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I DONT UNDERSTAND!!!

Started by charger_cody, April 25, 2009, 07:14:16 PM

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charger_cody

Why people buy cars like a third gen charger and try so hard to make it a general lee.  :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall:


The general lee was a 69 not a freakin 73.

Idiot rednecks.

Sorry for the rant guys i just dont like posers.


Cody

bigred68

C'mon young'un, variety is the spice of life. Just because you may not care for something, or maybe MANY people don't care for something, doesn't mean that thing isn't special to the person who owns it. Maybe the Dukes was my all time favorite show growing up as a kid, and by happenstance my father was a Mopar guy and owned this pristine gold '73 SE. By the time my father had passed after his lengthy battle with cancer, the Charger, that I have now inherited is in dire need of a complete restoration. Being a person not of great wealth or knowledge of how to do a more concurs correct restoration, I do what any 20 something might do, to honor my father, to remember my childhood with him, I build the nicest General Lee I can with the money and knowledge I have. Yup, I know its not a '69 (not all the series G.L.'s were '69's by the way)Yup, I know its not the nicest body work or paint but, it's mine, was my fathers, and I will love it forever.
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mikepmcs

Very well said Jeffery!  Cody, gotta live your life and not worry about others choices brother. 
Jud Hudson(member) has/had a very nice 3rd gen done like a GL
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69charger2002

i gotta agree though it is wrong to do a 73 into a general.  :eek2:
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C_stripes

Quote from: 69charger2002 on April 25, 2009, 08:58:33 PM
i gotta agree though it is wrong to do a 73 into a general.  :eek2:

Personally, I think it is wrong to do any of them a general lee. It is to over done. I would much rather see a DMCL Charger. But if to many of them pop up, it will be the same. I personally like cars that are unique.

Not trying to ruffle any feathers. Just stating my opinion.

I think that as long as the owner is happy with the car, what does it matter what others think? If I ever win the lottery, I will but a 71 HEMI 'cuda and totally turn it into a 70's cruiser complete with aftermarket sunroof, louvers, wide keystones, Pink Floyd T-shirt seat covers and any other crazy 70's stuff I can think of and then dress myself in vintage 70's clothes(if I can find any in my ++++++++++ size :icon_smile_big:) and drive the sh*t out of it. Lots of people would be pissed, but it is my car to do with what I want.   By the way. I really would do that.  :yesnod:
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I personally would never do it, but each to his/her own.  If you can't get the icing, you can still have the cake. :shruggy:
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MoparManJim

Quote from: C_stripes on April 25, 2009, 10:07:41 PM
Quote from: 69charger2002 on April 25, 2009, 08:58:33 PM
i gotta agree though it is wrong to do a 73 into a general.  :eek2:

Personally, I think it is wrong to do any of them a general lee. It is to over done. I would much rather see a DMCL Charger. But if to many of them pop up, it will be the same. I personally like cars that are unique.

Not trying to ruffle any feathers. Just stating my opinion.

I think that as long as the owner is happy with the car, what does it matter what others think? If I ever win the lottery, I will but a 71 HEMI 'cuda and totally turn it into a 70's cruiser complete with aftermarket sunroof, louvers, wide keystones, Pink Floyd T-shirt seat covers and any other crazy 70's stuff I can think of and then dress myself in vintage 70's clothes(if I can find any in my ++++++++++ size :icon_smile_big:) and drive the sh*t out of it. Lots of people would be pissed, but it is my car to do with what I want.   By the way. I really would do that.  :yesnod:

Okay, you say there are over done.. now tell me this how many chargers did they make back in the day and with that they ahd like close to 300 General's built. Now add in the replicas now days there are maybe close to a 1000 give or take a hundred. Now you are saying General Lee's are over done. I don't think they are.  

Now, if you want to complain about them distroying the chargers, just look at how many chargers are seating in old junkyards around the country that are going to get crush because folks didn't want to sell them when they could have. But now are rusted out, plus what about all the chargers that people got stupid in and was drunk and wrack? Yea, I'm pertty sure there are way more then just 200 and somthing that wasn't distoryed on a certain tv show that other folks had kill'd.  

