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Started by dodgecharger72, October 02, 2009, 09:45:04 AM

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dodgecharger72

I am looking for an aftermarket transmission for my 360 '72. I was originally considering TCI but after reading through these forums I discovered some people had bad experiences with them. What do you guys suggest?

dodgecharger72

I forgot to mention that I have a 904 in right now so I am looking for a 727

RECHRGD

I think the TCI problems were in past years.  But, another option is Cope Racing Transmissions (CRT).  I've got one-----no problems.  :2thumbs:  Bob
13.53 @ 105.32

dodgecharger72

Cope Transmissions are a little bot more expensive that TCI. Is the price worth it? Which cope tranny do you have in your car?

69chargerR/T

I have a TCI streetfighter trans in my car. I've had it for 6 years and its been great, I love it.  :2thumbs:

dodgecharger72

Yeah I've been lookin at the streetfighters for a while. What kind of performance gains am i looking at with this switch?

Musicman


dodgecharger72

is that the tranny you use music man?

Musicman

That's the one that I had planned to use with the new 6-Pack build yes... I'm waiting for the dyno numbers before making any final decisions of course, but the current plan is to use one of their 727 Shortie's with the GV unit attached. :2thumbs:

dodgecharger72

Sounds good man :icon_smile_big:     I plan on putting a 440 in it in a few years but i want a good daily driver

General_01

Just as a heads up in case you didn't know, small block trannies do not bolt up to big blocks. If you do not really need a tranny right now you may want to wait until you put the 440 in. That way you only have to put the money out for 1 tranny.
1971 Dodge Charger Super Bee
496 stroker
4-speed

Musicman

Quote from: dodgecharger72 on October 03, 2009, 03:01:33 PM
I plan on putting a 440 in it in a few years but i want a good daily driver

I know what your saying... I plan on doing a lot of driving with my new build as well, which is why I built it the way I did.

Musicman

Quote from: General_01 on October 03, 2009, 03:32:27 PM
If you do not really need a tranny right now you may want to wait until you put the 440 in. That way you only have to put the money out for 1 tranny.

:thumbs:

dodgecharger72

Yeah i have considered that. I just dont know how much longer my 904 is gonna hold up

Tilar

Get yourself a motors transmission manual and rebuild the 727 yourself. It's probably one of the easiest tranny's to build short of a powerglide. And unless you are planning on throwing a whole lot of horsepower to it, you can put in a good set of clutches and a bolt in sprag and you're good to go.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



dodgecharger72

Are you suggesting buying an old 727 and rebuilding it?

Musicman

If you can get your hands on one, rebuilding a 727 is a great alternative. The kits are fairly inexpensive, and you can purchase some great literature like Carl Monroe's TORQUEFLITE A-727 Transmission Handbook to guide you through the process.




Tilar

Quote from: dodgecharger72 on October 03, 2009, 08:19:10 PM
Are you suggesting buying an old 727 and rebuilding it?

Yes, if you are going to be putting a 440 in it. Like Musicman said, the kits are relatively inexpensive and there are plenty of good books and manuals out there to help guilde you through it. Plus like I said it is really one of the easier ones to build. Probably the only tool you would want to buy is a clutch spring compressor to make the job easier, but you can do it without it.

Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



dodgecharger72

I was talking to my local performane shop and they said that by the time I buy an old 727 and rebuild it I will already have spent almost as much as a new tranny. Any truth to this?

dodgecharger72

They also told me that I could buy a transmission for my car and when I upgrade to a 440 all I will need is a big block torque converter not a whole new transmission

General_01

Quote from: dodgecharger72 on October 04, 2009, 01:42:08 PM
I was talking to my local performane shop and they said that by the time I buy an old 727 and rebuild it I will already have spent almost as much as a new tranny. Any truth to this?

Depends on what you spend on the tranny to start with. If you get a tranny for $50-$150 and buy the rebuild parts you might have about $300-$400 in the tranny depending on what you rebuild. If you have someone else do it, then yes, you will have as much or more into it.

Quote from: dodgecharger72 on October 04, 2009, 01:47:50 PM
They also told me that I could buy a transmission for my car and when I upgrade to a 440 all I will need is a big block torque converter not a whole new transmission


Don't buy anything from this performance shop. They obviously know nothing about Mopars. Must be a Chevy speed shop. You can get 727's for small blocks and big blocks. They do not interchange. The big blocks have a bigger bellhousing and thus a different bolt pattern then a small block. You will have to get a different tranny for the 440.
1971 Dodge Charger Super Bee
496 stroker
4-speed

RD

Quote from: dodgecharger72 on October 04, 2009, 01:42:08 PM
I was talking to my local performane shop and they said that by the time I buy an old 727 and rebuild it I will already have spent almost as much as a new tranny. Any truth to this?

No.  I sell them for $375 + shipping for a stock overhaul.

You can buy overhaul kits from O'Reilly's Autoparts (or any autoparts store for that matter) for around $100, find a core for in between $50-$100, add in your time, and voila..  you have a overhauled transmission for $150-$200.

Now, that being said.  Sometimes you may come across a bad core that has damaged internals or housings.  If that is the case, you need to find another one.  If you dont know what you are looking for, then it can be tedious and time consuming.

I dont know where you are located, but if you are near Kansas pm me, I may have a cost saving alternative for you.  Either way you look at it, its going to cost some of your time, you will need certain tools, and a good weekend to get it done right.

If you plan on doing it yourself, and you have any questions, email me (see profile) and I will help you out by giving you my phone number and I can be your techline.

good luck.
67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander

mopar_nut_440_6

I have two TCI transmissions and they have both been good and have lived behind a stroked 440 in a 4000 lb Charger with 3800 stall and sllicks. They were custom built for the engine torque specs and had reverse manual valve bodies installed for 2000 a piece.
1968 Charger R/T 440 
2004 Dodge Ram 2500 680 HP Cummins with attitude

69chargerR/T

Quote from: dodgecharger72 on October 02, 2009, 08:23:50 PM
Yeah I've been lookin at the streetfighters for a while. What kind of performance gains am i looking at with this switch?

I have a 440 in my car, but the streetfighter trans has much better performance than the stock trans  :2thumbs: I also got the TCI breakaway converter with the trans. The car pulls much harder, and is faster, and nice firm shifts compared  to the stock trans  :2thumbs:

Tilar

Quote from: RD on October 04, 2009, 04:25:30 PM
Quote from: dodgecharger72 on October 04, 2009, 01:42:08 PM
I was talking to my local performane shop and they said that by the time I buy an old 727 and rebuild it I will already have spent almost as much as a new tranny. Any truth to this?

No.  I sell them for $375 + shipping for a stock overhaul.

You can buy overhaul kits from O'Reilly's Autoparts (or any autoparts store for that matter) for around $100, find a core for in between $50-$100, add in your time, and voila..  you have a overhauled transmission for $150-$200.

Now, that being said.  Sometimes you may come across a bad core that has damaged internals or housings.  If that is the case, you need to find another one.  If you dont know what you are looking for, then it can be tedious and time consuming.

I dont know where you are located, but if you are near Kansas pm me, I may have a cost saving alternative for you.  Either way you look at it, its going to cost some of your time, you will need certain tools, and a good weekend to get it done right.

If you plan on doing it yourself, and you have any questions, email me (see profile) and I will help you out by giving you my phone number and I can be your techline.

good luck.

That sounds like a hell of a deal, and it won't cost you two grand. =)
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.