the foundry.

Aren't casting codes molded into the block at the time it was cast? 



I'm still trying to figure out what the author says is so special about the block.

Right  :2thumbs:   Thinking back to 8th grade shop and pouring metal in our foundry, in order for the code portion to exist, proud to the surface, a relief needs to be in the mold to allow the metal to flow into that area and in a specific pattern.

That said, if it were a "mistake", wouldn't there just be a big glob of extra metal that went into the void (where the casting date insert) which was left out?  :popcrn:

Chad L. Magee

Sorry guys, but as a numismatist, I must respond to the comment above:

The guy must not be a coin collector from the "double headed penny" phrase he used.  Pennies (or the more accurate cents) are struck with two dies (one obverse with the head and one reverse).  Double headed (ie. struck from the same obverse dies on both sides) do not exist from the mint, rather they are manufactured after the fact by someone wanting said coin.  This is done by sawing two coins in half down the edge to get four coin sides and then gluing the two obverses together to make one coin.   Typically a double headed or double reversed coin is used as a tool in a magic show and are essentially worthless to collectors.  Coins with the wrong sides (ie. dollar side on a quarter) sometimes do happen and are called mules in the hobby (worth $$$ if you find a real one).....
Ph.D. Metallocene Chemist......