Alot of chargers out there that are rusted out that alot of folks doesn't want to even touch, Duke fans are buying those chargers and making somthing of those chargers and are bringing them back on the road where others didn't want to touch them. And what that charger from being dead? The Dukes of Hazzard saves another charger and yet folks wants to complain about them.  

Dirty Mary Crazy Larry also kill'd a charger, Eat My Dust 2 kill'd a 1970 one, The Fast and Ferious kill'd a 1970 one, Deathproof kill'd afew 69's, Glataior (with Ken Whale) kill'd a 69 (General Lee), The Dukes 05 film kill'd afew. I'm sure they are other films that had 2nd gen chargers get kill'd in them as while.  :shruggy:

MoparManJim

Quote from: 69charger2002 on April 25, 2009, 08:58:33 PM
i gotta agree though it is wrong to do a 73 into a general.  :eek2:

I think they look good as a General as while.  :shruggy:

General_01

Cody, alot of GL fans do what they can to honor a show and car they love. I think the big reason guys do third gens up like the GL is because they want a GL but can't afford the price of a running '68-'69 Charger. The price for a running and driving 2nd gen is astronomical compared to a 3rd gen. You are talking around a $10,000 difference sometimes. And then the paint and decals and such. I love seeing people do cars up any way they want. When I had my General, I put Keystones Klassics on it for about 5 years before I decided to get the Vectors because at that time the Vectors were getting ridiculous in price. We're talking Vectors going for around $1,000 for a set of 4. :o
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Kevin68N71

It's just a matter of what floats your boat.  For example, I don't mind an "incorrect, non matching engine" (I am biased both of mine are like that) because over the years, things happen.  I also can appreciate some of the wild things George Barris has done in general with cars.

However, I personally cannot stand clones.  I absolutely hate them.  And there are so many of them now, you never know what you are looking at.  In part, they have ruined the "OMG look at that!" because the Hemi Cuda you are looking at might have been a 318 that some guy dolled up.  I would much rather look at a gorgeous original 318 that the car WAS.  However, some very nice people do clones, and you can't hold that against them when they are doing their own cars.

Now guys that specialize in businesses of cloning phony cars....now, that I don't know about!  But when someone tells me a car is a clone, I immediatly lose any interest in it.  I  don't care how hard they worked on it, it's bogus.  But again, that's just my opinion.
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General_01

Quote from: Kevin68N71 on April 25, 2009, 10:43:57 PM
It's just a matter of what floats your boat.  For example, I don't mind an "incorrect, non matching engine" (I am biased both of mine are like that) because over the years, things happen.  I also can appreciate some of the wild things George Barris has done in general with cars.

However, I personally cannot stand clones.  I absolutely hate them.  And there are so many of them now, you never know what you are looking at.  In part, they have ruined the "OMG look at that!" because the Hemi Cuda you are looking at might have been a 318 that some guy dolled up.  I would much rather look at a gorgeous original 318 that the car WAS.  However, some very nice people do clones, and you can't hold that against them when they are doing their own cars.

Now guys that specialize in businesses of cloning phony cars....now, that I don't know about!  But when someone tells me a car is a clone, I immediatly lose any interest in it.  I  don't care how hard they worked on it, it's bogus.  But again, that's just my opinion.

I think you are entitled to your opinion. I hope that someday you come to the conclusion that you can still respect the hard work and effort people put into their clones even if you don't like clones. Sometimes more work and effort goes into making a clone then putting it back to original. I personally don't mind clones. I don't like it when people try to pass off their clone as original. :flame:
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Kevin68N71

Quote from: General_01 on April 25, 2009, 10:48:58 PM
Quote from: Kevin68N71 on April 25, 2009, 10:43:57 PM
It's just a matter of what floats your boat.  For example, I don't mind an "incorrect, non matching engine" (I am biased both of mine are like that) because over the years, things happen.  I also can appreciate some of the wild things George Barris has done in general with cars.

However, I personally cannot stand clones.  I absolutely hate them.  And there are so many of them now, you never know what you are looking at.  In part, they have ruined the "OMG look at that!" because the Hemi Cuda you are looking at might have been a 318 that some guy dolled up.  I would much rather look at a gorgeous original 318 that the car WAS.  However, some very nice people do clones, and you can't hold that against them when they are doing their own cars.

