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hemigeno's Daytona restoration - a few more tweaks... again!

Started by hemigeno, November 27, 2006, 09:20:01 AM

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Chris G.

Quote from: hemigeno on February 28, 2007, 01:19:18 PM
Chris, the Daytona fenders should all have the brace AFAIK.  I remember watching a video documenting Chris Sauer's 16k mile Daytona getting restored, and they had to replace one of the fender braces since it was missing.

Gene, I know on John's car, he doesn't have the braces. His car was around the 10th or 12th built, and he has the Nascar hood and the tak welded delete plates. I know most did get the braces, but it would be interesting to find out if other early cars didn't have them.

hemigeno

Quote from: Chris G. on March 01, 2007, 07:43:30 PM
Quote from: hemigeno on February 28, 2007, 01:19:18 PM
Chris, the Daytona fenders should all have the brace AFAIK.  I remember watching a video documenting Chris Sauer's 16k mile Daytona getting restored, and they had to replace one of the fender braces since it was missing.

Gene, I know on John's car, he doesn't have the braces. His car was around the 10th or 12th built, and he has the Nascar hood and the tak welded delete plates. I know most did get the braces, but it would be interesting to find out if other early cars didn't have them.

Hmmm...  I thought John's car was actually one of the last cars to be shipped?  Am I thinking of the right John & the right Daytona?

Also, I'm drawing a blank on what you mean by Nascar hood and the delete plates...  Sorry I'm a little slow, it's been a long day at work here...


nascarxx29

Also Johns car has no dealer shipment .Other then dodge executive garage.When I first layed eyes on this car.At a Warnock dodge meet .And seen how entensively this 440 car was optioned.I had to see the buildsheet to believe it.
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

FJMG

I'll try and send this pic. 

Chris G.

Quote from: hemigeno on March 01, 2007, 07:56:09 PM
Also, I'm drawing a blank on what you mean by Nascar hood and the delete plates...  Sorry I'm a little slow, it's been a long day at work here...

I'm not sure what "Nascar Hood" means myslef, but that's what he calls it. His turn signal delete plates are spot welded to the hood. I'm not sure if all Daytona's had them like that? John's is a 4/27 build day.

nascarxx29

There was a big discussion about daytona hoods .My car and other original cars Ive looked at were smooth underside no crash ribs
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

hemigeno

Quote from: FJMG on March 01, 2007, 08:01:50 PM
I'll try and send this pic. 

Wow, thanks for that picture!!!

Do you think that the remnants of the second "1" are still showing on the inner fender?  Sorta looks like it in a way, but it isn't quite in line with the other letters (but looks like it might be the same width/stroke).  That was just a guess I made earlier, but to me it makes more sense to have A11 painted than A1... 

Thanks again for posting that, FJMG!

hemigeno

Quote from: Chris G. on March 01, 2007, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: hemigeno on March 01, 2007, 07:56:09 PM
Also, I'm drawing a blank on what you mean by Nascar hood and the delete plates...  Sorry I'm a little slow, it's been a long day at work here...

I'm not sure what "Nascar Hood" means myslef, but that's what he calls it. His turn signal delete plates are spot welded to the hood. I'm not sure if all Daytona's had them like that? John's is a 4/27 build day.

I think the turn signal delete plates came both ways - spot welded and not.  I'd like to confirm that with some other folks, and also ask which way the majority of cars were made, but I do recall that spot-welding was done on at least some.  I would be really surprised if his hood had the inside supports cut away a la Grand National practice of the day, so maybe he's just referring to the hood stiffening ribs that we always key in on.

That is the car I was thinking of, but it is actually one of the latter ones shipped from Creative.  None of us know which order the cars were converted by Creative Industries, but the usual assumption is that they were converted in about the same order that they were shipped out.  That would put John's car being one of the later conversions.  Even if his car was built on or around 4/27, Creative's target date to start the conversions was in early June - so all but just a few of the Daytona chassis had been made at Hamtramck by the second week in June.

Another interesting tidbit about the cars with VIN's around John's - they are all VERY well optioned.  From what I have seen they have a variety of colors, but the option packages are all eerily similar.  I'm hoping that as my database of Daytona fender tag information grows, I'll be able to see more and more such patterns emerge.

Chris G.

Quote from: hemigeno on March 01, 2007, 08:28:52 PM
That is the car I was thinking of, but it is actually one of the latter ones shipped from Creative. That would put John's car being one of the later conversions.  Even if his car was built on or around 4/27, Creative's target date to start the conversions was in early June - so all but just a few of the Daytona chassis had been made at Hamtramck by the second week in June.
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Eh, what do I know  :shruggy:. I'm a '70 guy  :yesnod:. You can talk to him about it in Carlisle if you are going.  :thumbs:

hemi68charger

Quote from: hemigeno on March 01, 2007, 08:12:16 PM
Quote from: FJMG on March 01, 2007, 08:01:50 PM
I'll try and send this pic. 

Wow, thanks for that picture!!!

Do you think that the remnants of the second "1" are still showing on the inner fender?  Sorta looks like it in a way, but it isn't quite in line with the other letters (but looks like it might be the same width/stroke).  That was just a guess I made earlier, but to me it makes more sense to have A11 painted than A1... 

Thanks again for posting that, FJMG!

Ok, I'm a day-late and dollar short here......... What's the picture of the inner fender area supposed to be showing? Also, you guys are mentioning the delete plates for the hood-mounted turn indicator openings being spot welded and some attached normally with rear support brackets?

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

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Its no problem at all Gene. This gave me this weekend to try to sell some toys and DVD's at a local swap meet instead.

hemigeno

Well, I got a CD in the mail today from Vance with tons more pictures of the progress they're making on my Daytona.  Rather than pic & choose which ones to post and which ones to leave out, I'll post 'em all.  That way you guys [cough]ChargerFan[cough] can't complain...   ;D

There are 65 of them, so at 4 per message it'll take me a bit to get them all up.

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