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68 VIN does not match body/rad support stampings- Why?

Started by mopar_nut_440_6, August 20, 2009, 11:18:06 AM

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69bronzeT5

On my Charger, in front of the order number is a B stating it's a Canadian car. On the Duster, there's a separate code on the fender tag. There's just a "C" stating it's a Canadian car. From what I've seen, US cars of that year and later had a "U".
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hemi-hampton

I've seen the C before for Canadian cars & E for Exports. SO, Who in here or anywhere else knows what all the different Letters mean before the VON? Quapman maybe? :scratchchin: :rofl: :hah: LEON.

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Quote from: hemi-hampton on August 21, 2009, 05:39:21 PM
I've seen the C before for Canadian cars & E for Exports. SO, Who in here or anywhere else knows what all the different Letters mean before the VON? Quapman maybe? :scratchchin: :rofl: :hah: LEON.

Probably not...he's just a smartass. I really am not up on my pre-70 number crunching except for the VON on the body thing. I do know that starting in 1971, export cars (other than to Canada) got an "I" on the fender tag and b-cast sheet. As previously stated, stateside cars got the "U", Great White North cars got a "C". The "Y" codes tell tales of destination also.

Are the other letters assembly plant and car line? Did someone else have this figured out earlier in the thread?

(What others have provided in this thread has been an additional wealth of knowledge to my mental database!)

Dodge Don

For 1970 (at least for St. Louis Assembly Plant)

C= Canadian Car

E= Export Car

K= Special Order (Y39)

M00= Show Car

M90= Show Car with Factory Sunroof

M99= Car Came With Factory Sunroof (M51)

Q= Executive Lease (Y22) or Public Relations (Y28)

T= CLC Lease Car (Y24)

It is possible that when a car qualifies for multiple designations, one will trump the others. An example of this would be a Y28 Public Relations car that also came equipped with a factory sunroof (M51) and the car could have been designated with an M or Q, in this case M was used, thereby trumping the use of Q.

69CoronetRT

Q can also mean dealer demo in '70.

Sometimes, there is also a significance to the third digit in the VON. It may have a reference to a sales region. Research continues on this one...
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

Alaskan_TA

D - Driver training car.

W - Dealership rental car.

R - replaced Q for 1971.

G -Sunroof for 1971

J - Special order paint or;

J - Special order, Superbird.

hemi-hampton

Where is/was this information found? I could never find any info on that? LEON.

Alaskan_TA

Some of it you just figure out as you go. It took me about ten years to figure out the W, I used to own a 1970 Valiant waith a W VON.

A dealership invoice for one appeared in my mail box one day, it ended a long search.   :cheers:

mopar_nut_440_6

Ok I have an update on the body stampings which appeared odd on my 68 and this is what I was told.

'68 & earlier the "shipping order number" plus body, year & plant were stamped in the core support and trunk lip (or appropriate locations).  In your case: "B" - Hamtramck plant, "8" - 1968, "X" - Charger, "A08557" - shipping order number.

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0X01B8

A little late to the convo, and FWIW, my car was built at Hamtramack on 1/16/68 too.  My VIN is pretty close too.  My rad stamping doesn't have an "A" but it's B8X068654.  This doesn't answer any questions, but I thought it's cool that another member's car went down the line a few hours before mine.   :icon_smile_cool:

DC_1

Old thread but........ I seem to remember someone stating the dealer order forms used at dealerships were pre-printed with a sequential number at the top. The ones used in Canada had a "A" followed by a sequential number. These numbers were used to track the order until it was assigned a VIN during assembly at the factory. At least that is my understanding. Anyone shed any light on this?

Btw, my 68 RT is a Canadian car and has the "A13161" stamped on the body and fender tag.

68X426

Interesting that this subject resurfaced. Today a 68 Road Runner came up for sale on ebay, located in Alberta. The fender tag has what appears to be both an "A" and a "C" in the SO.


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DC_1

Yep, that looks just like my SO number. The SO number has no sequential meaning in the build order or date. My build date is 2 days after that car yet my SO number is miles apart.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: 68X426 on November 05, 2010, 11:01:49 AM
Interesting that this subject resurfaced. Today a 68 Road Runner came up for sale on ebay, located in Alberta. The fender tag has what appears to be both an "A" and a "C" in the SO.

I think if you look carefully, the last number is a "0". A reflection is blocking the right hand portion of the number making it look like a "C".
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: Sydmoe on November 05, 2010, 09:34:09 AM
Old thread but........ I seem to remember someone stating the dealer order forms used at dealerships were pre-printed with a sequential number at the top. The ones used in Canada had a "A" followed by a sequential number. These numbers were used to track the order until it was assigned a VIN during assembly at the factory. At least that is my understanding. Anyone shed any light on this?

That's a good description of how things typically went for standard production cars. If there was something 'special' about the car (built for sale outside of the US, dealer demos, special paint, cop car, etc) , it could recieve one of several other SO designations.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.