Now guys that specialize in businesses of cloning phony cars....now, that I don't know about!  But when someone tells me a car is a clone, I immediatly lose any interest in it.  I  don't care how hard they worked on it, it's bogus.  But again, that's just my opinion.

I think you are entitled to your opinion. I hope that someday you come to the conclusion that you can still respect the hard work and effort people put into their clones even if you don't like clones. Sometimes more work and effort goes into making a clone then putting it back to original. I personally don't mind clones. I don't like it when people try to pass off their clone as original. :flame:

Well yes, your absolutely right, then cloning is moving into forgery, which is illegal. 
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Khyron

I had a lot typed out.... but deleted it, I'll just say this..

everyone is entitled to the opinions..... just some people have the decency to remember what they where taught "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all"

Cody, if it makes you happy to insult someones car and work.... then so be it.... Be who you want to be... My opinion would be to keep it to yourself and do something constructive like work on your own car, complete it... so others can tear it apart as well. Be sure to Post up pictures when it's done, so this fellow "Poser clone owner" and nitpick it apart.


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terrible one

Hehe you know what's funny . . . and don't take it as an insult, just a thought that popped into my hazy head . . .

The way YOU are doing your Charger (and most others around here, me too) is much more "overdone" than a third gen GL!  :scratchchin: :P

elanmars

there's that tv commercial with a '73 general and that kid with a nice '73 i've seen on flickr and here on this site, i think they're neat. compared to 2nd gens, i think it's "cool" and a good "what if" to see 1st and 3rd gens as general lees. don't think i've seen 4 and 5th gen general lees, seen 6th ones and they look goofy with the 4 doors. hell, that thunderbird posted a few days ago looks way better haha!!

i don't think anyone that did a different generation general lee did it out of ignorance but rather to be different and i give them props for that.
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C_stripes

Quote from: MoparManJim on April 25, 2009, 10:30:50 PM
Quote from: C_stripes on April 25, 2009, 10:07:41 PM
Quote from: 69charger2002 on April 25, 2009, 08:58:33 PM
i gotta agree though it is wrong to do a 73 into a general.  :eek2:

Personally, I think it is wrong to do any of them a general lee. It is to over done. I would much rather see a DMCL Charger. But if to many of them pop up, it will be the same. I personally like cars that are unique.

Not trying to ruffle any feathers. Just stating my opinion.

I think that as long as the owner is happy with the car, what does it matter what others think? If I ever win the lottery, I will but a 71 HEMI 'cuda and totally turn it into a 70's cruiser complete with aftermarket sunroof, louvers, wide keystones, Pink Floyd T-shirt seat covers and any other crazy 70's stuff I can think of and then dress myself in vintage 70's clothes(if I can find any in my ++++++++++ size :icon_smile_big:) and drive the sh*t out of it. Lots of people would be pissed, but it is my car to do with what I want.   By the way. I really would do that.  :yesnod:

Okay, you say there are over done.. now tell me this how many chargers did they make back in the day and with that they ahd like close to 300 General's built. Now add in the replicas now days there are maybe close to a 1000 give or take a hundred. Now you are saying General Lee's are over done. I don't think they are.  

Now, if you want to complain about them distroying the chargers, just look at how many chargers are seating in old junkyards around the country that are going to get crush because folks didn't want to sell them when they could have. But now are rusted out, plus what about all the chargers that people got stupid in and was drunk and wrack? Yea, I'm pertty sure there are way more then just 200 and somthing that wasn't distoryed on a certain tv show that other folks had kill'd.  

Alot of chargers out there that are rusted out that alot of folks doesn't want to even touch, Duke fans are buying those chargers and making somthing of those chargers and are bringing them back on the road where others didn't want to touch them. And what that charger from being dead? The Dukes of Hazzard saves another charger and yet folks wants to complain about them.  

