Another Charger Died (another one will die)

[IowaCharger69]

What they need to do is start smashing trailer homes. Maybe then they'll start to feel as sick as we do.

[Mike DC]

The whole line of "the Charger was a real rust bucket and not worth saving"  is a load of crap.  I find it hard to believe that these guys can find a worn out broken down charger that doesn't have rare options every year when we have a whole board full of people who can't do it.  Also if these Chargers are so far from being saved as a complete car it sure as heck doesn't stop them from being a very useful parts car.

You don't need decent parts to jump one of these things.  I've seen aluminum foil tape for chrome trim, tailights made out of cardboard, grille dividers made of sheetmetal, etc.  Some of them haven't even had a dashboard frame at all, just the steering column fastened to the rollcage. 

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A few months ago there was a post on here that I oughtta dig up if I wasn't so lazy. 

It was a guy who had found one or two totally stripped down 2nd-gen bodyshells in a junkyard and saying "what do I have here?"   It surprised him because everyone basically said "looks like nothing worth saving" more or less.  So I posted on the thread saying, "okay, would you mind if he jumped one as a GL then?"  I don't think that idea had much support. 

 

[bamadukefan02]

I didn't mean trim pieces when I was referring to parts cars, I was thinking more along the lines of some of the metal that isn't reproduced yet.  But the bigger point I should of done a better point of making is that these people that do these jumps almost always talk about how the car that was jumped was a low option 318 car that wasn't worth saving.  I have to believe that at least a few times the cars that are destroyed in jumps or in movies could have been saved.  Also even though the car isn't worth saving right now because it is a 318 car doesn't mean that in a few years it won't be worth saving.  We have all heard stories of cars that were destroyed because at the time they weren't worth saving but now would be a 10k car. 

Someone mentioned the reproduction bodies like Dynacorn does for the Camaro and Mustang, is there any REAL chance of this happening for Chargers or is it just a pipe dream?  If it did become reality I would love to buy a body and build a Charger with all new parts

Holt

[MoparManJim]

Speaking as someone who is a fan of Chargers because of the Dukes of Hazzard and as someone who wants a Charger done up as the General Lee, I think these people that think its a good idea to keep jumping Chargers should be beat with a rubber hose.  The whole line of "the Charger was a real rust bucket and not worth saving"  is a load of crap.  I find it hard to believe that these guys can find a worn out broken down charger that doesn't have rare options every year when we have a whole board full of people who can't do it.  Also if these Chargers are so far from being saved as a complete car it sure as heck doesn't stop them from being a very useful parts car.

Holt

I agree with you on that note as while. I don't buy the "the Charger was a real rust bucket and not worth saving" either, that is just penny excuse that is always used. I was also looking for that line to come up and from the person that said it as well. Plus did you notice the ramp size  , thats not jumping, thats more like driving off a hill top or skipping. I didn't see any bondo flying off the car as it rolled. Maybe there wasalittle bondo here and there but from the photo posted above, that car looked to have been in good shape also.

[Mike DC]

   
Oh yeah, there have been some good cars wrecked for DOH over the years.  And other movies. 

Hardcore Racing's GL jump in Michigan was a crime by any standards.  Even the stunt crew was trying to talk the guy out of using that car. 

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The "rusty pile" excuse goes as short or as far as you want it to. 

Lots of guys (including me) have fixed cars that were just as rusty wrecks as many of the jumpers.  That's an argument in favor of saving them all.  But then again, there's a lot of those things still out there and the truth is most of them won't really ever get saved.  If you're willing to re-framerail and re-floor the entire unibody with $5000 worth of AMD metal, then suddenly it's not very difficult to find a suitable bare shell to start with, is it? 

That's the point.  It's not that the jumpers are WORTHLESS per se.  It's that a lot of people complain about seeing a $3000 shell jumped after they've walked right by another $3000 shell in the swap meet area of the event because it was a "rusty piece of crap."

[bamadukefan02]

I see your point about those people that complain and then at the same time wouldn't buy a rusty 3k shell.

I personally want to avoid a 3k shell if I can just because I know my limits when it comes to being able to fix a car.  I guess my thing is I would honestly rather see a car cut up and sold for parts than have it jumped, and that is partially because of the bad image it projects for us Duke fans.  In truth this is no worse than some guy letting one sit in a field and rust away because he is "gonna fix it some day", which also gets under my skin

Holt

[TylerCharger69]

Dammit!!!  I could've used that driver side fender too!!!

[jaak]

This topic usually comes up a couple times a year.....
I hate seeing chargers jumped and destroyed as much as the next person.....but....like Ive said before its all about money. If you can charge 25 bucks a head, and a thousand people show up, there is money to be made. To most people a 69 charger is an old clunker, we mopar fanatics are the only one that love 'em, and hate to see this happen to them, there's nothing we can do about it. It will continue to happen, so I don't get too worked up about it, there's nothing I can do.

If its any comfort look at it this way....If I had 6 Mickey Mantle rookie cards in front of me and I ripped one up, guess what....the other 5 just went up in value. Maybe the same holds true with Chargers?

