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Arrgh! rearend has to come out AGAIN...it did & its BROKE--under warranty!

Started by Just 6T9 CHGR, May 07, 2010, 04:21:45 PM

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Just 6T9 CHGR

Last season I bought & put in a repro clutch type Sure-Grip that I bought off Dr. Diff.
Late in the season I was noticing a "popping" sound coming from the rear on slow turns etc.

Starting out this season the noise has gotten progressively worse & louder to the point that the "pop" actually shakes the whole car & drive train.  Contacted Cass (Dr. Diff) & he thinks its a lubrication problem where small metal flakes in the oil stick to the clutch plates causing them to stick together.
Suggested taking out the rear, cleaning out the housing, use 85-140 GL-5 gear oil with a bottle of the GM additive which he says is the most potent stuff out there now.
More work to do before E-Town in a week.... :rotz:
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


694spdRT

Sorry to hear that.  :rotz:

Did Dr. Diff say this was a common problem? Hope that is all it is.
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

tan top

oh no !! sorry to hear that Chris !!  hate axle oil smell  :icon_smile_blackeye:
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c00nhunterjoe

is it dragging the tires then popping or is it more of just a popping by itself? only 2 things i can think of that cause that is the clutches as stated or the spider gears torn up

Just 6T9 CHGR

Ruh roh....NOT what I wanted to see.
Bought the unit in 9/09 & put a max of 250 miles on it.   Emailed Dr. Diff to see what recourse I have from him.
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


Charger-Bodie

68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

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RD

holy crap.. 250 miles and that happened? you ever think of driving it more? :D
67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander

ZSmithersCharges

Some super glue aughta fix that no problem

Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: 1HotDaytona on May 07, 2010, 07:46:23 PM
Not Cool.  :rotz:
Not cooler is the fact that next weekend is the Mopar Atlantic Nats :rotz:

Luckily I still have a friends "spare" 3.23 SG rear that's a 741 case with the small u-joint.....luckily I have a spare small joint drive shaft as well.  Ill slap that in temporarily till I get mine squared away
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


bill440rt

Aw, dude....  :rotz:
That sucks beyond all comprehension. Puh-leeze tell me he will warranty his work. 250 miles and that happens?? Really???  :o     You don't beat the crap out of your car, it is babied. That never should have happened.
I feel for you, man.
:popcrn:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

bill440rt

Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 07, 2010, 08:27:48 PM
Quote from: 1HotDaytona on May 07, 2010, 07:46:23 PM
Not Cool.  :rotz:
Not cooler is the fact that next weekend is the Mopar Atlantic Nats :rotz:

Luckily I still have a friends "spare" 3.23 SG rear that's a 741 case with the small u-joint.....luckily I have a spare small joint drive shaft as well.  Ill slap that in temporarily till I get mine squared away


Oooh! You posted that while I was typing my reply.
A quick fix! GREAT news already!
But, still keep me posted on the Doc.  :2thumbs:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

RJS

Aren't these old cars fun?!!!!!!!! :brickwall:  That bites :eek2:, hope everything else is still in good shape :pity:.

694spdRT

1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

tan top

Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 07, 2010, 07:43:20 PM
Ruh roh....NOT what I wanted to see.
Bought the unit in 9/09 & put a max of 250 miles on it.   Emailed Dr. Diff to see what recourse I have from him.


oh no  not good ! only 250 miles !!   :icon_smile_blackeye:  another guy on here kept having diff problems  after only a few miles , forget now who it was
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firefighter3931

Chris, was that a brand new ring & pinion ? Definately a defective part if it was  :P

Sorry about that buddy  :pity:


Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

resq302

Ron and Chris,

From the looks of it, those appear to be the teeth of the spider gears.  That really sucks man.  I know how you feel about having bad luck right before shows.  Ive been there and scrambled trying to get parts.  Twice in the same year, the day before a show I had my water pump crap out and the following show, had the alternator crap out.  I feel your pain man.  Luckily you had a "spare". :2thumbs:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

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Quote from: tan top on May 07, 2010, 04:37:30 PM
oh no !! sorry to hear that Chris !!  hate axle oil smell  :icon_smile_blackeye:
We call that skunk juice around here.

Musicman

Bad... Not Good :o

Sorry brother... I hope Dr Diff helps you out here :scratchchin:
I guess we'll wait and see :popcrn:

Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: firefighter3931 on May 08, 2010, 06:31:14 AM
Chris, was that a brand new ring & pinion ? Definately a defective part if it was  :P

Sorry about that buddy  :pity:


Ron
no just the SG was new......no damage to the R & P
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


472 R/T SE




I had Wildcat Dennis build my power lock pumpkin.  I only run it for one season & whenever I turned corners the rear tires would start chirping. 

I had another guy take it apart to check it out & he said it was put together dry, so the lubrication theory was sorta right with mine.  The housing gets filled with the oil so I don't know how/why putting it together dry mattered.

Sucks for you, hope you get it all dialed in for your upcoming shows.  It's one thing to miss the show but you're sportin' a whole new look & I'm sure you're amped to show it off.   :2thumbs:

firefighter3931

Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 08, 2010, 11:01:42 AM
Quote from: firefighter3931 on May 08, 2010, 06:31:14 AM
Chris, was that a brand new ring & pinion ? Definately a defective part if it was  :P

Sorry about that buddy  :pity:


Ron
no just the SG was new......no damage to the R & P

Dang....busted SG unit ? Don't see that very often  :P

I should have looked closer at the pic....saw the broken teeth and assumed the busted teeth were from the ring gear.  :-\

Let us know how it turns out


Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

mikepmcs

Sorry bout that Chris.  I was about to get in my car and drive you one down there til I read you had a spare.  I have one for Frank(FLG) that I have to give him still and have another as well.  Both 3.23 SG but cone though.

I needed an excuse to drive to NYC.  :2thumbs: 
Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: mikepmcs on May 09, 2010, 08:02:22 AM
Sorry bout that Chris.  I was about to get in my car and drive you one down there til I read you had a spare.  I have one for Frank(FLG) that I have to give him still and have another as well.  Both 3.23 SG but cone though.

I needed an excuse to drive to NYC.  :2thumbs:  
Ha thanks Mike!   You can still come because now I need 2 of the c-clips that go on the u-joint cups at the rear yoke side....dont know where they went  :scope:
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: firefighter3931 on May 09, 2010, 06:59:19 AM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 08, 2010, 11:01:42 AM
Quote from: firefighter3931 on May 08, 2010, 06:31:14 AM
Chris, was that a brand new ring & pinion ? Definately a defective part if it was  :P

Sorry about that buddy  :pity:


Ron
no just the SG was new......no damage to the R & P

Dang....busted SG unit ? Don't see that very often  :P

I should have looked closer at the pic....saw the broken teeth and assumed the busted teeth were from the ring gear.  :-\

Let us know how it turns out


Ron

Ron, it was one of those aftermarket units....made by Nitro Gear I believe.   Hopefully Cass can do something for me....if not 3.54 Dana here I come!  ;)
Chris' '69 Charger R/T