A Sentimental Whats It Worth 1969 Super Bee **** UPDATED NEWS

[chargerboy69]

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I recently learned that the 1969 Super Bee I had in high school is back on the market. A few months ago I was told where to find the car, and that the owner was putting the car up for sale. I contacted the owner to verify that is was my old car, and sure enough it was. I was quite surprised when I saw the car. The car is completely dis-assembled. The car sits on four homemade stands with wheels as the suspension is totally apart. Most of the pieces are there, but nonetheless the car is completely apart. The car is a 383 4spd. car with A/C and the air-grabber hood. Originally a green on green car. When I sold the car my senior year in high school in 1992 the car was all original. Numbers matching 383 with the 4 spd. Even the Dana was still in the car. Since then, the 383 was pulled, the Dana is long gone and the original hood is gone and now replaced with a repo six pack hood. The car does need some minor rust repair in the rear on one side, however it is very minor. The fenders, doors, trunk lid are all mint. The care does come with a 400 and 440, both needing rebuilt and a freshly rebuilt hemi 4 spd. The current owner believes this car is the only one like it in the world and was asking $6800.00 for the car. I lowballed the crap out of him and he threw a fit. He is now down to $5800.00 and still can not move the car.  To be honest the guy is kind of a jerk. I still do not feel the car is worth it in this market. Am I wrong? What is getting me is the sentimental value of this car. I had a lot of great memories in this car. I have quite a lot of video of my dad and myself with the car working on it. My dad passed away a couple years ago, so it sure would be nice to get this one back. This is a very large project, and something I would never consider with any other car, except this one.

[rustafarian]

$3000

[tan top]

go get it !! its like finding a needle in a haystack !!  you will regret it if you dont  get you ole ride back  

[moparstuart]

4k tops all apart

[lisiecki1]

4k tops all apart

I agree.....

Sounds like he's trying to bone you because of the sentimental value.

[PocketThunder]

go get it !! its like finding a needle in a haystack !!  you will regret it if you dont  get you ole ride back  

Ya bring $5000 cash with you and a trailer.   

[chargerboy69]

go get it !! its like finding a needle in a haystack !!  you will regret it if you dont  get you ole ride back  

You are exactly right.  This is a once in a lifetime opportunity.


The guy who owns the car has only had it for ten months.  A good friend of mine who works with this guy knows he paid $3500.00 for the car this past February.  He is a Chevy guy that bought it thinking it would be a fairly easy job, then learned how expensive it is to restore old Mopars (no s@!t).  Now he is trying to make a couple grand for his trouble.  Which, I don't have a problem with.  I just have a hard time paying almost $6000.00 for a basket case car.

4k tops all apart

I agree.....

Sounds like he's trying to bone you because of the sentimental value.

I think so too.

$3000

I hit him at $2500.00 a couple months ago and he told me to quit wasting his time and not bother him with my BS offers.

[BrianShaughnessy]

  Story sounds strangely familiar 

       Good luck whatever happens.

[69bronzeT5]

There was a T5 '69 383 4sp Superbee project here that needed new interior and everything. It was pretty much a rolling chassis in primer that had most of the body work done but needed a few other little pieces of work done. It had the engine and tranny but I think they were just painted and not rebuilt. I believe it sold for $10,000.

[Ghoste]

I don't think you will regret paying a premium for the sentimental value of the car but you are the only one who can determine that.  From the sound of it, I think you know what the car is worth without the personal attachment.  Anyhting above that really comes down to you.
I had a similar opportunity a few years back and I was prepared to pay a big premium for my old car but when I saw it, it was just too far gone even for sentimental value.  It was a 3000 dollar parts car at best and he wanted 10X that amount.  I was prepared to pay 5X that amount at the time and I don't think I would have had any personal regrets but I can also tell you that I don't have any regrets about not getting it either.  I did for awhile but over time instead of thinking about all the great times I had in the car 25 years ago, I think about the rusty beat up pile of crap that I saw in his driveway that summer day.