Dirty Mary Crazy Larry also kill'd a charger, Eat My Dust 2 kill'd a 1970 one, The Fast and Ferious kill'd a 1970 one, Deathproof kill'd afew 69's, Glataior (with Ken Whale) kill'd a 69 (General Lee), The Dukes 05 film kill'd afew. I'm sure they are other films that had 2nd gen chargers get kill'd in them as while.  :shruggy:

Nowhere in my post did I say anything about destruction. I was only saying that I personally think that they are over done. It's like when you go to a major Mopar show and you see line after line of E-bodies that are all done basically stock. It's boring. Make them "your own".

You personally, as well as many others, think it's great to build GL's. There is nothing wrong with that. I simply stated that I personally, as well as many others, think that they have gotten over done and are getting boring.

Granted. Yes, many have been saved by GL fans. Thats awesome. I didn't knock them. They are just boring to me. Chargers are GREAT looking cars as they are and I think some of the extra GL stuff hides the real beauty.

Also, you may want to use the spell check. It's hard to make a valid point when a third of your words are misspelled.

kill'd? why not just type killed? It's easier.
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mikesbbody

Even if I had a 69, I wouldnt make it a GL however, each to his own do what you want with your own car.
Having said that I do feel if your gonna make a GL at least get the year right  :Twocents:

TheGhost

You know what I don't think I've ever seen?  A 69 500 clone.  I'd do one if I had a 69.
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General_01

I would like to know from some of you why it is so fun and easy to tear down another person's car? It just seems to be a waste of time and energy. It is fine to have your opinions when you see things done to cars. Use those opinions to mold how YOU would do YOUR car. If a person asks you what you think of something on their car, then tell them the truth, but don't be a dick about it.

I saw somebody write something a while back and I like it: "Sorry I didn't spend MY MONEY to make MY CAR the way YOU wanted."

This is not about being thin skinned. Everybody that does a car their way knows not everyone is going to like their car. It is just natural. That doesn't mean they want to listen to you pick their car apart at car shows. This is a fun hobby. Always remember, while your tearing someone else's car down, someone could be tearing down your hard work on your car. That is, if you have a car.
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charger_cody

you guys missed my point. The reason i brought this up is because the redneck i bought the car from had paint bought the sticker set bought the horn bought the big ass intena bought and all these thing to dress the 73 up with. Personaly i dont mind that, its the fact that he kept trying to tell me things to do to make it look like a "69", or a "general lee". 

And i had the nerve to say, "NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO TO THIS CAR, IT WILL NEVER BE A "69" OR A "GENERAL LEE"

Im not really a big fan of 2nd gens, but i cant say that they dont look badass murdered out.  :yesnod:

Cody

69*F5*SE

Don't like the 2nd gens   :icon_smile_blackeye:  Don't think I've ever heard anyone say that here.  :slap:  It's alright Cody, I like the 3rd gens too.

SeattleCharger

Quote from: bigred68 on April 25, 2009, 08:13:18 PM
C'mon young'un, variety is the spice of life. Just because you may not care for something, or maybe MANY people don't care for something, doesn't mean that thing isn't special to the person who owns it. Maybe the Dukes was my all time favorite show growing up as a kid, and by happenstance my father was a Mopar guy and owned this pristine gold '73 SE. By the time my father had passed after his lengthy battle with cancer, the Charger, that I have now inherited is in dire need of a complete restoration. Being a person not of great wealth or knowledge of how to do a more concurs correct restoration, I do what any 20 something might do, to honor my father, to remember my childhood with him, I build the nicest General Lee I can with the money and knowledge I have. Yup, I know its not a '69 (not all the series G.L.'s were '69's by the way)Yup, I know its not the nicest body work or paint but, it's mine, was my fathers, and I will love it forever.
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ya, variety is the spice of life.  a 3rd gen charger general lee?  it could be worse.  :scratchchin:

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Why would you want anything else?  Just give me a Charger and I'll be happy.

charger_cody

Quote from: 69*F5*SE on April 26, 2009, 11:22:01 AM
Don't like the 2nd gens   :icon_smile_blackeye:  Don't think I've ever heard anyone say that here.  :slap:  It's alright Cody, I like the 3rd gens too.

Didnt say i dint like the 2nd gens, it just has to have that certain look like these.






