Engine Paint Options

[Charger-Bodie]

Thanks guys for all of your input.     PPGRules, excellent post! 

I tried getting the Delstar formula and/or paint code with no luck. I was also hoping as a second alternative to get some of that MP "Resto Hemi Orange" spray paint, but yeah, it's disco'd.
What did I do? I ended up ordering the Eastwood stuff. It is a ceramic-based paint, and is also a urethane & uses a hardener. Good for 650-degrees. I had a 15% discount, & it ended up coming in less than if I bought Delstar. It's not a stock resto, so I'd rather have it nice & shiny vs a little dull as original. It also says priming is not necessary, but I might just prime the oil pan anyway since it is smooth stamped steel. 2-coat coverage as per the can, we'll see. Knowing me, I'll probably give it three anyway.
Keep ya's posted...   

Hardener in engine paint is not a good idea. I have seen a lot of cracked engine paint after a year that has hardener in it.

Ive used hardener in the acrylic enamel on engine Ive sprayed for about 15 years now.

I have seen all of them again at one time or another , none have ever cracked. Infact they still look awesome.

[maxwellwedge]

Maybe the "Canadian" hardener is causing the cracking up here! 

[mauve66]

i thought that 68 and later big blocks used the orange until the 400 replaced the 383 and they went to blue???

that is blue right?? not the turqoiuse of the earlyier 383 blocks???

[maxwellwedge]

67-68 big block "turquoise"

440 HP engine paint (69-71) Orange

Hemi engine paint 66-early 69 Street Hemi Orange - 1'st shade

Hemi engine paint late 69-71 Street Hemi Orange - Last shade

69 340 - Blue......NOT Orange!

[resq302]

Hey Chris,they are the repos from year one,they came that way.Got them for only $227.00,down side is they have a Y1 on the inside of them ,you can just make it out if you stare between the valve cover and manifold.

Paul,

Those are the same manifolds I have on my car.  The coating that Y1 put on them ended up peeling off on me and looked like crap.  I ended up blasting them and used VHT Nu Cast paint on them.

[resq302]

67-68 big block "turquoise"

440 HP engine paint (69-71) Orange

Hemi engine paint 66-early 69 Street Hemi Orange - 1'st shade

Hemi engine paint late 69-71 Street Hemi Orange - Last shade

69 340 - Blue......NOT Orange!

68 - 383s were turquoise
69 - 383s were turquoise (except for the HP version which was street hemi orange)

[maxwellwedge]

67-68 big block "turquoise"

440 HP engine paint (69-71) Orange

Hemi engine paint 66-early 69 Street Hemi Orange - 1'st shade

Hemi engine paint late 69-71 Street Hemi Orange - Last shade

69 340 - Blue......NOT Orange!

68 - 383s were turquoise
69 - 383s were turquoise (except for the HP version which was street hemi orange)

69 - 383 HP is 440 orange

[resq302]

The orange used on the big blocks (383 HPs in 69 and all 440s) was Street Hemi Orange.  Not to be confused with Race Hemi Orange.

[maxwellwedge]

The orange used on the big blocks (383 HPs in 69 and all 440s) was Street Hemi Orange.  Not to be confused with Race Hemi Orange.

There is a BIG difference between Street Hemi Orange and 440 HP Orange. They are not the same orange. This is a documented fact.

[Charger-Bodie]

The orange used on the big blocks (383 HPs in 69 and all 440s) was Street Hemi Orange.  Not to be confused with Race Hemi Orange.

There is a BIG difference between Street Hemi Orange and 440 HP Orange. They are not the same orange. This is a documented fact.

With Maxwellwedge ! the wedge orange is more pale than the hemi orange (either shade)

[resq302]

I guess the old Mopar Perf. catalog was wrong then as that is where I got my info from.  The guy (Hemi John Pierson) who has been rebuilding hemis and all kind of Mopar engines said that is what they used.  Guess I got some wrong info.  The paint on my engine is the old "rainbow can" Mopar Performance street hemi orange which is orange with a little bit of redish tint.  I think the restoration orange was also the same shade.   The new mopar paint has the street hemi orange which has more of a redish orange tint to it compared to the old MP "rainbow" paint.  An exact match to the old Mopar Perf. paint that I am using for touch ups is the VHT Chrysler orange paint now.

[maxwellwedge]

Ya - those Chrysler rattle can colors used to be closer but they kinda migrated to almost a Chevy Orange.  (nothing against Chev's - I have a couple)

The new SRT8 motors are painted old school Street Hemi Orange. Chrysler actually asked Gibson and Badalson for their formula as a favor.

[mauve66]

67-68 big block "turquoise"

440 HP engine paint (69-71) Orange

Hemi engine paint 66-early 69 Street Hemi Orange - 1'st shade

Hemi engine paint late 69-71 Street Hemi Orange - Last shade

69 340 - Blue......NOT Orange!

cool, i plan on getting a 440 stroker but painting it tourquoise and using the 383 decals so those outside the "inner circle will think its still a 383............ he he he he he he

[resq302]

Just hope that no one that sees the engine knows the difference between a 383 block and a 440 block.  Easy way to tell the difference.

[69 OUR/TEA]

Hey Chris,they are the repos from year one,they came that way.Got them for only $227.00,down side is they have a Y1 on the inside of them ,you can just make it out if you stare between the valve cover and manifold.

Paul,

Those are the same manifolds I have on my car.  The coating that Y1 put on them ended up peeling off on me and looked like crap.  I ended up blasting them and used VHT Nu Cast paint on them.

  Good to know Brian,the engine has not been fired up yet,but if it does do what you say,I would take them off blast them clean,followed by glass bead and leave like so.The engine in my black car has the orig manifolds on it,all I did was glass bead them clean,and suprisingly been driving the car and they still look natural.Even if they start to get some surface rust ,I'ts no big deal to take off once and a while and redo.I'll see how long they last for me.

[mauve66]

Just hope that no one that sees the engine knows the difference between a 383 block and a 440 block.  Easy way to tell the difference.

yeah its easy to tell but i really don't think people outside the mopar world would know, hell, when i tell people i have a 66 charger they say " just like the Dukes of Hazzard car??"

then if they come by the house and see the car in the garage they say "what's that?? a SuperBee, Road Runner??"

[MoparGuy]

I'm in the process of painting my engine and am wondering how to paint the valley pan gasket?  Should I be using a primer first???  Suggestions appreciated.
Thanks,
MoparGuy

[maxwellwedge]

I'm in the process of painting my engine and am wondering how to paint the valley pan gasket?  Should I be using a primer first???  Suggestions appreciated.
Thanks,
MoparGuy

Chrysler didn't use primer and neither do I. Let 'er rip! And if it is an HP motor don't use that valley pan insulation crap....I have only ever seen those on low-horse C-Bodies never on an HP.

[Ghoste]

It was in my 68 Road Runner, it had been virtually untouched under the hood before I became it's 2nd owner.

[maxwellwedge]

It was in my 68 Road Runner, it had been virtually untouched under the hood before I became it's 2nd owner.

Sorry - I was talking 375HP 440's. Should have been more specific.

[squeakfinder]

I used three cans of Duplicolor Hemi Orange. I cleaned the block with lacquer thinner, then mineral spirits.