[kidsixpack]

Did he purchase the car while it was still together?    If so he would be lucky to break even after disassembly.  The car sounds like a decent car, but it would not have had both the Ramcharger hood and factory air conditioning.  You will need to decode the car to see which is correct.  Most likely it is afactory air car which wouldn't have a Dana either from the factory.  I agree that if it is solid and you really want it back you need to take cash over.  If he really paid 3500 he should be open to any profit in this economy. A green car in a tough market completely disassembled without #'s drivetrain will be a tough sell.  I'd start at $4,000 cash in hand and let him wait before upping your offer.   
KID

[chargerboy69]

Did he purchase the car while it was still together?    If so he would be lucky to break even after disassembly.  The car sounds like a decent car, but it would not have had both the Ramcharger hood and factory air conditioning.  You will need to decode the car to see which is correct.  Most likely it is afactory air car which wouldn't have a Dana either from the factory.  I agree that if it is solid and you really want it back you need to take cash over.  If he really paid 3500 he should be open to any profit in this economy. A green car in a tough market completely disassembled without #'s drivetrain will be a tough sell.  I'd start at $4,000 cash in hand and let him wait before upping your offer.  
KID

No, he bought the car dis-assembled.  It is a factory air car.  It did not originally come with the Ramcharger hood.  But when I had it, it had a perfect and complete Ramcharger hood.  It had a bulge hood from the factory.  It did, and still does have the original side scoops.  It did have a Dana with a 4spd. when I had it.  It was an original 4 spd. car.  I do know here the Dana is. As he said he does have the parts, but I have to believe not everything can be there.  I would not know where to begin.  

Here is the car as she sits.  Sure shes worth $4000.00?

[kidsixpack]

If a car is a complete project I would rather buy it disassembled!  That way you see exactly what you have to deal with.  The only problem is inventorying the parts.  Especially if your not 100% familiar with  that particular model.  I think it's worth a try! Good luck!
KID

[chargerboy69]

Especially if your not 100% familiar with  that particular model. 

And I am not.  The good thing is she is very similar to my Chargers as far as chassis, electrical and dash.  We will see what happens.

[greenpigs]

Whats a couple k more when it stirs happy thoughts of your dad? If you can bring 5 k cash try that.

[jaak]

Whats a couple k more when it stirs happy thoughts of your dad? If you can bring 5 k cash try that.

Thats what I was thinking. If it was just another project...no way I could drop 6k on it. Knowing it was my old car, and it brought back great memories with my old man....I'd pay him what he wants and get it back. I'm certain if you let it get away, you will always regret it. I will also say, the owner of the car is pretty sorry, I couldn't do anyone that way.

Jason

[maxwellwedge]

Give him 4k and make him wash your daily driver! 

If you have a lot of attachment to the beast -  GO GET IT!

Don't fret on the Dana though - no 383 car ever came with one. If it is a real 4 speed with air I would be surprised as I have only ever seen a very small handful of Mopars with that combo. Is there a build sheet or original fender tag?

[Aero426]

You may not get another opportunity.   Even if you pay close to the number you've got him down to, that's small potatoes when the car is in your hands even less of an issue when it is done.    In a situation like this, it ain't always about the money.   

[68charger383]

Since the guy is a chevy (dick) guy.

I would have someone act as a strawman and go by and chew him down worse than you did and offer him $3,500. This will reconfirm that the car is only worth $3,500, heck that's what he paid for it.

Then you show up the next day with $5,000 and make the deal. 

As noted, don't put a price on a memory. However, just remember that nothing ever lives up to its memory.

[Ghoste]

That's a very good suggestion. 

[stripedelete]

Since the guy is a chevy (dick) guy.

I would have someone act as a strawman and go by and chew him down worse than you did and offer him $3,500. This will reconfirm that the car is only worth $3,500, heck that's what he paid for it.

Then you show up the next day with $5,000 and make the deal. 

As noted, don't put a price on a memory. However, just remember that nothing ever lives up to its memory.

Send a couple.  Even if it doesn't get him to reality, it will soften up the beaches.

[G-man]

You never should have sold it.

Let bygones be bygones. 

[chargerboy69]

Since the guy is a chevy (dick) guy.

I would have someone act as a strawman and go by and chew him down worse than you did and offer him $3,500. This will reconfirm that the car is only worth $3,500, heck that's what he paid for it.

Then you show up the next day with $5,000 and make the deal. 

As noted, don't put a price on a memory. However, just remember that nothing ever lives up to its memory.

I had several friends call him a couple months ago and lowball him.  I feel that is why he took the car off the market, because he could not get what he wanted.


I have spoken with a good friend of mine and he is going to try and buy the car for me, as I am sure the owner is still not happy with me.  I have a price in mind, and if I can not get the car for that I am going to walk.  After seeing the car, it is not the car I remember.  Now, I just see a big pile of work and cash going out the door.  We will see what happens.

[rav440]

 

[Mr Bigblock]

Go pay him the coin and its yours, just think twenty years down the road,your going to kick yourself in the nuts for letting it get away for a extra $1000. Which in 20 years $1000 will be like $50