MoparManJim

Quote from: C_stripes on April 26, 2009, 12:22:07 AM
Quote from: MoparManJim on April 25, 2009, 10:30:50 PM
Quote from: C_stripes on April 25, 2009, 10:07:41 PM
Quote from: 69charger2002 on April 25, 2009, 08:58:33 PM
i gotta agree though it is wrong to do a 73 into a general.  :eek2:

Personally, I think it is wrong to do any of them a general lee. It is to over done. I would much rather see a DMCL Charger. But if to many of them pop up, it will be the same. I personally like cars that are unique.

Not trying to ruffle any feathers. Just stating my opinion.

I think that as long as the owner is happy with the car, what does it matter what others think? If I ever win the lottery, I will but a 71 HEMI 'cuda and totally turn it into a 70's cruiser complete with aftermarket sunroof, louvers, wide keystones, Pink Floyd T-shirt seat covers and any other crazy 70's stuff I can think of and then dress myself in vintage 70's clothes(if I can find any in my ++++++++++ size :icon_smile_big:) and drive the sh*t out of it. Lots of people would be pissed, but it is my car to do with what I want.   By the way. I really would do that.  :yesnod:

Okay, you say there are over done.. now tell me this how many chargers did they make back in the day and with that they had like close to 300 General's built. Now add in the replicas now days there are maybe close to a 1000 give or take a hundred. Now you are saying General Lee's are over done. I don't think they are.  

Now, if you want to complain about them destroying the chargers, just look at how many chargers are seating in old junkyards around the country that are going to get crush because folks didn't want to sell them when they could have. But now are rusted out, plus what about all the chargers that people got stupid in and was drunk and wrack? Yea, I'm pretty sure there are way more then just 200 and something that wasn't destroyed on a certain TV show that other folks had killed.  

Alot of chargers out there that are rusted out that alot of folks doesn't want to even touch, Duke fans are buying those chargers and making something of those chargers and are bringing them back on the road where others didn't want to touch them. And what that charger from being dead? The Dukes of Hazzard saves another charger and yet folks wants to complain about them.  

Dirty Mary Crazy Larry also killed a charger, Eat My Dust 2 killed a 1970 one, The Fast and Furious killed a 1970 one, Deathproof killed afew 69's, Gladiator (with Ken Whale) killed a 69 (General Lee), The Dukes 05 film killed afew. I'm sure they are other films that had 2ND gen chargers get killed in them as while.  :shruggy:

Nowhere in my post did I say anything about destruction. I was only saying that I personally think that they are over done. It's like when you go to a major Mopar show and you see line after line of E-bodies that are all done basically stock. It's boring. Make them "your own". [/quoute] 

No, but I'm sure at some point you or one of the others would have though. Before someone can say they are over done, you have to see them being driven all the time on the road and every where. So how can a person say they are over done when you hardly see any on the dang road.

QuoteYou personally, as well as many others, think it's great to build GL's. There is nothing wrong with that. I simply stated that I personally, as well as many others, think that they have gotten over done and are getting boring.

Again, before someone can say they are over done, you have to see them being driven all the time on the road and every where. So how can a person say they are over done when you hardly see any on the dang road.

QuoteGranted. Yes, many have been saved by GL fans. Thats awesome. I didn't knock them.

Well at least we agree on something here now.

QuoteThey are just boring to me. Chargers are GREAT looking cars as they are and I think some of the extra GL stuff hides the real beauty.

I agree half way on this one, yes there are very good looking cars and they have style as while unlike stuff now days does. Now The General Lee paint job doesn't hide the beauty at all. What about some of the orange chargers that was factory? they are orange and yet the General was orange :scratchchin:. But what gets me is and can you please explain to me one small part, you say some of the General Lee stuff hides the real beauty, what is the stuff? the stuff isn't all that big. The flag covers the roof but yet we see all kinds of chargers with vinyl roofs and some with metal roofs only. Now if your saying the flag hides it well what about the folks with the vinyl tops. The door decals are not that big either. The antenna is small. The push bar only makes the car look more muscle. I think a charger with the General Lee paint job makes the beauty stand out.

QuoteAlso, you may want to use the spell check. It's hard to make a valid point when a third of your words are misspelled.

killed? why not just type killed? It's easier. 

I for got about spell check last night bud.
Plus there is more ways to spell a word then just one way.