Who knows of this black 1 of 3 '69 500's?

[ramit]

I thought there was an article recently in mopar collectores guide about the color of the reflector frame.   I thought it said that they all came the color of the stripe.    I could be wrong though.

[Ghoste]

There was.  It was in Galen Guruvier's column.  He's been wrong before. 

[Spartan]

Very sharp looking 500

[Arthu®]

It was in Galen Guruvier's column.   He's been wrong before.  

Now how can you say that 

[69_500]

I know that the marker light is stripe color on the Black car on Ebay. However that car has had a repaint, and it was done years ago when people didn't tend to pay attention to many details. However I know that there are 3 Survivor 500's that I"ve seen over the years, and 2 of them are body color, where as the other one is stripe color.
Highbank was your cars body color or stripe color? Or wait a minute wasn't your car shipped with part of the stripe missing?
I believe that the 500 in West Virginia with the plates reading NO WING is a 440 car. It is an automatic, red interior, with A/C car. Used to be here in Indiana, until 1984 I think is when the current owner got the car. Of the 3 500's that I've seen in Black 2 are HEMI's and 1 is a 440 car. However I also have a picture of another BLACK HEMI 500 and the photo was taken in 1972. The car was drag raced, and at the time of the picture still wearing its origional paint, but the origional motor had long since blown up. My dad passed on buying the car then, as it was without a motor. It was Black, with black interior, and a white stripe, 4 speed car. No idea where that one is today.

[69_500]

Troy, you asked about the XS and XX on the paperwork. The only paperwork I saw with an XS on it was the title, and application to the title. Is that what you were refering to as fishy? A lot of 500's and Daytona's had XS on the titles for some reason. I think it was due to an insurance premium companies placed on the 500's and the Daytona's over say a Charger R/T. Even though both had the HEMI's a HEMI 500 had a higher premium than a HEMI R/T. So if you titled it as XS the insurance company took it as being a Charger R/T. Lower cost.

[Highbanked Hauler]

  69-500, mine was definatly the body color and the decklid stripe was missing.At the speed they had to put the cars out the door it could have been any reason.I just wish I had pictures of it at the time.

[Highbanked Hauler]

 The ones stamped XS were the early cars as they were RT's first.The  S on my cars engine and transmission has been stamped over with an  X. The fender tag says XS29 and the VIN tag is XX29.

[Brock Samson]

 the first pic got side stainless (the ribbed kind?) and a pass mirror.. that's really really coo but where is that stuff on the next pics?.. 

[Troy]

Troy, you asked about the XS and XX on the paperwork. The only paperwork I saw with an XS on it was the title, and application to the title. Is that what you were refering to as fishy? A lot of 500's and Daytona's had XS on the titles for some reason. I think it was due to an insurance premium companies placed on the 500's and the Daytona's over say a Charger R/T. Even though both had the HEMI's a HEMI 500 had a higher premium than a HEMI R/T. So if you titled it as XS the insurance company took it as being a Charger R/T. Lower cost.

I just said it was inconsistent and that I was curious. I think those were the only places I saw it. I know that some of the VINs didn't match the fender tag but I wasn't sure if this one matched but only had paperwork that didn't.

Troy

[charge69]

Don't really know if the 500's were different from the R/T's when it came to side marker color , but my R/T is stripe color and I know it is original. R6 Red with white stripe.

[zstalker]

noteice in this pic how the seller was so careful to block out "earl's" last name, but in the sentence right after that, he told the last name.   way to go.....
reminded me of when Priciple Skinner said "we have a student remaining anonymous, we'll call her L. Simpson. no, they might figure that one out...I'll call her Lisa S."

[hemigeno]

Troy, you asked about the XS and XX on the paperwork. The only paperwork I saw with an XS on it was the title, and application to the title. Is that what you were refering to as fishy? A lot of 500's and Daytona's had XS on the titles for some reason. I think it was due to an insurance premium companies placed on the 500's and the Daytona's over say a Charger R/T. Even though both had the HEMI's a HEMI 500 had a higher premium than a HEMI R/T. So if you titled it as XS the insurance company took it as being a Charger R/T. Lower cost.

I just said it was inconsistent and that I was curious. I think those were the only places I saw it. I know that some of the VINs didn't match the fender tag but I wasn't sure if this one matched but only had paperwork that didn't.

Troy

One possible explanation for why the titles came out with XS on them rather than XX is that perhaps Chrysler never told the State DMV's what an XX meant, or that it even existed.  I have a printout of a bunch of original Missouri title registration information from 68-73.  Each 500 or Daytona titled in Missouri during that time had an XS title VIN.  More than likely, some keypunch operator at the DMV hadn't a clue what XX meant, and probably thought it was a typo - and "corrected" them all.   

[hemigeno]

Don't really know if the 500's were different from the R/T's when it came to side marker color , but my R/T is stripe color and I know it is original. R6 Red with white stripe.

The retainers were supposed to be stripe color, but the Daytona's and 500's were all stripe-delete cars, which meant that the retainer frame would have been originally painted body color.  Creative Industries was SUPPOSED to make sure the retainers all match the stripe color, meaning that some of them had to be repainted.  Retainers from Black and R4 Red cars could be re-used with a car using the respective stripe colors, since those two paint colors matched the corresponding stripe colors.  All of the other colors had to be painted to match.

Danny, you've done more research on this than anybody, have you ever come across an original-paint Daytona with non-matching retainer colors?

[69_500]

Never came accross a single Daytona that had the marker lights the body color. The only one that I'd say is close is Jim's Daytona. The Survivor green car, with a black stripe. clearly has red paint on the marker. However it is painted black over the red. So I"m assuming it was just a red one they picked up and painted black to put on the car due to it having a black stripe. But no Gene I haven't ever seen any Daytona's messed up. I have seen several of the 500's that way though. I know that Highbank told me at Carlisle his car had them body color the day he got it. I have talked to other origional owners that say the same thing. Then I've also seen Survivor 500's that have them stripe color. Seems they screwed them up quite often. Then again who was going to know they messed them up back then?

[hemigeno]

My Daytona has one marker that has B5 blue paint showing through the black that was painted over it.  Same deal, they just grabbed whatever color retainer was handy, repainted it, and slapped it on.

[69_500]

The again looks like somebody slapped a B5 blue hood on your car too.





Sorry had to say it

[Blakcharger440]

There is the unrestored real low mileage black '69 500 with the red interior also. I think the original owner was nicknamed "Speedy" and he used to own a dealership before he passed away. The car was featured in a magazine a few years back and was also in the survivor class at the Mopar Nationals.  

Yep I remember reading that article and that car it was super nice!

[hemigeno]

The again looks like somebody slapped a B5 blue hood on your car too.

There's one in every crowd...   


At least I took the T5 doors off of it, and put the original doors back on!  The original hood was toast (literally), and long-gone though.

[69_500]

Ah now why would you take of some bronze doors. I mean that would have a been a totally rare car. Definately a 1 of 1, with the 4 tone paint job. B5, R4, T5, and the X9 stripe. What a combo.

Anyways, yeah he HEMI 500 that was the 4 speed, that was sold by Speedy was a very nice car. I don't know if that car has ever been restored or not.