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ck-ing Interest - 4 speed with console lower boot

Started by gtx6970, July 13, 2009, 06:04:09 PM

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gtx6970

Just bumping this back up.

I may have found a source for several NOS lower boots.

As it stands right now I could resell these at approx $100 to a max $125.

anyone interested? I have don't have an exact quanity avail yet. These just came to my attention this past weekend.

I may decide to go this route for now , if for nothing more than to exhaust all/any avail supply of all/any readily avail boots.
THEN depending on how sales goes from there decide to do a repop piece , or not

resq302

Quote from: gtx6970 on December 01, 2009, 10:34:23 AM
Just bumping this back up.

I may have found a source for several NOS lower boots.

As it stands right now I could resell these at approx $100 to a max $125.

anyone interested? I have don't have an exact quanity avail yet. These just came to my attention this past weekend.

I may decide to go this route for now , if for nothing more than to exhaust all/any avail supply of all/any readily avail boots.
THEN depending on how sales goes from there decide to do a repop piece , or not

Bill, if I had the money right now I would but with the holidays fast approaching as well as my daughters birthday on Dec. 19th, money right now is pretty much non existant.  But I am definitely interested in this piece should you repro it!
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

Dans 68

Quote from: resq302 on December 01, 2009, 11:21:20 AM
Quote from: gtx6970 on December 01, 2009, 10:34:23 AM
Just bumping this back up.

I may have found a source for several NOS lower boots.

As it stands right now I could resell these at approx $100 to a max $125.

anyone interested? I have don't have an exact quanity avail yet. These just came to my attention this past weekend.

I may decide to go this route for now , if for nothing more than to exhaust all/any avail supply of all/any readily avail boots.
THEN depending on how sales goes from there decide to do a repop piece , or not

Bill, if I had the money right now I would but with the holidays fast approaching as well as my daughters birthday on Dec. 19th, money right now is pretty much non existant.  But I am definitely interested in this piece should you repro it!

Ditto on the waiting until after the holidays, at least. I would also be interested if repro boots were made.

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

bull

Well, it's after the holidays. Any news on this project happening and/or the NOS score?

CB

1968 Dodge Coronet 500

Dans 68

1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

CB

1968 Dodge Coronet 500

elacruze

1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
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Torque converters are for construction equipment.

gtx6970

So, just how much interest in these is there?
If they were avail today at $85 each ready to bolt on, would you buy one ?

Lets see a raise of hands

bull

Quote from: gtx6970 on April 11, 2010, 10:50:38 PM
So, just how much interest in these is there?
If they were avail today at $85 each ready to bolt on, would you buy one ?

Lets see a raise of hands

Sure. That is if there's some sort of warranty. Too many times have people here bought first-run stuff that fell apart on them within a few months.

At any rate, are you saying they are/will/can be built?

Dans 68

Quote from: gtx6970 on April 11, 2010, 10:50:38 PM
So, just how much interest in these is there?
If they were avail today at $85 each ready to bolt on, would you buy one ?

Lets see a raise of hands

If this is the one you are talking about (for my '68) I would be a definite yes.

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

bull

Dan, I believe that's the upper boot for a non-console car. The lower boots are pictured above.

Dans 68

Quote from: bull on April 11, 2010, 11:31:35 PM
Dan, I believe that's the upper boot for a non-console car. The lower boots are pictured above.

Well, all righty, then. The first photo shows my '68 and it's existing lower boot. The second one shows both the lower and upper. The third photos shows the area that the lower boot needs to cover/encompass. So Curtis, you are telling me that the boot currently installed as the lower boot is not correct?  :scratchchin:

Now, upon looking at the Factory Service Manual for the '68, the lower boot I have is shown as correct for the Inland shifter. In the '69 Factory Service Manual the "other" one (the one in question that this thread is about) is shown as correct for the Hurst shifter. So, I have a '68, with a Hurst shifter modified for the Inland handle...which should I use? Did the '68's that came stock with a Hurst shifter have "my" lower boot, or the "69" lower boot?

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

bull

Well, now that you've got me double checking the book I can't honestly say I see any difference in the Inland console lower boot and the Inland non-console upper boot. Can you? Moreover, it looks like I was wrong in thinking that what he has pictured above will work for our application. I guess I was thinking of the lower boot at the bottom of the pic I posted below (which doesn't necessarily look right either). :shruggy:

And to answer your question, I would use what's correct for an Inland shifter, not Hurst.

