Another Charger Died (another one will die)

[Ghoste]

Or better yet... JUST STOP FRIKKIN' DOING IT!!!!!

[MoparManJim]

Or better yet... JUST STOP FRIKKIN' DOING IT!!!!!

I really agree with you on that. 

Haveing one event do that maybe every 20 years isn't bad but each year there is an event some where doing this gets boring so dang fast and makes me sick seeing a charger bit the dust like that and this goes for any classic car as well. Now take out the new computerize cars and jump them and I don't care at all about them.

[tan top]

I'd still be pissed because it reinforces the idea that Charger wrecking is cool.

   

[Steve P.]

As long as people will PAY to watch someone crash a car, this will continue.



PS.  I have been asked to add a (LANGUAGE ALERT).  Crashing these cars burns my butt as well.... 

[terrible one]

I wouldn't say I'm "against" jumps like this one, but only because I wouldn't want a bunch of people giving me shit for doing something I wanted.

It just upsets me that they make or buy running, driving Chargers just for the sake of jumping and destroying them when it's taken me five years and countless hours just to get mine where it's at, and it won't even move under it's own power.

[Steve P.]

YET..........     

[TylerCharger69]

Isn't there some sort of automotive historical preservation society that can stop this???  This day and age....these cars are somewhat rare (especially the 69).  Enough is enough, though.  When Travis Bell  did it a few years ago, I didn't understand why.  Then he began on the restoration of LEE 1  which was pretty much toast, so I have to give it to him for that.   Enough is enough, like I said....I have a GL  and I want to keep it as long as I live.....to me....there is no price high enough to preserve what I've wanted every since the DOH tv series

[gers1968rt]

This is all about money. If someone or some organization thinks they can buy a car for so much, and charge admission and it makes a healthy profit, then this will continue. I would never watch something like this, it made me sick watching it on youtube, but obviously there are alot of morons that will, and did. Gerry

[Mike DC]

   

It just upsets me that they make or buy running, driving Chargers just for the sake of jumping and destroying them when it's taken me five years and countless hours just to get mine where it's at, and it won't even move under it's own power.

If you built it like those jump cars are built, then it wouldn't take you 5 years. 

The car they jumped on the MTV special a few years ago was slammed together from a rusty bare shell in something like 12 days. 



(Just making an observation, not trying to defend more jumping.) 
 

[TylerCharger69]

I remember when Quentin Tarantino was on Jay Leno one night....talking about the Chargers and the Challengers used in Deathproof...When Jay asked him how they found the cars, he said Ebay and that the owners would not have sold those cars had they have known they were being led to their demise.  So  he should take a little heat as well...from what I understand  one of the Chargers were in excellent condition upon purchasing

[Ghoste]

Absolutely he should and ditto for the F&F franchise.

[MoparManJim]

Absolutely he should and ditto for the F&F franchise.

Don't for get Blade  , Dirty Mary Crazy Larry also. 

[OldGuy]

Hate to see it - but then again - one less Charger makes mine that much more valuable

[GN]

Is that what they do at the trailer court?

[Ghoste]

I don't know how many were destroyed for Blade, I've never watched it.  As for the films that wrecked them back in the DMCL time I can forgive that, no one saw them as classics then and there were still a lot to be had as decent used cars at the time.  Destroying them now I can't forgive because a) it keeps the "let's wreck an old musclecar for cheap thrills" mentality going in Hollywierd, and b) now that they have survived the used car phase of their cycle to become treasured classics we should know better.
The Dukefest style stunt jump stands out for it's blatant abuse.  Tarantino said it himself, most of the cars couldn't have been purchased if the sellers knew he was going to destroy them.  He doesn't care and as much as says so.  F&F make me cringe for a variety of reasons not the least of which being destroying another musclecar but I also can't stand the films for the way they taught every idiot with a body flare and a fart can on his Civic to drive 80 mph in the city and weave in and out of traffic as much as possible.

[Mike DC]

   
But then again, what happens when Dynacorn repops a certain bodystyle?  Is it still a crime to wreck a 1969 Camaro or a 1968 fastback Mustang?  Chargers aren't there (yet) but they're getting damn close with all the repro parts out there. 



Of course it's still a crime to stuff a whole decent car, but Hollywood generally wrecks stripped-down rusty shells. 

 

[Ghoste]

I think I'd have to change my opinion somewhat if there were complete new bodies available.   As far as them wrecking rusty shells, that isn't always the case (why would Tarantino need to keep the end use a secret if he were only using rusty shells?) but in the cases where they do, I imagine it has more to do with the shell being a cheaper car to total than it does any reverence for automotive history.  Somehow I think that the film industry would happily destroy the last remaining Hemi Cuda convertible in the world provided they could make one more dollar in box office receipts than they paid for the car.

