Chop Cut Rebuild is doing a 69 charger this season.......

[djcarguy]

yea info on 70 rr ad car on FORGOTTen MOPars, he got the body then sold off to be restoryed????WHAT IS HAPPENING with forgotten mopars,is it dead or coming back,or brokkenn??///  thanks was a great site,,,     i think or maybe know that kid is on here some where,what up...lol  ...keep going on your charger,but do repair the rust under and drive safe,lol  ...bye dj carguy

[Chris G.]

How would you "theorists" or "enthusiasts" or "experts" diagnose this?

and djcarguy...

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

To this day I remember my Father preaching how I needed to protect my driver's license to keep insurance rates down.  Back then before I even bought a car I needed to check insurance rates first.

I also remember cars that were considered "dirty" cause a VIN had been manipulated trying to influence insurance rates so their resale value was nonexistent.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this car was built as an insurance beater.  Sure it had the J code but how diligent was the insurance cos.?  Was the fact it was an XP instead of an XS enough of a savings for a person to order it that way?

I don't see how a 427 Hemi would save insurance money over a 440. Block size? I know my unsurance was simply based on V8, nothing more.

As for the earlier post suggesting the non-R/T would be a weight savings, well then why would they order the 8 track instead of the "lighter" AM/FM radio? 

I believe the ins co's used the HP rating of an engine to value insurance no?   Isnt that why most of the big HP engines were severely under rated?

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

How would you "theorists" or "enthusiasts" or "experts" diagnose this?

and djcarguy...

Hey look a TYPO!!!!  

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

And look!  Two 1 of 1's in the same photo!

[tan top]

How would you "theorists" or "enthusiasts" or "experts" diagnose this?

and djcarguy...

Hey look a TYPO!!!!  

damn  slant 6 in an R/T  , see see to beat the insurance    just kidding
prolly a V code car & someone hit the wrong letter  

intresting that these miss stamped cars could have made it through inspections over the years !!
good picture , intresting , thanks for sharing  

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

prolly a V code car & someone hit the wrong letter 

You mean a typo?/? 

[Chris G.]

prolly a V code car & someone hit the wrong letter  

So why is this car "probably" a V Code because someone hit the wrong letter, but the CCR car cannot be a typo, or even the '70 500 Hemi?

[Ghoste]

And as for getting the big engine ordered in the base car to beat insurance, I would think that anyone with enough clout to make that happen within Chrysler would have had enough clout to be able to afford their insurance.  Especially since the insurance thing was just beginning to take off at that time, it didn't hit full rape for about another year.
I am leaning very much to this car being a typo.  Which still makes it a cool car.

[Ghoste]

(snip)
I don't see how a 427 Hemi would save insurance money over a 440. (snip)

Like Dan's typo here (I added the red), because I know that after hanging around us Mopar guys for this long now that he is fully aware that the Hemi was 426 cubes and that the 427 thing was a size used by the enemy.

[tan top]

How would you "theorists" or "enthusiasts" or "experts" diagnose this?

and djcarguy...

Hey look a TYPO!!!! 

damn  slant 6 in an R/T  , see see to beat the insurance    just kidding
prolly a V code car & someone hit the wrong letter 

intresting that these miss stamped cars could have made it through inspections over the years !!
good picture , intresting , thanks for sharing 

prolly a V code car & someone hit the wrong letter  

You mean a typo?/?  

YES     because  C & V are next to each other on the key board ,  but thinking that way , C code is a slant 6 engine code for 1970 & just as easy hit B code , which is a slant 6 for 69 , ! but the vin tag clearly shows 0 for 1970 !!  hmm
perhaps the S is the typo & it should say H or even P but these letters are not even close on a key board !! unless who ever was typing out the broad cast sheets or Vin plates , or what ever is done first , is crap at typing like me ! as i hit the wrong keys all the time  

prolly a V code car & someone hit the wrong letter  

So why is this car "probably" a V Code because someone hit the wrong letter, but the CCR car cannot be a typo, or even the '70 500 Hemi?

yes that could also !
it could   very well be a typo  , but it might not be  

[TUFCAT]

I am leaning very much to this car being a typo.  Which still makes it a cool car.

If the grungy old 440 pulled from this car had a matching vin sequence it could help prove the "typo theory".

[Ghoste]

That's why I'm hoping Dan will obtain (and share) that info.

[TUFCAT]

We're all hoping its still a real XP Hemi car.....

However, there's nothing wrong with owning the only "Typo Hemi XP",  if that's what it turns out to be.

This car will always maintain its status as a significant piece of Mopar history regardless of whether a Hemi was installed in XP29J!

[Ghoste]

In some ways I think I would feel better if it were just a typo and the search could go on for the brochure car and have it turn out to be the only XP Hemi car.  I don't know why, it's just the bizarre way my tiny mind works I guess?

