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Pad stamping under distributor

Started by Sixt8Chrgr, December 28, 2008, 10:45:59 PM

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Sixt8Chrgr

My motor was cast Dec 67 and other dates on the car are also Dec 67 but the pad by the distributor just has a D 383 on it. I can not find HP or a R or a date code anywhere. The bottom of the pad is rusty. I have tried to clean it off but have found no stampings. The D 383 is at the top of the pad. Isn't the date the motor was assembled along with the R or HP on the bottom of the pad. Is it uncommon for the motor not to be stamped in this location?
My car is a "H" code car.

Thanks

Ghoste

Not always, see if it's stamped on the flange on the bottom of the block on the passenger side someplace.

ITSA426

I pulled a 383 motor out of a '67 parts car with no date stamp on the distributor pad.  I think the entire pad may have been blank.  After it was out, I found a data plate riveted over a frost plug indicating the engine was remanufactured by Chrysler.   

gers1968rt

The distributor pad isn't always stamped with the date of build. Look on the rear of the engine drivers side where the transmission bolts up for the vin. number, near the oil pressure sender. This number is stamped right on the as cast iron.
I used to own a mopar because it was different, but now I know better.

Sixt8Chrgr

Quote from: Ghoste on December 28, 2008, 11:09:43 PM
Not always, see if it's stamped on the flange on the bottom of the block on the passenger side someplace.
Ok, I have looked there before and found nothing.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: Sixt8Chrgr on December 28, 2008, 10:45:59 PM
My motor was cast Dec 67 and other dates on the car are also Dec 67 but the pad by the distributor just has a D 383 on it. I can not find HP or a R or a date code anywhere. The bottom of the pad is rusty. I have tried to clean it off but have found no stampings. The D 383 is at the top of the pad. Isn't the date the motor was assembled along with the R or HP on the bottom of the pad. Is it uncommon for the motor not to be stamped in this location?
My car is a "H" code car.

Thanks

If it's in a Charger or C body, it won't be stamped HP. As stated above, look on the rail for the 10K assembly date.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

Sixt8Chrgr

Quote from: 69CoronetRT on December 29, 2008, 10:20:38 AM
Quote from: Sixt8Chrgr on December 28, 2008, 10:45:59 PM
My motor was cast Dec 67 and other dates on the car are also Dec 67 but the pad by the distributor just has a D 383 on it. I can not find HP or a R or a date code anywhere. The bottom of the pad is rusty. I have tried to clean it off but have found no stampings. The D 383 is at the top of the pad. Isn't the date the motor was assembled along with the R or HP on the bottom of the pad. Is it uncommon for the motor not to be stamped in this location?
My car is a "H" code car.

Thanks

If it's in a Charger or C body, it won't be stamped HP. As stated above, look on the rail for the 10K assembly date.

It is a Charger. I will look on the rail, but have looked there before and found nothing but will look again.

Thanks

Ghoste

Check it over in several places, there was no hard rule with a guys job depending on getting it right to this.  It was just a number for warranty purposes in a mass produced item and Chrysler sure never meant for us to go searching them out.  ;D

Sixt8Chrgr

Quote from: Ghoste on December 29, 2008, 11:02:21 AM
Check it over in several places, there was no hard rule with a guys job depending on getting it right to this.  It was just a number for warranty purposes in a mass produced item and Chrysler sure never meant for us to go searching them out.  ;D

I will let you know if I find anything. Thanks

Dans 68

1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

Alaskan_TA


Sixt8Chrgr

I have looked everywhere for the VIN on my block and can not locate it anywhere. I guess it never got stamped or I will find it if I ever take the motor out of the car. I have a lift and have looked for it while it was in the air.

Ghoste

I thought you were just looking for a date code.  If you are trying to match numbers it's possible that those numbers are not on a 68.

Dans 68

The vin numbers would not be on a '68 model block. Only the SO number would possibly be on it.

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

Sixt8Chrgr

Thanks guys. Evidently, I would be looking for a long time for the VIN... :smilielol:

I found the date code no problem there.

Thanks! :cheers:

69CoronetRT

Quote from: Dans 68 on December 31, 2008, 09:04:30 PM
The vin numbers would not be on a '68 model block. Only the SO number would possibly be on it.