[FLG]

I think I'd have to change my opinion somewhat if there were complete new bodies available.   As far as them wrecking rusty shells, that isn't always the case (why would Tarantino need to keep the end use a secret if he were only using rusty shells?) but in the cases where they do, I imagine it has more to do with the shell being a cheaper car to total than it does any reverence for automotive history.  Somehow I think that the film industry would happily destroy the last remaining Hemi Cuda convertible in the world provided they could make one more dollar in box office receipts than they paid for the car.

They sure would. They dont give a crap, maybe some do...but most of em dont care.

As for my previous question about reusing the already jumped cars. Yes i understand the whole chassis is tiwsted and bent and destroyed...BUT they do make new front and rear rails for these cars, AMD just about pops ALL of the sheet metal. They dont need to be street legal...they just need to last long enough to hit the ramp again and smash on the floor. Why not just buy new metal, throw it on and go again??

If this were the case then really i would have no problem seeing them jump the same car over and over it would only be one car destroyed.

[Sabre]

Tired of seeing Chargers being destroyed.  Tired of these jumps giving Dukes/General Lee fans bad names.

[Mike DC]

     
The major Hollywood studios would kill small children onscreen if it would make them money.  If they couldn't do it in the US then they would move the production to a third world country.   



Quentin Tarantino probably knows less about the specifics of the Chargers wrecked in Deathproof than we know here.  I doubt he went around car-shopping with the transpo director during pre-production.  And the primary film directors usually aren't even present during the majority of the 2nd-unit (stunt) shooting.  The stories these guys tell about the cars are probably at least half composed of stuff they only heard secondhand. 




As for re-using the GL unibodies, it's a money and safety issue.  That, and nobody ever knows when the last jump will be done so it's a dis-incentive to invest major money in reusable stuff.  Re-using a jump car is doable in theory but it's usually just not that practical. It's easy for us to say "reuse that!" . . . but do YOU wanna be the guy that straps himself into the re-used car and launches it 2-3 stories into the air?

[TylerCharger69]

It seems to me...that if complete unibodies become available for Chargers, they still, in my opinion, wouldn't be worth as much as the originals.  I also remember, and probably a lot of you do as well, when "Tim the Tool Man" staged the I beam crushing a Chevy Nomad during the taping of "Home Improvement".  A lot of people were angry over that  seeing as how Nomads are very rare.   It was nice to know that that particular car was just a mock-up and not the real one.  Any vehicle of that stature being Mustangs, Chargers, Camaros, GTOs, etc. etc. don't need to be destroyed senselessly. All American muscle has its place in history.  Maybe they can destroy those '80's style Charger 2.2s.   I don't think many would care over that....ha ha

[MoparManJim]

It seems to me...that if complete unibodies become available for Chargers, they still, in my opinion, wouldn't be worth as much as the originals.  I also remember, and probably a lot of you do as well, when "Tim the Tool Man" staged the I beam crushing a Chevy Nomad during the taping of "Home Improvement".  A lot of people were angry over that  seeing as how Nomads are very rare.   It was nice to know that that particular car was just a mock-up and not the real one.  Any vehicle of that stature being Mustangs, Chargers, Camaros, GTOs, etc. etc. don't need to be destroyed senselessly. All American muscle has its place in history.  Maybe they can destroy those '80's style Charger 2.2s.   I don't think many would care over that....ha ha

A men brother!

[69bronzeT5]

There's almost no chance of saving the poor car

[MoparManJim]

There's almost no chance of saving the poor car

Yea, I feel very sorry for the poor charger, on the other board, I heard from his friend that said this car wasn't all the good and that it was piece togother. You would think if it was piece togother from the other jump cars and what not that it wouldn't be safe to even jump. The guy said it was in bad shape. If it was in bad shape they why did they use it for jumping   .  

Just looking at that photo you just posted man makes me   more for that poor charger.  

[bamadukefan02]

Speaking as someone who is a fan of Chargers because of the Dukes of Hazzard and as someone who wants a Charger done up as the General Lee, I think these people that think its a good idea to keep jumping Chargers should be beat with a rubber hose.  The whole line of "the Charger was a real rust bucket and not worth saving"  is a load of crap.  I find it hard to believe that these guys can find a worn out broken down charger that doesn't have rare options every year when we have a whole board full of people who can't do it.  Also if these Chargers are so far from being saved as a complete car it sure as heck doesn't stop them from being a very useful parts car.

Holt