[Richard Cranium]

How would you "theorists" or "enthusiasts" or "experts" diagnose this?

and djcarguy...

Hey look a TYPO!!!! 

damn  slant 6 in an R/T  , see see to beat the insurance    just kidding
prolly a V code car & someone hit the wrong letter 

intresting that these miss stamped cars could have made it through inspections over the years !!
good picture , intresting , thanks for sharing 

prolly a V code car & someone hit the wrong letter  

You mean a typo?/?  

YES     because  C & V are next to each other on the key board ,  but thinking that way , C code is a slant 6 engine code for 1970 & just as easy hit B code , which is a slant 6 for 69 , ! but the vin tag clearly shows 0 for 1970 !!  hmm
perhaps the S is the typo & it should say H or even P but these letters are not even close on a key board !! unless who ever was typing out the broad cast sheets or Vin plates , or what ever is done first , is crap at typing like me ! as i hit the wrong keys all the time  

prolly a V code car & someone hit the wrong letter  

So why is this car "probably" a V Code because someone hit the wrong letter, but the CCR car cannot be a typo, or even the '70 500 Hemi?

yes that could also !
it could   very well be a typo  , but it might not be  

Of course it's a typo error. Chrysler scould have used spell-VIN-check check back then. Hell, even I banged the wrong letter out on the keyboard by mistake.........once.     

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Of course it's a typo error. Chrysler scould have used spell-VIN-check check back then. Hell, even I banged the wrong letter out on the keyboard by mistake.........once.    

Geeze could this be the second time?

[Richard Cranium]

Of course it's a typo error. Chrysler scould have used spell-VIN-check check back then. Hell, even I banged the wrong letter out on the keyboard by mistake.........once.    

Geeze could this be the second time?

Just seeing if anyone was awake!   

[Chad L. Magee]

How would you "theorists" or "enthusiasts" or "experts" diagnose this?

and djcarguy...

Hey look a TYPO!!!! 

damn  slant 6 in an R/T  , see see to beat the insurance    just kidding
prolly a V code car & someone hit the wrong letter 

intresting that these miss stamped cars could have made it through inspections over the years !!
good picture , intresting , thanks for sharing 

prolly a V code car & someone hit the wrong letter  

You mean a typo?/?  

YES     because  C & V are next to each other on the key board ,  but thinking that way , C code is a slant 6 engine code for 1970 & just as easy hit B code , which is a slant 6 for 69 , ! but the vin tag clearly shows 0 for 1970 !!  hmm
perhaps the S is the typo & it should say H or even P but these letters are not even close on a key board !! unless who ever was typing out the broad cast sheets or Vin plates , or what ever is done first , is crap at typing like me ! as i hit the wrong keys all the time  

prolly a V code car & someone hit the wrong letter  

So why is this car "probably" a V Code because someone hit the wrong letter, but the CCR car cannot be a typo, or even the '70 500 Hemi?

yes that could also !
it could   very well be a typo  , but it might not be  

Of course it's a typo error. Chrysler should have used spell-VIN-check check back then. Hell, even I banged the wrong letter out on the keyboard by mistake.........once.     

It would have been nice if it was a factory /6 in a Charger RT platform (instead of just a VIN typo), as I would have given me another 70 Charger model to dream about for my oddball set.  Oh well, I'm still looking for that unique /6 500SE that is out there somewhere....

[ccr-host]

(snip)
I don't see how a 427 Hemi would save insurance money over a 440. (snip)

Like Dan's typo here (I added the red), because I know that after hanging around us Mopar guys for this long now that he is fully aware that the Hemi was 426 cubes and that the 427 thing was a size used by the enemy.

Oh... I get busted for the CI, but not for calling it "unsurance"? ...Wow, tough roon!

[FlatbackFanatic]

 

[doctor4766]

(snip)
I don't see how a 427 Hemi would save insurance money over a 440. (snip)

Like Dan's typo here (I added the red), because I know that after hanging around us Mopar guys for this long now that he is fully aware that the Hemi was 426 cubes and that the 427 thing was a size used by the enemy.

Oh... I get busted for the CI, but not for calling it "unsurance"? ...Wow, tough roon!

Nah, we don't pick on typos....................





















Much

[Ghoste]

One was a typo, the other was a slap in the face. 

[ccr-host]

OK... So typo's aside. In all that fuss over the engine block numbers (I'll have them next week) and the possibility of the VIN being a typo, we did briefly mention the torque boxes. But, no one commented on why the XP has a 68 gas cap or the 68 headllight surrounds. That can't have anything to do with a typo on the tag (which I doubt it is).

[doctor4766]

Well it appears that this car holds some mysterys that are yet to be solved Dan.
Even if it isn't THE brouchure car it's obvious that it was a pre production mongrel of some kind.
It may well have been some sort of experimental car that no one back then would have thought would bring such speculation 40 years later?