Dan

Dan, this has been covered here before. While it seems the stampings were inconsistent, VIN's were stamped on blocks. I've yet to see a SO number stamped on a 68 block. Do you have a picture of one?

68, did you look on the back of the block near the oil sending unit? It is possible your block was not stamped.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

Dans 68

Of course you are correct. Got my vin's/SO mixed up.  :brickwall:

Oh well, it is another year. Need to keep the mistakes to a minimum!  :2thumbs:

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

Sixt8Chrgr

Quote from: 69CoronetRT on January 01, 2009, 12:37:21 PM
Quote from: Dans 68 on December 31, 2008, 09:04:30 PM
The vin numbers would not be on a '68 model block. Only the SO number would possibly be on it.

Dan

Dan, this has been covered here before. While it seems the stampings were inconsistent, VIN's were stamped on blocks. I've yet to see a SO number stamped on a 68 block. Do you have a picture of one?

68, did you look on the back of the block near the oil sending unit? It is possible your block was not stamped.
69 Coronet, I thought the VIN was on the block, but just answered quickly without thinking a lot about it.

I have looked on the bellhousing flange and it is not there but my transmission stamping is there. This leads me to believe that the motor might not be original, but the date code matches up. Most of the components are original to the car. The car has 88K original miles on it and I have a ton of documentation. The car is just one of those that appears not have been beat on in the day. The original owner was 49 years old when he bought it and then his son got it when he was in his early 30's. However, you would think that if the transmission was stamped the motor would have been stamped at the same time? Any body out there have the same situation?

The pad stamping by the distributor shows a 1968 383 which is what the car is.

Any other places to look or ways to prove pedigree?

Sixt8Chrgr

Quote from: Sixt8Chrgr on January 01, 2009, 10:13:26 PM
Quote from: 69CoronetRT on January 01, 2009, 12:37:21 PM
Quote from: Dans 68 on December 31, 2008, 09:04:30 PM
The vin numbers would not be on a '68 model block. Only the SO number would possibly be on it.

Dan

Dan, this has been covered here before. While it seems the stampings were inconsistent, VIN's were stamped on blocks. I've yet to see a SO number stamped on a 68 block. Do you have a picture of one?

68, did you look on the back of the block near the oil sending unit? It is possible your block was not stamped.
69 Coronet, I thought the VIN was on the block, but just answered quickly without thinking a lot about it.

I have looked on the bellhousing flange and it is not there but my transmission stamping is there. This leads me to believe that the motor might not be original, but the date code matches up. Most of the components are original to the car. The car has 88K original miles on it and I have a ton of documentation. The car is just one of those that appears not have been beat on in the day. The original owner was 49 years old when he bought it and then his son got it when he was in his early 30's. However, you would think that if the transmission was stamped the motor would have been stamped at the same time? Any body out there have the same situation?

The pad stamping by the distributor shows a 1968 383 which is what the car is.

Any other places to look or ways to prove pedigree?

I said bellshousing I meant transmission flange. Getting my cars mixed up.

Thanks,

bull

Is this an R/T car? What I've heard, and what appears to be the case so far in my limited experience, is that Chrysler put the partial VIN stamping (shown on the flanges in the picture above) on all '68s with 383 hp engines, 440s and 426 Hemis. However, they did not put partial VIN stampings on the '68s with the base or non-hp 383, the 318 or the /6. Did they continue this practice all year? I don't know. I do know '68 was the year a lot of changes were implemented so it's a bit of a crapshoot on certain things.

Sixt8Chrgr

Quote from: bull on January 02, 2009, 05:56:29 AM
Is this an R/T car? What I've heard, and what appears to be the case so far in my limited experience, is that Chrysler put the partial VIN stamping (shown on the flanges in the picture above) on all '68s with 383 hp engines, 440s and 426 Hemis. However, they did not put partial VIN stampings on the '68s with the base or non-hp 383, the 318 or the /6. Did they continue this practice all year? I don't know. I do know '68 was the year a lot of changes were implemented so it's a bit of a crapshoot on certain things.

The car is a 383 with an "H" in the fifth digit of the VIN so it should have the HP 383 motor in it. But it has no stamping on the motor. Also I have the window sticker for the car and the sticker shows that the car had the HP 383 ordered.