So what does everyone think the new Fast and the Furious movie will do for us?

[myrtle]

I know the first movie really helped with marking up the Toyota Supras value as well as the 2nd Gen Charger, the same with the dukes movie. Think the 4th upcoming movie which already has a trailer out with a serious charger scene will help us any?

[Khyron]

make me vomit?

[WingCharger]

Make Chargers so expensive I wont have a chance to buy one until another movie draws attention away from mopars.

[Brock Samson]

  spawn multiple threads?..

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,47959.0.html

[Death1970Proof]

Im guessing it could go either way 

But I will say this. Id hate to think another '70 charger will get demolished but on the other hand it's nice to see a '70 charger get a little recognition 

[Mike DC]

I don't think the movies have had drastic effects on the values of these cars.  At least not the flicks that were made in the last 10-20 years anyway.

The 1970 Charger had plenty of value before F&F#1 and it has gone up in similar rates to all the other Chargers Mopars since then.



The 2005 DOH movie might have had more impact if it was a decent show, but it wasn't.  It was so badly recieved that even the toy companies quickly went back to picturing only the original cast members on their DOH merchandise.   The movie hardly added to the franchise's fan base.  People are still into DOH almost entirely because of the old TV series. 

 

[terrible one]

Make Chargers so expensive I wont have a chance to buy one until another movie draws attention away from mopars.

How much money do you have ready to plop down on a Charger?

[G-man]

all it will do is get those stupid young kids (im 25) to get out in there rice mobiles n drive like idiots.

Thats what happened with faf and faf2. No skylines supras etc on the road. Movie comes out, every day all u see is skylines n supras.

Never seen muscle cars get out, still dont see them. Its just gonna cause police to work overtime and ofcourse being young and stupid without real knowledge how to drive fast, more accidents.

Value?

No.

[Ghoste]

Help the sale of giant sized and hideous looking homemade wings, undercar neon lighting, huge fart can exhaust tips, and teach kids that speaking hip-hop is good.

[1969chargerrtse]

Here's a thought.  Even though overall my concern for my car is really about my love and respect for it, and wanting one since 1969.  I do worry when one day I will have to sell it, that it could no longer be of interest to many therefore of less value .  What I mean is, the market for cars like the model A have decreased compared to 20 years ago as most people that were into those cars have passed.  Most of us buy these cars as adults because of what we remember as kids.  I know the Dukes era helped, those kids from back then aren't even old yet ( I still get Yeee haaa coments at shows just because it's orange ).  Maybe movies like this will just bring on another generation of Charger lovers that will extend the value for theses cars another 20 plus years?  Any of that makes sense.    My morning coffee hasn't kicked in yet. 

[WingCharger]

Make Chargers so expensive I wont have a chance to buy one until another movie draws attention away from mopars.

How much money do you have ready to plop down on a Charger?

Depends on when I find one.

[Chad L. Magee]

Here's a thought.  Even though overall my concern for my car is really about my love and respect for it, and wanting one since 1969.  I do worry when one day I will have to sell it, that it could no longer be of interest to many therefore of less value .  What I mean is, the market for cars like the model A have decreased compared to 20 years ago as most people that were into those cars have passed.  Most of us buy these cars as adults because of what we remember as kids.  I know the Dukes era helped, those kids from back then aren't even old yet ( I still get Yeee haaa coments at shows just because it's orange ).  Maybe movies like this will just bring on another generation of Charger lovers that will extend the value for theses cars another 20 plus years?  Any of that makes sense.    My morning coffee hasn't kicked in yet. 

I think that there is a huge difference between a Model A and a Dodge Charger.  Model As were just basic transportation for the masses when they were made and gained some popularity later on when they became used to make hot rods in the 50s-60s (to some they are still sought after for that).  Dodge Chargers have always been popular since they were new.  Yes, there may have been a period in the mid-70s where they were "just used cars", but that led into the DMCL/DOH era that changed alot of things, one being more exposure to the future generations on film.  Chargers have alot more going for them than the Model As ever did, one being timeless styling, something Model As were not known for.  How many old folks do you think lusted after the looks of a Model A?  (Not that many from the ones I have talked to, most wanted the cars after WWII.)  The major problem with keeping the image of Chargers alive with newer generations is that the number on the roads is dwindling over time, which is a shame.  The best way to gain more interest in our hobby is to help newer generations experience the past first hand on the road (no, I am not advocating street races, but an occational cruise around the area) with them in the passingers seat.  Eventually, people will have to go to a museum to see one in person, if we just let them rest too much in the garage/storage shed/field/etc and they become forgotten icons.  That would lead into the situation that you most fear.....

