News:

It appears that the upgrade forces a login and many, many of you have forgotten your passwords and didn't set up any reminders. Contact me directly through helpmelogin@dodgecharger.com and I'll help sort it out.

Main Menu

Distributer Issue

Started by Moparbob, January 03, 2009, 08:14:41 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Moparbob

He Guys  :nana:

Is the distributer in the back on a 340? My car was a 340 (never saw the engine) stuck in a 440. The two prong plug that looks like its for the distributer is in the back and the 440 one is up front. Just making sure its the right wire and I guess Ill make a jumper.
Bob Norris
www.moparbob.com

God Bless America.

Ghoste

Yes, the smallblocks are in the back.

Moparbob

Quote from: Ghoste on January 03, 2009, 08:16:56 PM
Yes, the smallblocks are in the back.

Think Auto Zone or one of them might have some of those plugs so I can make me a jumper?  Wait Wait,, don't jump!  :buff:
Bob Norris
www.moparbob.com

God Bless America.

Ghoste

You're just talking about the plug for the electronic dist right?  The plug with a female and male terminal siamesed together?

mikepmcs

Also, Big Blocks fire CCW and small blocks fire CW. Just for reference.

Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

Moparbob

Quote from: mikepmcs on January 03, 2009, 08:24:25 PM
Also, Big Blocks fire CCW and small blocks fire CW. Just for reference.



Your a mind reader  :coolgleamA:  So the distributer turns as shown by the diagram, counter clockwise. Which way does the motor turn looking at the harmonic balancer? Do they turn the same way there? I hope so because I have a 340 starter hooked up and jammed in under the headers  :eek2:
Bob Norris
www.moparbob.com

God Bless America.

Ghoste

You're okay with the starter, the engines turn the same.  If you are looking to get a long enough wire for the distributor to meet the control box, Mopar Performance sells the wire with enough cable to meet your needs and a plug on one end for the ecu and on the other end for the Distributor.

Moparbob

Quote from: Ghoste on January 03, 2009, 08:29:13 PM
You're okay with the starter, the engines turn the same.

Whew, Ok Im putting the Vodka away now  :hah:
Bob Norris
www.moparbob.com

God Bless America.

Ghoste

No no keep the vodka out, just don't drink too much of it before you work on the car.

mikepmcs

then everything will spin the same way... keep one foot on the floor. :2thumbs:
Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

Ghoste

 :smilielol:
The MP part number for that harness is P3690152 (if that is what you need).

Moparbob

Hey I'm gonna tag on stupid question #5364765643554354395680567054670 to this thread,, what size, grade should the torque converter bolts be?

Bob Norris
www.moparbob.com

God Bless America.

mikepmcs

Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

Nacho-RT74

grade 8, and head is 9/16"... so for 9/16" head I think bolt is 5/16" right ?


BTW about wiring IF somebody will keep the 340 then I'd modify the harness... BB to SB modification is PRETTY MUCH EASIER since need just cut wires... reverse operation is harder because needs elongate, splicing up the wires. Temp sender is also longer on BB harnesses.

If making the SB to BB conversion and you want to make a good job without wiring knowledgement I'd advise get the new harness. If you have the wiring repair/splice and propper tools and materials, Knowledgement and patiente make the modification is really easy. Just need to elongate coil, dist and temp sender wires. Sold wires, use shrinking tube, terminals if needed, I simply reused originals since set the splice wire just right in the middle of wires, correct color wires in the splice and correct black tape... Voilá!
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

62 Max

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on January 04, 2009, 11:41:43 AM
grade 8, and head is 9/16"... so for 9/16" head I think bolt is 5/16" right ?


BTW about wiring IF somebody will keep the 340 then I'd modify the harness... BB to SB modification is PRETTY MUCH EASIER since need just cut wires... reverse operation is harder because needs elongate, splicing up the wires. Temp sender is also longer on BB harnesses.

If making the SB to BB conversion and you want to make a good job without wiring knowledgement I'd advise get the new harness. If you have the wiring repair/splice and propper tools and materials, Knowledgement and patiente make the modification is really easy. Just need to elongate coil, dist and temp sender wires. Sold wires, use shrinking tube, terminals if needed, I simply reused originals since set the splice wire just right in the middle of wires, correct color wires in the splice and correct black tape... Voilá!


What you posted is all well and good,"IF" someone takes his Vodka from him. ::)

Ghoste

I'm still thinking that if he wants to work on old cars as a hobby, he'll need the vodka.  Not for before the work of course, but definitely after.  :D

firefighter3931

Bob, the converter bolts are a special part with a shallow/thin head....a regular bolt will not work. If you use a standard fastner the bolt headss will contact the back of the engine block and make quite a racket. Yours should use the smaller 5/16 thread bolts unless the Tq converter is an aftermarket piece.



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

Moparbob

Quote from: firefighter3931 on January 04, 2009, 08:50:02 PM
Bob, the converter bolts are a special part with a shallow/thin head....a regular bolt will not work. If you use a standard fastner the bolt headss will contact the back of the engine block and make quite a racket. Yours should use the smaller 5/16 thread bolts unless the Tq converter is an aftermarket piece.



Ron

Got 4 today,, you forgot to tell me the flex plate aligns to the converter one way   :brickwall:     :smilielol:
Bob Norris
www.moparbob.com

God Bless America.

Ghoste


firefighter3931

Quote from: Moparbob on January 04, 2009, 08:58:11 PM
Quote from: firefighter3931 on January 04, 2009, 08:50:02 PM
Bob, the converter bolts are a special part with a shallow/thin head....a regular bolt will not work. If you use a standard fastner the bolt headss will contact the back of the engine block and make quite a racket. Yours should use the smaller 5/16 thread bolts unless the Tq converter is an aftermarket piece.



Ron

Got 4 today,, you forgot to tell me the flex plate aligns to the converter one way   :brickwall:     :smilielol:


Talk about baptism by fire !  :lol:

Bob, you need to ask questions....we're not mind readers.  :nana:  :smilielol:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

flyinlow

You do have a 440 distributor?

340 won't work

I see your doing a cam breakin .

After you extend the dist. wires to the front, plug the dist, in and spin it with the ignition on and check for a spark.

No sense cranking that new cam for long periods with no spark.

Real men hold the coil wire in their hand! :nana:

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: firefighter3931 on January 04, 2009, 08:50:02 PM
Bob, the converter bolts are a special part with a shallow/thin head....a regular bolt will not work. If you use a standard fastner the bolt headss will contact the back of the engine block and make quite a racket. Yours should use the smaller 5/16 thread bolts unless the Tq converter is an aftermarket piece.



Ron

Dunno up there but down here you can find the torque converter bolts on some hardware stores
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

BB RB and SB dist are completelly diff pieces.

BB and RB just because the shaft lenght

SB because counterweights are designed for diff rotation, vacuum position and of course also shaft lenght,
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Ghoste

A tip for next time; now that the flex plate is on there properly dab some paint across one mounting ear AND the torque converter.  That way, if you ever need to take it apart again the realignment will go a little bit quicker.

Moparbob

Im going to ask the forum staff to create a "Bob" forum of my own  :smilielol:
Bob Norris
www.moparbob.com

God Bless America.