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Look what I found under the vinyl!

Started by brianosaurus, December 03, 2005, 12:29:21 AM

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brianosaurus

I've finally had enough of "fixing" the electrical system  :icon_smile_approve:, but only long enough for it to burn to the next bad ground.  :flame:

My wife is tired of the house smelling like gas for a few... several hours after I get back from a drive... and the CO detector going off "for no reason."  ::)

I'm ready to not drive it for a while  :'( and put in the time, money, and effort to make it what I want and outperform that little German thing next to it.

To kick it off last night I pulled the vinyl off the top, to see how bad the rust bubbles really were, and found the General Lee paintjob.  The layer of orange visible through the chips in the paint and the Dixie horn should have tipped me off, but you should have seen the grin on my face when I peeled back the vinyl to reveal "AL LEE".

The good news is that on the passenger side, the rust is just on the surface.  Most of the bubbly part pulled off with the vinyl.  On the passenger side, I could scrape with my fingernail to expose bare metal.  The rusty-looking stuff on the top is the glue remnants, and perhaps superficial rust, but the paint still looks clean (aside from the adhesive), except where it has flaked off to expose clean bare metal.

The bad news is on the drivers side.  There's a few small holes, but its pretty localized and will probably just need a small patch, rather than a whole new quarter.  Not so bad, but until I start cleaning it up with something other than my "built-in tools" I won't know for sure.  Other than the rusted trunk floor (which I expect to be able to take care of with a wire brush and POR-15), the rust under the vinyl was the worst looking part on the car.

Now its time to pull the rest apart, and rebuild it.  This is going to be fun.


Oh yeah... In case anyone is curious... originally a 318 car, it currently has a 383, 4bbl Carter 600cfm (pretty sure), 727, 8-1/4 4.10 with auburn gear (replaced the 2.71s at the end of summer to have some fun before I took it down for a while).  no idea what cam, etc, is inside the motor, but after it bogs off the line it pulls really hard.  Polygraphite front suspension.  XHD rear springs.  245x65R15 up front and some mostly bald 275x65R15 out back.. uhhh... "rare" (not in any good way) bendix 4-piston discs up front, stock drums in back.

As for my plans, I want a fast, fun daily driver.  I'll take it to the drag strip every once in a while, but I'm not going to try to out drag all of my mechanic buddy's friends.  Some, but not all.  I'm sort of reluctantly thinking about sticking with the 383, but I want a 440, so I should probably just save the grief and get a 440, huh?

After driving more or less the 2 extremes of streetable gears, I need to do something with the transmission.  I'll probably take a step or two down from the 4.10s and add an overdrive.  With a little (heh) more power from a properly tuned 383, or better yet a 440, 3.73s would probably be just as fun around town as the 4.10s are now, without having to run 4000RPM on the highway.

I want to add a roll cage and subframe connectors.  After reading the recent thread about it, I want that stiffness.  After rebuilding the front end with poly bushings and a big fat sway bar last year, I've been amazed with the drivability of this car.  But I know all that force that used to go into body roll is going somewhere in the body, and probably not somewhere good.

My rear tires are a tad too big (diameter) for the wheelwells.  The passenger side is particularly close, and more than a few times when I've hit a bump the tire has grabbed the trim.  I want to go with 17" wheels, and a slightly smaller diameter tires, but keep the same widths.

On the outside, I'm thinking dark.  Like black.  Does black look good on a Charger?    ;)

bull

That's hilarious. Now you have to polish it up and leave it, right?

Wakko

That's pretty neat.  If you're going to redo the entire motor anyway, other than buying the core engine it won't cost you more to do the 440, so I'd do that.  You can get some power out of the 383, but there's no substitute for cubes.  :) 
Ian

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694spdRT

Any chance Warner Bros. might be a prior owner?   :scratchchin: :D
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
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BigBlockSam

QuoteAny chance Warner Bros. might be a prior owner   
:iagree:

thats pretty funny
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brianosaurus

Quote from: 694spdRT on December 03, 2005, 10:47:17 AM
Any chance Warner Bros. might be a prior owner?   :scratchchin: :D

Perhaps, but I doubt it.  I bought it from a guy outside Modesto, CA.  I didn't get much history from him, but someone before him had converted it to an RT clone (or at least put the R/T badges and the stripe around the butt).  It had a 1969 Cali plate (black and yellow) until I moved to Oregon, so it could easily have been in LA at some point.

The body and frame are in good shape, so it probably didn't jump any creeks.  The paintjob is pretty cheap-looking, which very well could have come from the studio's GL shop, but the flag and letters are painted on with the white traced by hand (and not by the skilled hand of an experienced pinstriper)... I thought they used decals for the TV cars?  Gonna have to dig out the article from last year.

It has the screw mount for a CB antenna on the rear deck, but no CB wiring.  Its possible the wiring has been removed, but based on what I've seen poking around in this car, no one ever removed any wires... they just added more.  So seems like the CB antenna was just cosmetic.

And it has a Dixie horn.  No reason for WB to install a Dixie horn, unless the car was for public appearances, and the paintjob wasn't for any corporate sponsored appearances.  Granted, the horn could have easily been added by a later owner.

Inconclusive data...

cudaken

 Quick, get a new top on it ;D

                             Cuda Ken
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miamivice

Quote from: 694spdRT on December 03, 2005, 10:47:17 AM
Any chance Warner Bros. might be a prior owner?     :scratchchin: :D

unlikely, the flag is a bit smaller than it should be ^-^

BB1

Could be a very early clone, possible 80ds version before they made all the decals for them.  ;D
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73rallye440magnum

thats pretty cool, good luck with the project!
WTB- 68 or 69 project

Past- '73 Rallye U code, '69 Coronet 500 vert, '68 Roadrunner clone, XP29H8, XP29G8, XH29G0

golden73

Looks like a classic chip foose 2 tone paint job  :D

73ChargerSE

Well there's somethin' you don't see every day  :icon_smile_big:

Spartan

Over?! its not over until we say it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!...Hell no! and its not over now!..(Germans? Pearl Harbor?...shut up, he's on a roll)

AirborneSilva

Quote from: cudaken on December 03, 2005, 06:33:43 PM
Quick, get a new top on it ;D

                                           Cuda Ken

I'm with you Ken, cover that thing up as fast as you can  ;)

mopar0166

I actually like the white with the Dixie top  :cheers:

polywideblock

wow talk about resurrection   :icon_smile_big:   just  like" time team "


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blast from the past  , I remember that !! some reason thought it was on the old site though  :slap:
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Patronus

HA! That is funny.
Put some orange steelies on there and your done.  :icon_smile_big:
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