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a forum dedicated to the concept challenger.... how queer?

Started by RD, December 14, 2005, 11:47:08 AM

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RD

I was cruising around on google and thought, "hell, let me see if i can find the dodgecharger site."   So i typed in dodge charger forum and the first site that pops up is a 2006 charger forum.   I click on it and started browsing in there and then come across a thread to the concept challenger, which leads me to a forum dedicated to the concept challenger.  

Now I am not saying that it shouldnt be there, just thought the whole idea was kinda premature.   a forum dedicated to the concept challenger, and no, i have not joined.

http://www.challengertalk.com/
67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander

HAZZARDJOHN

it could be worse, I stumbled across a website forum dedicated to the Dodge Omni once :rotz: :sick: :eyes: There is a forum out there for everything!
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't fix your brakes, but don't worry I made your horn louder."

Shakey

Think about how many posts were flyin' around here with regards to the new Charger prior to the launch in May 2005.   Probably had enough content to start a specific message board with all of that also.

Hey RD, don't offend the queers now!   :icon_smile_big:

RD

lol shakey, i didnt mean it in that context *snicker snicker*   :P  :icon_smile_big:
67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander

41husk

I am glad to see the interest, hopefully Daimler will see that ther is a market for the two door rear wheel drive retro car.  I only wish they would have done with the Charger what they have done with the Challenger concept.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

andy74


TeeWJay426

Quote from: 41husk on December 14, 2005, 12:31:19 PM
I am glad to see the interest, hopefully Daimler will see that ther is a market for the two door rear wheel drive retro car.  I only wish they would have done with the Charger what they have done with the Challenger concept.

I'm with ya on this one. Whatever it takes DCX to get it built without f*$%ing it up like they did the Chagnum is fine with me!
74 Charger SE, 400 HP, 4-speed

41husk

1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

70charginglizard

http://www.challengertalk.com/     :lol: :lol: :lol:

If anyone here actually thinks that DC is going to honestly take anyones opinion from any of the classic car sites on the internet to heart in there own designs then you've got to be delusional.

They didn't take anyones opinion here (and dodge-charger.com was one of the most popular sites at the time of the new charger development)

Why would they take the opinions from any of the other newer sites???

DC is going to build this thing the way Mercedes tells um too . Simple as that
70charginglizard

Ponch ®

"I spent most of my money on cars, birds, and booze. The rest I squandered." - George Best

Chrysler Performance West

41husk

Quote from: 70charginglizard on December 14, 2005, 02:20:02 PM
http://www.challengertalk.com/     :lol: :lol: :lol:

If anyone here actually thinks that DC is going to honestly take anyones opinion from any of the classic car sites on the internet to heart in there own designs then you've got to be delusional.

They didn't take anyones opinion here (and dodge-charger.com was one of the most popular sites at the time of the new charger development)

Why would they take the opinions from any of the other newer sites???

DC is going to build this thing the way Mercedes tells um too . Simple as that
or the way the new Mustang sales dictate
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

4402tuff4u

Quote from: TeeWJay426 on December 14, 2005, 01:41:50 PM
Quote from: 41husk on December 14, 2005, 12:31:19 PM
I am glad to see the interest, hopefully Daimler will see that ther is a market for the two door rear wheel drive retro car.   I only wish they would have done with the Charger what they have done with the Challenger concept.

I'm with ya on this one. Whatever it takes DCX to get it built without f*$%ing it up like they did the Chagnum is fine with me!

Did it occur to you that perhaps that is exactly what DCX is doing. Their research & development department most likely came up with the "Challenger forum" idea to test the waters. What better way to find out than to listen to the chatter about the new Challenger concept. "hmmm,  how can we find out what will really sell out there? What is that they are exactly looking for?   :scope: :scratchchin:
"Mother should I trust the government?........... Pink Floyd "Mother"

TK73

HEY, weren't you gearheads LISTNENING; there is no market for a 2-door RWD car.


