4 spd swap about to start- need help

[c00nhunterjoe]

i have just about accuired all of the parts i need for the 4 speed conversion. i need about 20 dollars worth of clips and springs and a clutch. but that is the easy stuff.......

2 questions.

1- do the 833's take standard 80w-90 or should i run a synthethic lube in it?
2- my car is an auto, i rebuilt the motor over 8 years ago. i put a remanned crank in it so i have no idea about the pilot bushing. i have read that there could be big problems with this as far as size of the hole and not being machined enough for a pilot bushing. what am i looking for and what is the procedure for using the larger diameter needle bearing that has you cut off a 1/2 inch of the input shaft?

[Rolling_Thunder]

you can run standard gear lube....       no need for synthetic

[Mick70RR]

If your crank isn't drilled for the pilot bushing you can use a pilot bushing adaptor.

http://www.brewersperformance.com/products.asp?id=16

The end of the input shaft may have to be cut down.

[c00nhunterjoe]

the bearing from brewers is what i was refering to. so i just press that bearing into the torque converter cut out and knock a half inch off the input shaft? sounds too easy??  even if my crank is cut properly i like the idea of the needle bearing better

[Runner]

i just switched from a 75-90 gear oil to redline mtl and i will tell you it made a world of differance.  ive heard VERY good things of penzoil synchromesh.   i cant stress enough how much better the redline oil is than the stuff i had in it.      synthetic oils can be ran in a manual tranny IF it is formulated for the synchro's.  royal purple and amsoil both make lube thats suposed to be good, but if your looking for a budget lube give the synchomesh a try  you can get it for 6 bucks a quart at autozone

[c00nhunterjoe]

ok cool, another question came up.

what is the purpose of the over center spring on the clutch pedal? if there is a shift fork spring on the fork and bellhousing then what is the one on the clutch pedal for? i am used to cable or hydraulic clutches, not mechanical...lol 

[Mick70RR]

The over centre spring on the clutch pedal assists operation of the clutch. I tried driving my car without it and it was hard work. It's only used with Borg and Beck style clutches, remove it if you fit a diaphram type clutch else the spring will hold the pedal on the floor.

[c00nhunterjoe]

ok cool, i am either getting the zoom clutch or the centerforce dual friction, that makes sense now. i dont need the spring then. Thanks!!!!!! thats 50 bucks saved!

[c00nhunterjoe]

lets make this a little more simple, i am going to list what i have and whaat i think i need to get still, you guys let me know if i am forgetting anything!

i have-

833 trans
11 bellhousing
11 inch flywheel
flywheel cover
clutch fork
hurst shifter and linkage
z-bar
z-bar to fork linkage and hardware
z-bar to pedal linkage
z-bar overhaul kit with balls and bushing and clips
complete pedal assembly with brackets

i still need-
1 clutch linkage clip part number clc085
1 clutch linkage washer pn   clw086
1 clutch fork pivot  pn     fp263 (based on my bell housing sn)
1 frame ball stud mount pn  fb470
1 fork spring    pn        fs705
1 pilot roller bearing pn prb5300
throw out bearing

all of those parts are available form brewers

need a shifter handle, have my choice of the hurst ball knob style or a pistol grip from a friend

need a cltuch as well, one of the 2 following
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=ZZZ-30025&N=700+4294925134+4294839071+4294865886+4294925082+4294908110+4294908099+4294908395+4294787404+400409+115&autoview=sku
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=CTF-DF070800&N=700+4294925134+4294839071+4294865886+4294925082+4294908110+4294908099+4294908395+4294787404+4294791147+115&autoview=sku


is there anything i am forgetting about? besides nuts and bolts of course

[c00nhunterjoe]

i went with the dual friction centerforce, how many quarts of gear oil does it hold?

[Runner]

7.5 pints or 3.75 quarts