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Hooker vs Headman

Started by aifilaw, November 18, 2005, 05:35:50 PM

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aifilaw

sounds like i'll be going with the hookers, now that you mention it I do remember the headman issues. Good to see you again chryco, we need to run into each other again next time you come down to the states, if I ever get enough cash I'll be starting a major charger project I'd like you in on (ahh dreams), but I have a wedding and honeymoon too pay for, so it may still be a few years down the line.

as for the eddy flames...that's good that the eddy's are running. I can post better numbers than that using some 452's :), my complaint about eddy's is partially their ealy casting flaws, but mostly their inability to be modified. From the factory they are at about 90-95% of their potential flow numbers and power. You can get bulldogs, or almost any other aluminum head that start out lower or higher in potential stock and can be modified well past the eddy's, That's my gripe, for most who like to slap them on and drive...your welcome to them.
'72 B5 Metallic Blue Hardtop
426" Wedge - Hydraulic Roller Stealth heads

firefighter3931

Quote from: aifilaw on November 21, 2005, 01:11:55 PM

as for the eddy flames...that's good that the eddy's are running. I can post better numbers than that using some 452's :), my complaint about eddy's is partially their ealy casting flaws, but mostly their inability to be modified. From the factory they are at about 90-95% of their potential flow numbers and power. You can get bulldogs, or almost any other aluminum head that start out lower or higher in potential stock and can be modified well past the eddy's, That's my gripe, for most who like to slap them on and drive...your welcome to them.

I'd like to see a 10.5:1, 452 head, flat tappet, PUMP GAS combo make better numbers than mine. We are talking street car here.   ;)

The Eddy's are far from maxed out as delivered....there's another 35-40 cfm hidden in there...... if you know where to look for it   :P

I suppose if you really need to go faster than 9's then maybe these aren't your heads. Here's a Cuda running 9.80's with a flat tappet cam and 446 cubes....you tell me if they're working ? Oh, and that's all motor....no blower no nitrous.....all throttle baby !     

Are there better heads out there, of course there are.....but the Performer RPM's are pretty hard to beat for the money.   :devil:

68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

Plumcrazy

Quote from: cudaken on November 21, 2005, 09:31:27 AM
Dam, I all wise thought the starters where the same sizes? Only starter I thought was driffrent where on the Hemi 4 speed's. They where direct drive starters.


There were 1.5 hp starters and 1.8 hp starters.     The 1.8.s are around an inch or so longer.


I've had the same set of Hedman's on my car for almost 30 years with no problems.
When I bolt on my e-heads this winter a new set of ceramic coated Hedman's are going to be bolted up to them.

It's not a midlife crisis, it's my second adolescence.

THE CHARGER PUNK

our 68 charger has console shift automatic with power steering and it required a bit of dings here and there to make the hooker headers properly fit(and some of the spark plugs were to close 2 header and burnt)-MATT

mopar0166

Whats the latest opinion on this subject im finishing a 440 build with e heads and have power steering.  Im using solid motor mounts and i am considering the hooker headers 5903 with 17/8

What are peoples thoughts,  Id rather go with my oringal plan of hookers but am now considering the hedman headers because i was using on my small block with zero issues. 

mopar0166


justcruisin

I run the 5903 1 7/8 hookers on my 71 440, e-heads, power steer. I needed to clearance the number 2 pipe for number 2 and 4 plug, also number 8 needed plug clearance, no big deal. The 5 pipe fouled on the power steer and needed clearing  and the number 2 pipe fouls on the body when the motor torques over, I guess not a problem with solid mounts. The e-heads combined with thick gaskets (I use Percy's) are closer to the body. No experience with the headmans.

firefighter3931

Quote from: mopar0166 on April 18, 2013, 08:21:54 AM
Whats the latest opinion on this subject im finishing a 440 build with e heads and have power steering.  Im using solid motor mounts and i am considering the hooker headers 5903 with 17/8

What are peoples thoughts,  Id rather go with my oringal plan of hookers but am now considering the hedman headers because i was using on my small block with zero issues. 


Go with TTI  :2thumbs:


Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

metallicareload99

Quote from: firefighter3931 on April 18, 2013, 04:55:37 PM
Quote from: mopar0166 on April 18, 2013, 08:21:54 AM
Whats the latest opinion on this subject im finishing a 440 build with e heads and have power steering.  Im using solid motor mounts and i am considering the hooker headers 5903 with 17/8

What are peoples thoughts,  Id rather go with my oringal plan of hookers but am now considering the hedman headers because i was using on my small block with zero issues. 


Go with TTI  :2thumbs:


Ron

:iagree:

Go cheap with the Headmans or go with TTI.  Why pay 1.5 times the price of Headmans and still have at least the same amount of headache?  On my Headmans I had to put a good sized dent in cylinder #1's primary.  I wish I went with TTI
1968, When Dinosaurs Ruled The Earth

Steve P.

I find it amazing that after all these years of building headers for mopar engines, HOOKER STILL cannot bend and dimple their product or refine it KNOWING that everyone has to pound the crap out of them and that questions like this one comes up all the time!!!!!!! 

Though I have never installed TTI's I have seen hundreds of them installed and I never see boots burnt or hear people complain about fitment....  :2thumbs:
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

mopar0166

Thanks for the messages, where is the big differences between the small and big block stuff.  my small block stuff worked fine. 

Id love to go get TTI headers but im way over budget in my engine swap right now as it is.   im thinking 300 is the max i have left in the budget for headers. 

ottawamerc

On my build I decided to go with the Hooker ceramic comp headers 1 7/8 tube and well the first set didnt fit, they hit the steering box and torsion bar. I returned them then tried the super comps 1 3/4 tubes at twice the price but hey they fit like a charm then one day while the car was on the hoist I noticed a large area where the ceramic was missing so off they came again :brickwall: Third set of Hookers now but same set of super comps and of course they fit too but not as well :shruggy: The #1 and #3 plug wire boots touch on my( oh yeah you guessed it) E-Heads so now I need to fix that. The starter was never a problem with either of the headers allthough I'm using a mini starter. NO idea on longevity but all I can say is they better $^%#@# last!!!!!

Good luck

Scott
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