"'05 Mustang roars to 47 percent sales gain"

Sales of the Mustang are up 47 percent through the end of May over what they were last year before the redesign. The redesigned car is selling better than Chrysler's popular 300 sedan. It also is outselling 13 brands, including Scion, Saturn, Mercedes-Benz and Subaru.

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0506/27/0auto-229229.htm

=====================================================

FORD TO INCREASE MUSTANG PRODUCTION TO MEET RUNAWAY CONSUMER DEMAND

Ford today announced that it will take production of the hot new
Mustang to more than 192,000 units in 2005 â€" an increase of more than
70 percent, or 80,000 units, from the previous year.

http://www.carmemories.com/cgi-bin/viewexperience.cgi?experience_id=957

======================================================

If you come, they will build it.

But thanks to a fervently faithful crowd of Mustang owners of which Ford was previously unaware, the past unraveled along a different timeline. Deep passions fueled a very vocal, angry campaign to stop the blasphemy before it could begin. It worked: Mazda's creation instead came to life (and death) under the name of Ford Probe, and even if the 1979-engineered Mustang lived on with the same skeleton for many years, at least it lived.

http://www.automotive.com/2005/12/ford/mustang/reviews/
1973 Charger : 440cid - 727 - 8.75/3.55


Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical,
      a liberal, oh fanatical, criminal.
Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're
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TK73

That Charger forum is set up by a "...UK based new media company specialising in developing low-cost, high-performance web applications."  Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.   http://www.vbulletin.com/about.php

Looks like DCX set that one up.  Take a look around the forum...
1973 Charger : 440cid - 727 - 8.75/3.55


Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical,
      a liberal, oh fanatical, criminal.
Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're
      acceptable, respectable, oh presentable, a vegetable!

Charger_Fan


The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

TeeWJay426

Quote from: 41husk on December 14, 2005, 02:32:11 PM
or the way the new Mustang sales dictate

THAT'S probably what's really behind it.... after telling us how '2 doors don't sell' and having to eat those words along with a healthy dose of crow while the Mustang singlehandedly is keeping Phurd afloat, Creed finally got his head out of his ar$e and perhaps had a twinge of doubt.... and gave us the Challenger tease to test the waters! Like I said previously, who cares HOW this thing goes about getting built properly.... just as long as it DOES!!!!
74 Charger SE, 400 HP, 4-speed

Orange_Crush

Quote from: TeeWJay426 on December 14, 2005, 03:06:36 PM
Quote from: 41husk on December 14, 2005, 02:32:11 PM
or the way the new Mustang sales dictate

THAT'S probably what's really behind it.... after telling us how '2 doors don't sell' and having to eat those words along with a healthy dose of crow while the Mustang singlehandedly is keeping Phurd afloat, Creed finally got his head out of his ar$e and perhaps had a twinge of doubt.... and gave us the Challenger tease to test the waters! Like I said previously, who cares HOW this thing goes about getting built properly.... just as long as it DOES!!!!

Once again...don't flatter yourselves.

It takes about a year to get a car from drawing board to concept.  It's been less then a year since drawings of the Charger were released and WAY less than a year since the Charger started full production.  This car's been around for a good deal longer than that.

This car was planned for a good deal of time BEFORE the Charger was introed.

I ain't got time for pain, the only pain I got time for is the pain i put on fools how don't know what time it is.

TK73

Interesting how that is developing.  Set up public forums about your product to promote it and people will fall in line to discuss the product and you get feedback.  Set up another forum about a POTENTIAL product to see how the potential customer will recieve it.


DCX should have gotten thier heads out of thier asses years ago and built a 2-door RWD retro-styled car before the market goes away.  Dumb asses.

OH, for the record, I do like the look of the Chagnum.  They should have built a F***ing Charger.
1973 Charger : 440cid - 727 - 8.75/3.55


Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical,
      a liberal, oh fanatical, criminal.
Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're
      acceptable, respectable, oh presentable, a vegetable!

TK73

Quote from: Orange_Crush on December 14, 2005, 03:10:12 PM

Once again...don't flatter yourselves.

It takes about a year to get a car from drawing board to concept.  It's been less then a year since drawings of the Charger were released and WAY less than a year since the Charger started full production.  This car's been around for a good deal longer than that.