[Chad L. Magee]

As for F&F IV, I think it will just cause alot more kids to think that they could pick up a similar Charger and become the new king of the street on their budget (just not going to happen).  What I hate about that is that the majority of the F&F fans do not have a clue how expensive Chargers (or other vintage musclecars) are to buy and/or restore.  During the first three movies, I got alot of "Do you want to sell one of your Chargers? I'll offer you $500-1,000 for one.", to which I would reply "Sure, which wheel off of one do you want for that amount?".  This situation will probably continue with the next film.  I am not trying to slam the younger generation collectors who are genuinely interested in Chargers (I know there are quite a few on here), just the ones trying to get the "hip" thing without realizing how much they really cost.  If they do find one within their budget (usually the price I mentioned), I can see some of them giving up on the project simply due to the amount of time/money that they would have to invest to get it where they want it to.  A lot of them do not understand that a shortcut in a restoration will end up costing multiples of what it would be to fix it correctly the first time, so the ones they fix will potentally become cobbled messes on the road (which are potentially dangerous).  When they do this, it ruins their opinion of the hobby and another project becomes hard to bring back.  So, the main effect is that the demand goes up (more people wanting to buy your car), but the majority wanting them just don't have the money to buy them right away........

[1969chargerrtse]

Here's a thought.  Even though overall my concern for my car is really about my love and respect for it, and wanting one since 1969.  I do worry when one day I will have to sell it, that it could no longer be of interest to many therefore of less value .  What I mean is, the market for cars like the model A have decreased compared to 20 years ago as most people that were into those cars have passed.  Most of us buy these cars as adults because of what we remember as kids.  I know the Dukes era helped, those kids from back then aren't even old yet ( I still get Yeee haaa coments at shows just because it's orange ).  Maybe movies like this will just bring on another generation of Charger lovers that will extend the value for theses cars another 20 plus years?  Any of that makes sense.    My morning coffee hasn't kicked in yet. 

I think that there is a huge difference between a Model A and a Dodge Charger.  Model As were just basic transportation for the masses when they were made and gained some popularity later on when they became used to make hot rods in the 50s-60s (to some they are still sought after for that).  Dodge Chargers have always been popular since they were new.  Yes, there may have been a period in the mid-70s where they were "just used cars", but that led into the DMCL/DOH era that changed alot of things, one being more exposure to the future generations on film.  Chargers have alot more going for them than the Model As ever did, one being timeless styling, something Model As were not known for.  How many old folks do you think lusted after the looks of a Model A?  (Not that many from the ones I have talked to, most wanted the cars after WWII.)  The major problem with keeping the image of Chargers alive with newer generations is that the number on the roads is dwindling over time, which is a shame.  The best way to gain more interest in our hobby is to help newer generations experience the past first hand on the road (no, I am not advocating street races, but an occasional cruise around the area) with them in the passingers seat.  Eventually, people will have to go to a museum to see one in person, if we just let them rest too much in the garage/storage shed/field/etc and they become forgotten icons.  That would lead into the situation that you most fear.....

O.K forget the model A, pick another car if you wish but hobbies do change with the times.  Baseball cards, comic books?  I agree the Charger styling is timeless and probably will be one of the classics that will always be sought out.  I took my charger to a friends house this past Sat and 2 fourteen year olds that saw it in my friends driveway almost needed oxygen to keep  standing up.  They were blown away with the looks and sound.  That was a refreshing feeling indeed.

[Dodge Don]

Anything that makes the price of Chargers go up is okay with me. Just being honest.

[moparstuart]

Anything that makes the price of Chargers go up is okay with me. Just being honest.

  Thats cool if you own all the chargers you ever want to own , but if your a horder like me I like them cheaper . 

[Brock Samson]

well the exposure is good in any case...
I had four different kids stop and ask me what kinda car it was in the last two days... these are grammer school kids approx. 8-10 years old...
several others stopped and said they liked it with out asking questions, one kid did ask "How fast is it?" I said "it isn't fast, but it's really quick" I could tell he went away thinking about that...   

The Garbage men today stopped by this AM and said right away,.. "440?"   

So the kids will get schooled as time goes by,.. I have a lunch date today, the 300 M is having the windshield and suspension bits done so for a week i been cruising the R/T exclusively... at lunch yesterday an older broad (no not a MILF)    was waiting by the car when i returned, she said "I just wanted to see who was driving this". then she proceeded to tell me about her '74 SE that was T-boned several years ago, she had fond memories of her Charger.
  Anyhow, we don't know the fate of this charger in the movie, perhaps that will have a bearing on how the newer viewers respond and remember our "Classics".   
The car is a freaking celebrity I meet more folks this way, 'n they really do get enthused. It's fun! 
Ain't that what hobbies are supoosed to be?.