Dans 68

I'm glad I'm not going completely bonkers.  :icon_smile_big:  The lower boot is unique to the Inland shifters (from what I have been able to determine) and not used on the Hurst shifters. I'm still searching for an answer to whether the late '68 Hurst shifter supplied cars had a different lower boot (under the console, that is).  :scratchchin:

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

bull

Quote from: Dans 68 on April 12, 2010, 01:07:26 AM
I'm glad I'm not going completely bonkers.  :icon_smile_big:  The lower boot is unique to the Inland shifters (from what I have been able to determine) and not used on the Hurst shifters. I'm still searching for an answer to whether the late '68 Hurst shifter supplied cars had a different lower boot (under the console, that is).  :scratchchin:

Dan

If that boot is unique to Inland then we're screwed because no one is going to bother reproducing it.

Ok, so one more thing. If I'm correctly combining your pictures with what's in the book, am I to understand there are actually three boots at work with the Inland? Or better said, a two-piece lower boot?

Dans 68

Yep. Do you want a photo or two of it? Got it in the garage.

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

Dans 68

1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

bull

Quote from: Dans 68 on April 12, 2010, 01:17:17 AM
Yep. Do you want a photo or two of it? Got it in the garage.

Dan

If it's not a hassle. I was actually just looking at your thread with the pic below, but if you've got a pic of it out of the car I would definitely like to see that. I've never actually seen one to be honest. Mine is long gone... :brickwall:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?topic=67810.0


Dans 68

I'll post some good shots of it tomorrow.  :cheers:

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

bull

Quote from: Dans 68 on April 12, 2010, 01:23:45 AM
Curtis,

Isn't this what you want? http://www.brewersperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SB510. Looks to be the ticket.

Dan

That's a non-console boot and I need the console version. But look what Brewer's lists for an under console boot 68-70 (for Hurst and N/A): http://www.brewersperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SB481

bull


Dans 68

Quote from: bull on April 12, 2010, 01:29:26 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on April 12, 2010, 01:23:45 AM
Curtis,

Isn't this what you want? http://www.brewersperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SB510. Looks to be the ticket.

Dan

That's a non-console boot and I need the console version. But look what Brewer's lists for an under console boot (probably Hurst and N/A): http://www.brewersperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SB481

I'm slightly puzzled...do you need the under console boot or the console boot? What I linked to is the boot that covers the shifter and attaches to the floor tunnel, is under the console, and should be the same part as used in a non-console '68 car.

Dan

Edit:
Quote from: bull on April 12, 2010, 01:29:26 AM
...But look what Brewer's lists for an under console boot 68-70 (for Hurst and N/A): http://www.brewersperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SB481

Yep, and unavailable as of Feb 2010 according to their description, but same part number.
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

bull

Quote from: Dans 68 on April 12, 2010, 01:38:42 AM
Quote from: bull on April 12, 2010, 01:29:26 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on April 12, 2010, 01:23:45 AM
Curtis,

Isn't this what you want? http://www.brewersperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SB510. Looks to be the ticket.

Dan

That's a non-console boot and I need the console version. But look what Brewer's lists for an under console boot (probably Hurst and N/A): http://www.brewersperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SB481

I'm slightly puzzled...do you need the under console boot or the console boot? What I linked to is the boot that covers the shifter and attaches to the floor tunnel, is under the console, and should be the same part as used in a non-console '68 car.

Dan

I have a new repro upper boot, or what the service manual calls the "Lever Boot" in that pic I posted. I don't have the lower boot (the portion that's below the 4-speed hump) but I do have the top half of the lower boot and it's shot. Let me rephrase using the service manual terminology; the manual lists a lower boot, an upper boot and a lever boot. I have the lever boot and the upper boot (which is shot) but no lower boot.

Dans 68

Quote from: bull on April 12, 2010, 01:45:50 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on April 12, 2010, 01:38:42 AM
Quote from: bull on April 12, 2010, 01:29:26 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on April 12, 2010, 01:23:45 AM
Curtis,

Isn't this what you want? http://www.brewersperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SB510. Looks to be the ticket.

Dan

That's a non-console boot and I need the console version. But look what Brewer's lists for an under console boot (probably Hurst and N/A): http://www.brewersperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SB481

I'm slightly puzzled...do you need the under console boot or the console boot? What I linked to is the boot that covers the shifter and attaches to the floor tunnel, is under the console, and should be the same part as used in a non-console '68 car.

Dan

I have a new repro upper boot, or what the service manual calls the "Lever Boot" in that pic I posted. I don't have the lower boot (the portion that's below the 4-speed hump) but I do have the top half of the lower boot and it's shot. Let me rephrase using the service manual terminology; the manual lists a lower boot, an upper boot and a lever boot. I have the lever boot and the upper boot (which is shot) but no lower boot.

All right. Going by your definitions the lower boot (Inland Shifter specific) is not being reproduced (I have never seen it). The upper boot is what I linked to above. The lever boot is also available (http://www.megapartsusa.com/proddetail.asp?prod=183-SB454).

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259