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K&K Charger @ Talladega

Started by CornDogsCharger, March 14, 2009, 09:30:00 PM

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CornDogsCharger

I found this photo on ebay.  Is it the same car that is in the Talladega Museum?  From what it looks like, it appears to possibly have a '70 frontend on the car.  Does anyone know the real story behind the car in the museum?

Justin
"CornDog"

1966 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (DMCL Project)
1969 Dodge Charger (WB General Lee "GL#004")
1969 Dodge Super Bee

Brock Samson

 now that's what i call a stance...  :drool5: thanks fur postin..

CornDogsCharger

When I build my vintage replica, this is the car I plan to build.... as of now. 

Justin
"CornDog"
1966 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (DMCL Project)
1969 Dodge Charger (WB General Lee "GL#004")
1969 Dodge Super Bee

Magnumcharger

It takes a real man to cut into his Charger wheel openings that far!!
Go for it!! :Twocents:
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1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

RTDaddy

The K & K car in the Talladega museum is the original superspeedway car.  I took a bunch of photos, measurements, adn sketches for "Highbanked Hauler" on this board when he was looking at building a clone.  The car inthe pic is the "short track" car, run in 70, 71, and 72, hence the larger wheel openings to minimize tires being cut down from the "frammin and bammin."  The pic may have been taken during a test, as that looks like Rockingham, but that car would not have been used there, either the Daytona(69/70), or the 3rd gen style (71-4) would have run on that track.  From the style of the numbers, that shot is either 1971 or 72.

"IF YOU'RE UNDER CONTROL, YOU AIN'T GOING FAST ENOUGH."
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nascarxx29

I seen the Dan Gaddis daytona .Before and after.looks alot better as a Bobby Isaac replica
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

CornDogsCharger

Here is the auction

http://cgi.ebay.com/1971-Bobby-Isaac-K-K-69-Dodge-Charger-NASCAR-Photo_W0QQitemZ230249764572QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_SM_Fan_Shop?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

It says 1971 Short track car and that it is a '69 model even though it appears more like a '70 model.  I'd like to get a nice collection of these type of pictures started.  I just love old Nascar photos. 

Justin
"CornDog"
1966 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (DMCL Project)
1969 Dodge Charger (WB General Lee "GL#004")
1969 Dodge Super Bee

Aero426

The photo of Isaac's short track car is from Dover Delaware.   You can tell it is Dover by looking at the back side of the pit wall.     

There is a photo I saw last year at Monster Mopar showing the 1970 K & K fleet outside the shop at Charlotte Motor Speedway.    In that photo, there are something like three Daytonas, a couple of 69 Charger 500s and a 70 Charger.    So they had a steady rotation of cars to use.   As to exactly which car did what and when, it can be tough to pin things down because of the number of cars they had.     

I can't say I know the real history of the standard body '69 Charger in the Talladega museum.   It's a older looking chassis.    Why a fully funded team would retain a pre-1968 chassis like this doesn't make sense to me. 




pettybird

Quote from: nascarxx29 on March 15, 2009, 07:38:21 PM
I seen the Dan Gaddis daytona .Before and after.looks alot better as a Bobby Isaac replica

I disagree--that crazy green, purple and red scheme is one of my all time favorites.  not that the car doesn't look kick ass now--

Mike DC

 
Man, that would make a hell of a cool car to build a replica.     




I probably couldn't resist the temptation to give it a '69 front clip though. 

And maybe square off the wheelwells just a little bit more than in this pic.  I like it better how the early red C500/Daytona wind tunnel mule had them.  (I think that particular car started out as the 1968 "2+2" lowered chassis before it became the wind tunnel car?)   Its wheelwells were still heavily cut higher than stock too, but they resembled the stock wheelwell shape a little bit more than the fully rounded ones.


dfan

not too low :coolgleamA:

CornDogsCharger

Could you send me more pictures of the 97 car?  How far were the modifications taken?  Does it still have the stock engine bay? 

Justin
"CornDog"
1966 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (DMCL Project)
1969 Dodge Charger (WB General Lee "GL#004")
1969 Dodge Super Bee

Howie

Look at the distance of the top of the fender well on the K&K car compared to the previous pic. stance really changes things. As for the 2x2 the rear used different spring mount locations and lowereing blocks. I am working on my nascar car now and am finding out old tricks they used everyday. Cotton owens is full of very helpfull and good information.

CornDogsCharger

Hey Howie.  I would love to see more pictures of your car too.  I figure... if I'm gonna build a vintage stock car replica... then it needs to be accurate.  I believe the stance will be one of the most important things on getting the right look. 

Howie, if you don't mind emailing me pictures of your car, my address is corndog05@yahoo.com  Thanks

Justin
"CornDog"
1966 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (DMCL Project)
1969 Dodge Charger (WB General Lee "GL#004")
1969 Dodge Super Bee