[Joshua]

  What I mean is, the market for cars like the model A have decreased compared to 20 years ago as most people that were into those cars have passed. 

You don't get out much do you? Model A prices are climbing....sure, restored ones are a good deal, but projects are climbing like crazy, as '32-34's are bringing BIG $$$, which raises prices of lesser models. Most of the people that are into these cars HAVE NOT passed.

And as far as what will a dumb movie due "for us"? What the hell does that even mean anyway??? If you're here, most likey you've got a Charger, right?
Go work on or drive the sumbitch......... Worrying about what a movie will "do to you" is kinda ridiculous.........

[tan top]

Help the sale of giant sized and hideous looking homemade wings, undercar neon lighting, huge fart can exhaust tips, and teach kids that speaking hip-hop is good.

    good one Ghoste    true   

[Chargen69]

  What I mean is, the market for cars like the model A have decreased compared to 20 years ago as most people that were into those cars have passed. 

You don't get out much do you? Model A prices are climbing....sure, restored ones are a good deal, but projects are climbing like crazy, as '32-34's are bringing BIG $$$, which raises prices of lesser models. Most of the people that are into these cars HAVE NOT passed.

And as far as what will a dumb movie due "for us"? What the hell does that even mean anyway??? If you're here, most likey you've got a Charger, right?
Go work on or drive the sumbitch......... Worrying about what a movie will "do to you" is kinda ridiculous.........

[Rolling_Thunder]

All I know is my Charger is going to go to the premier and show the little ricey guys how to do real burnouts...      Did this last time and the cops merely clapped and gave thumbs up...     then gave ricers tickets     

[1969chargerrtse]

  What I mean is, the market for cars like the model A have decreased compared to 20 years ago as most people that were into those cars have passed. 

You don't get out much do you? Model A prices are climbing....sure, restored ones are a good deal, but projects are climbing like crazy, as '32-34's are bringing BIG $$$, which raises prices of lesser models. Most of the people that are into these cars HAVE NOT passed.

And as far as what will a dumb movie due "for us"? What the hell does that even mean anyway??? If you're here, most likely you've got a Charger, right?
Go work on or drive the sumbitch......... Worrying about what a movie will "do to you" is kinda ridiculous.........

I get out a lot and usually I take the charger.  When I was at the friends house we were talking about this exact subject and he was telling exactly what I wrote.  He has friend that said his Model A was worth 40k at one time and now he was lucky to move it for 20K.  This conversation was just a week ago.  They also said the market isn't there anymore for these cars like it used to be because " people that were into these cars way back when are dying off".  Hey, that's what I'm hearing.    As long as I'm not dying that's all that matters for now.

[Joshua]

Is your freind's Model A a streetrod? Street rods are easily outdated, so they don't hold their value very well, and no stock Model A is worth 40K....unless it's a "Historically significant" hotrod from the past.....or possibly a perfectly restored, rare model. But, Model A bodies are going UP in price, as more people are building "traditional" hotrods....If you're not into this kinda stuff, you'd never know it.... 
Having X amount of money tied up into a car doesn't set it's worth....you can put 20G's into a mid 70's 4 door Nova, but it ain't a 20K car....same goes for Model A's....

[Mike DC]

 
Pre-WWII cars aren't really comparable to post-WWII cars. 



A 32 Ford is cool and everything to me personally, but to most modern kids it looks like a horse-and-buggy throwback that they'd only ever drive for sh*t and giggles. 

Post-WWII cars basically have engine bays & interiors & chassis large enough to use like a modern car.  You can swap modern parts into them.  They're big enough to drive on modern roads without feeling like you're gonna die if you get hit.   They're weatherproof enough to use all year round.  They're new/large enough to look cool to anyone when they're styled right. 

 

[WingCharger]

I really hate the fact that I actually get crap everyday from kids who drive ricers, or dream of driving ricers, for liking MoPars and other muscle cars instead of ricers.

Wearing pants to their knees, saying the Civic with a wing nearly the height of a Daytona with a body kit sticking out two feet on each side, covered in Primer, bondo, and Dollar General Rattle can orange could beat a Hemi. I dont start this, and I never plan on street racing, but still. There is a Civic driving around my town with a License plate cover, that says "Aint Scared of no Hemi". I laugh when I see it. 

Now, ricers are a lot easier to find and afford than a old MoPar, but thats not to say they are better! I met a kid in one of my kids, he was a Sophomre, who was really into 2001 Mustangs, and was getting ready to buy one. He saw me reading one of my Mopar magazines, and asked to read it. A few days later, he had read every one of my magazines, and is now talking about building a 500 clone! I saved one. He is still going to buy a 2001 Mustang, but is just drive it, and save money for a Mopar.