Jason

[Mike DC]

Dammit!!!  I could've used that driver side fender too!!!

That's exactly the point I'm trying to make.  

WOULD you have used that LF fender if you saw it on Ebay?  What if it had bondo/rust/dents, needed sandblasting (costs money), and after shipping it would be near the price of a new AMD one?  Probably not.  




The jumps happen.  We don't have to like it but they're costing the hobby a lot less than they used to.  We can thank AMD & the resto industry for that.  

 

[RD]

Dammit!!!  I could've used that driver side fender too!!!

That's exactly the point I'm trying to make.  

WOULD you have used that LF fender if you saw it on Ebay?  What if it had bondo/rust/dents, needed sandblasting (costs money), and after shipping it would be near the price of a new AMD one?  Probably not.  




The jumps happen.  We don't have to like it but they're costing the hobby a lot less than they used to.  We can thank AMD & the resto industry for that.  

 

what if he needed it and he lived right down the road? then i guess, since this is a "what if" game, he would get one cheaper than the AMD piece

there are more charger owners out there that need parts than what are on this board.. what about them? 

[69bronzeT5]

Hardcore Racing's GL jump in Michigan was a crime by any standards.  Even the stunt crew was trying to talk the guy out of using that car. 

Wasn't Hardcore's car a R/T?

[MoparManJim]

Hardcore Racing's GL jump in Michigan was a crime by any standards.  Even the stunt crew was trying to talk the guy out of using that car.  

Wasn't Hardcore's car a R/T?

Yep, I very well do belive so. It was one of 5 GLE cars.  

[Mike DC]

  
The Hardcore jump was exactly the kind of worst-nightmare-scenario we all worry about.  


A briefly-rich real estate jerkoff threw a party for his shop's grand opening (it closed again almost immediately) and he smashed a real factory 440/4spd/Dana Charger.  It was a "GL Enterprises" car, one of 5 that Warner Bros had built in the early 1980s to tour the country at car shows.  Even the DOH stunt guys were trying to talk him out of using that particular car, but he would have none of it.  

The car had been on Ebay a few times in the last several years before he bought it.  After the jump it ended up with those crooks in Lake Villa Illinois.  If you believe Hans Ludke they supposedly fixed the original body (yeah right).  

   

[TylerCharger69]

Whatever the reasoning behind that madness....they should really take into consideration people who are trying to preserve these cars....I mean....people make major issues out of endangered species....which I understand and most people do, well  since this is automotive history we're talking about, I believe that the same consideration should be practiced in the same manner.  No...it isn't a living endangered creature....but...they are endangered.  The mentality of some people these days sickens me.  What they are doing SHOULD be against the law, and they should be sentenced accordingly and forced to share a prison cell with a big, big, dude named Tiny who sells cigarettes!!!

[jaak]

they should be sentenced accordingly and forced to share a prison cell with a big, big, dude named Tiny who sells cigarettes!!!

LMAO!

Jason

[bamadukefan02]

Hey jaak,

Roll Tide.  Now back to our regularly scheduled program

Holt

[MoparManJim]

 
The Hardcore jump was exactly the kind of worst-nightmare-scenario we all worry about.  


A briefly-rich real estate jerkoff threw a party for his shop's grand opening (it closed again almost immediately) and he smashed a real factory 440/4spd/Dana Charger.  It was a "GL Enterprises" car, one of 5 that Warner Bros had built in the early 1980s to tour the country at car shows.  Even the DOH stunt guys were trying to talk him out of using that particular car, but he would have none of it.  

The car had been on Ebay a few times in the last several years before he bought it.  After the jump it ended up with those crooks in Lake Villa Illinois.  If you believe Hans Ludke they supposedly fixed the original body (yeah right).  

   

One of 5? oops, I thought it was 1 of 4.  

I just upated my reply above with the #5 and not 4.

[jb666]

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=si8ze-bOD2o&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3Dsi8ze-bOD2o

I added my to that comment.

me too 

[jaak]

Hey jaak,

Roll Tide.  Now back to our regularly scheduled program

Holt

RTR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jason

[teamroth]

They should do it like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMOI8QTJX2M&feature=fvw

[Charger666]

They should do it like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMOI8QTJX2M&feature=fvw

Haha, those RC cars are cool!

Really is a shame that they keep jumping our cars though

God damn.

[Mike DC]

                         
I always liked his other one the best.  There's a great J-turn at 0:99, and then a great jump shot at 1:05.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76428401SUY&feature=related

These R/C clips are surprisingly entertaining & realistic for what they are.

   
 

[Supercharged Riot]

dont sell your Chargers guys. what way youll know theyll be safe...

[HemiTom]

Ya know, I don't like it either, I don't like the Cash For Clunkers at all...it just speeds up the destruction of good and possable future valuable autos. the car now might just be the Chargers of yesterday....

there needs to be a Carzar for the historic value in these older cars. maybe a lot of them can be saved...

[squeakfinder]

I disagree with the statement that we are the only ones who care about these cars. I put about 550 miles on my car over the past weekend. Everywhere I stopped someone would come up to me and talk about the car.