This car was planned for a good deal of time BEFORE the Charger was introed.


Possibly, how long do you think it takes for a design team to look at photos of a Challenger and turn those into a concept drawing.  I'd guess about 30 minutes...
1973 Charger : 440cid - 727 - 8.75/3.55


Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical,
      a liberal, oh fanatical, criminal.
Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're
      acceptable, respectable, oh presentable, a vegetable!

TK73

hmmmm, looking at the "spy photos", how long do you think it would take to modify an existing Challenger into the 'concept' we see in the pics?
1973 Charger : 440cid - 727 - 8.75/3.55


Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical,
      a liberal, oh fanatical, criminal.
Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're
      acceptable, respectable, oh presentable, a vegetable!

Ponch ®

my only problem with the retro cars is that from a design standpoint, where do they go from there? Whats the next Mustang gonna look like? A modern version of this?:




I do like the new Chally, though in my humble opinion the lines need to be refined a little more.
"I spent most of my money on cars, birds, and booze. The rest I squandered." - George Best

Chrysler Performance West

Orange_Crush

Quote from: TK73 on December 14, 2005, 03:14:11 PM
Quote from: Orange_Crush on December 14, 2005, 03:10:12 PM

Once again...don't flatter yourselves.

It takes about a year to get a car from drawing board to concept.   It's been less then a year since drawings of the Charger were released and WAY less than a year since the Charger started full production.   This car's been around for a good deal longer than that.

This car was planned for a good deal of time BEFORE the Charger was introed.


Possibly, how long do you think it takes for a design team to look at photos of a Challenger and turn those into a concept drawing.   I'd guess about 30 minutes...

TK, you're smarter than that.   You know it aint even CLOSE to that easy.

Here's an example.

The Challenger rides on a modded version of the LX platform (116" VS 120" wheelbase).   That ALONE takes up a fair amount of time and money.   Then, if the car is definitely going to be produced, you have to do a feasibility study AND figure out if the damn thing will even meet safety standards.   Couple this with having to hand-form all body panels, interior, shorten drivetrain, etc, and you've got yourself one hell of a time consuming project.

Personally, I think DCX is making a HUGE mistake building a retro-styled car.   Its nice now, but what happens in three years when everybody's got one and the "retro-mystique" wears off.   Think it can't happen?   Ford's not building T-birds anymore.   PT Cruiser sales are flat and not going anywhere, new beetle sales are doing the same thing...and no one can seem to figure out how to restyle the damned things.   Once you go retro, you're locked in to retro.

Remember, there was no '75 Challenger and the '76 was a Fwd Mitsubishi.
I ain't got time for pain, the only pain I got time for is the pain i put on fools how don't know what time it is.

TK73

Quote from: Orange_Crush on December 14, 2005, 03:22:10 PM

Personally, I think DCX is making a HUGE mistake building a retro-styled car.  Its nice now, but what happens in three years when everybody's got one and the "retro-mystique" wears off. 


Yes.


1973 Charger : 440cid - 727 - 8.75/3.55


Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical,
      a liberal, oh fanatical, criminal.
Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're
      acceptable, respectable, oh presentable, a vegetable!

Old Moparz

Quote from: Ponch on December 14, 2005, 03:21:52 PM
my only problem with the retro cars is that from a design standpoint, where do they go from there? Whats the next Mustang gonna look like? A modern version of this?:




I do like the new Chally, though in my humble opinion the lines need to be refined a little more.


Hey Poncho, that's a hot car. Don't forget Farrah Fawcett drove it on Charlie's Angels & it was good enough to make a toy too. BTW, how'd you like to check out the driver's upholstry in that Stang?  :D
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TK73

     Re: New Chally on the cover of mph
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2005, 12:56:28 PM  »

Quote from: TK73 on December 01, 2005, 12:56:28 PM
It'll never be made...
1973 Charger : 440cid - 727 - 8.75/3.55


Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical,
      a liberal, oh fanatical, criminal.
Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're
      acceptable, respectable, oh presentable, a vegetable!