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How can I make my 72 look into this?

Started by JDMV, November 05, 2010, 06:50:50 AM

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JDMV

I am going to get my dads 72 Charger SE(400 2barrel) pretty soon and its in a pretty rough shape but I don't mind I'm thinking about painting it orange  :drool5:
and I've always like the Olympia Charger idk why but I would like to know if you guys know what they did to the body of this charger cause it doesn't look original one bit I would plan on making it like such without the welded doors, what do you guys think?

Ghoste


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nvrbdn

the main difference i see is that it looks like they have opened up the wheel wells some taking out the lip that folds back in towards the tire making the sides look flatter around the tires. mabey to hold those larger tire sizes. other than that the lines all look the same. good look for that car. i guess you can either weld metal in to get that look, or cut them out like they did. :2thumbs:
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71charger_fan

That Olympia car is a recreation using a '73/'74 body. Might be why it doesn't look right to you.

Nacho-RT74

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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: 71charger_fan on November 05, 2010, 09:41:24 AM
That Olympia car is a recreation using a '73/'74 body. Might be why it doesn't look right to you.

oops, you beat me for some seconds LOL

but weird... it states 1:26 seconds... didn't took me that long to post what I posted
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Mike DC

 
I'm afraid there won't be any easy way to get that wheel/tire/body stance from a stock Charger unibody. 

Those race cars had the whole lower half of the car attached to the upper half closer together than a stock unibody.  The floorpan and the roof skin were closer together than stock.  You could lower a street car down somewhat, but you're not getting close to the look of those old racecars unless you want the framerails to be so close to the pavement that you can't realistically drive it.

Same with the wheels & wheelwells.  Not happening without some serious chopping of the sheetmetal.



In the pics, I get the feeling there is't much original unmodified sheemetal below the height of the door handles.  It's probably handformed sheetmetal like with most stock cars from this era and later.   

JDMV

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 05, 2010, 10:46:39 AM
 
I'm afraid there won't be any easy way to get that wheel/tire/body stance from a stock Charger unibody. 

Those race cars had the whole lower half of the car attached to the upper half closer together than a stock unibody.  The floorpan and the roof skin were closer together than stock.  You could lower a street car down somewhat, but you're not getting close to the look of those old racecars unless you want the framerails to be so close to the pavement that you can't realistically drive it.

Same with the wheels & wheelwells.  Not happening without some serious chopping of the sheetmetal.



In the pics, I get the feeling there is't much original unmodified sheemetal below the height of the door handles.  It's probably handformed sheetmetal like with most stock cars from this era and later.   


Yeah I thought so, well is there any advice to get a semi look a like, wonder what kind of tires it has

Wicked72

Yeah those tires would be awsome on dry days, but hit a patch of leaves or get caught in the rain and you might as well park it. You can get tires with the wall lettering and if you really want a particular set then you can just get tire paint and take a little time to get the effect you want.
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ACUDANUT

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on November 05, 2010, 09:42:50 AM
well, initially thats a 73/74, not a 72 :P
Yea, why would you want a 72 Charger to look like a 73/74/  :eek2:
71/72 Chargers are far better. IMO :cheers:



hemi-hampton

Almost looks like a 1 peice fibergalss body :scratchchin:  LEON.

jaak

Quote from: ACUDANUT on November 05, 2010, 07:27:07 PM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on November 05, 2010, 09:42:50 AM
well, initially thats a 73/74, not a 72 :P
Yea, why would you want a 72 Charger to look like a 73/74/  :eek2:


Because thats the best way to improve the looks!  :nana:

Jason

ACUDANUT


JDMV

So I guess I am going to try it, idk what to do with my engine tho

69bronzeT5

Quote from: JDMV on November 07, 2010, 12:47:01 AM
So I guess I am going to try it, idk what to do with my engine tho

400's can be pretty badass when they're built up with a good 4bbl, headers etc :icon_smile_wink:
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Brock Samson

 Well, you could research the "stroker 400"s... they are supposed to be pretty bad assed... but i don't see any evidence your up to such a modified car... sometimes guys think they want the most baddest ass car out there, but the vehicle turns out to be such a can 'o worms in their build - they end up trying to get out from under the mess at a huge loss of time and money...
just my two pennies..  :shruggy: good luck, hope you have an unlimited budget.  :2thumbs:

JDMV

Quote from: Brock Samson on November 07, 2010, 02:01:54 PM
Well, you could research the "stroker 400"s... they are supposed to be pretty bad assed... but i don't see any evidence your up to such a modified car... sometimes guys think they want the most baddest ass car out there, but the vehicle turns out to be such a can 'o worms in their build - they end up trying to get out from under the mess at a huge loss of time and money...
just my two pennies..  :shruggy: good luck, hope you have an unlimited budget.  :2thumbs:

Well for now I kinda do have a big budget and Im in no hurry im not saying I want this bad boy out in the streets in a month or two its going to take a while to perfect it so Im not worried about that and even at that I know im still going to be messing with it later  ;D

RallyeMike

I've seen that car in person. In fact, that looks like the photo I took outside the 4th Ave Alehouse in Olympia WA.

That car is the real deal Nascar from the 70's. It was repainted to look like the Oly special which was actually a 71-72. Though it may not look it, the Body is HEAVILY worked over and you won't be able to make your car look quite like that without serious chopping and hacking of sheet metal, etc.

You can simulate the appearance if you are willing to lower the car and cut your wheel wells.

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nvrbdn

you can take your 400 block and clean it up, put a nice mid cam in there and flat top pistons, find a pair of older 383 heads "closed chamber" 4bbl intake and carb. you basically will have a bored out 383 with a little pop to it. will be all you need to smoke the tires but will also be driveable.
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Quote from: hemi-hampton on November 05, 2010, 07:33:30 PM
Almost looks like a 1 peice fibergalss body :scratchchin:  LEON.

yeah i thought that at first !! its the welded up & bondoed over seams that make it look that way to me , sort of funnycar ish  :scratchchin:
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  IF I end up doing a stocker out of my 68 I was going to use 2"spacers in the rear and 2" drop spindles in the front to lower it.  Dropping  a body down over the floor pan  is WAY to much work for  what you would get in return for a street vehicle. :Twocents:
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JDMV

Okayy thanks guys will post up pictures soon:D

MRHWS

The real nascar was a '74 driven by Hershal McGriff. Based on the body seams, stance, roll cage, location of the hood pins, this could possibly be a race car converted to street car or a lotta work done to go the other way. As for the tires, you can get new ones off eBay for $45 and they are the correct era white letter eagle without the #1.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/27-10-0x15-Goodyear-Stock-Car-Special-Non-DOT-race-tire-/290407055474?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item439d9c0072
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