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warranty block hemi's

Started by mustanghater, October 17, 2005, 02:28:23 PM

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mustanghater

this guy that drag races mopars by me says he has a warranty block hemi that he got with a car he bought. He says that its from 73. The engine needs rebuilt but he said he'd sell it to me for $5,000. The thing is i don't have that kind of money.My father has wanted to rebuild a hemi for a long time and he said that he'd buy it for a project this winter.Is $5,000 a good price for a hemi that needs rebuilt?
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andy74

sounds like bullshit to me-they didnt put a hemi into any car in 73

mustanghater

this car has one. They were made to replace hemis the were still on the warranty.Go down to the second pic of the orange cuda.
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hemigeno

Hemi's only came with a 12 month, 12,000 mile warranty.  The last Hemi's would have rolled off the assembly line in the summer of 1971.  The warranty clock does start ticking when the car is sold though (that came into play on my Daytona), not when it rolls off the assembly line.  It is very doubtful that Chrysler was so concerned about having warranty blocks for late-selling 1971 model cars that they kept the foundry orders going nearly a year after the normal warranty period would have expired.

I can't say that there were NEVER any Hemi blocks cast in 1973, but they would not have been for warranty purposes.  Perhaps for drag strip use, marine or industrial (I think Industrial blocks had a different part number - 2658836).  The parts books only list street Hemi blocks through 1971.  There are (of course) no pictures in the advertisement.  You can say about anything you want, but I'd need a whole lot more proof before buying into what they're saying.

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mustanghater

I wouldn't want to get ripped off. next time I see him I'll ask him more about it. he was going to build it for raceing.
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89MOPAR

 Is it a bare block only ?    or an actual "long Block"  with pistons, heads, oil pan, camshaft, valvegear,heads, etc.

YOu can buy a Hemi longblock / complete motor through Mopar Performance for $10K upwards [ rough price estimate ]

if it is just an empty block, by the time you buy all the parts needed to fill it / attach to it, you'll be beyond $10K with his $5K asking price.

Unless you have a 71 Hemi car, or for some reason another Hemi car that you specifically want a "replacement block" for, why bother ?

Doesn't sound as if you'll be affording a full dress restoration on your own, - not yet anyway.
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mustanghater

I want to get an engine and build it to my specks then I'd like to find a 70 charger to put it in.
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Troy

Get the car first. I know a little about the engine in that ad but not about the one you are talking about buying. Building a Hemi in any way is not a cheap undertaking and you're better off (in my opinion) having the car and spending money on it before messing with changing the engine. $5k would be a decent price if the engine is complete and usable. The problem is that most race engines are far from usable by the time the owner wants to sell.

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mustanghater

It hasn't been turned into a race engine yet.I don't know how to say it but its on the chopping block its for sale at track events if people ask but we've known him for a long time.
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cudaken

Quote from: MustangHater on October 17, 2005, 02:28:23 PM
this guy that drag races mopars by me says he has a warranty block hemi that he got with a car he bought. He says that its from 73.

MustangHater, did he say the Hemi was made in 73, or he bought the Car with the Hemi in 73?

Unless the heads are cracked, block is .070 over and cracked and crank is junk I would say it is worth $5000.00 with tin.

I will say, $5000.00 is cheap for Hemi that is not junk. I did not read all of the post, but what I did read lead me to think people thought he meant that the Hemi was made in 73.

MustangHater, I am 95% sure you know wht a 426 Hemi looks like. Just made sure and print out a PIC as well! I drove 250 miles to look at a 318 POLY and 125 miles to look at a 352 Hemi. Some people have no clue to what they have and 85% they think they have something they don't.

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mustanghater

trust me I know what a hemi is. I'd like to buy a engine first because we don't have the room for a car right now.I'd like to build the engine and find the car later. I need something else to work on next year. I think I can finish the dakota buy the end of summer.Then I'll sell it. It just needs put back together. I'll try to find a cheap charger body and then do the work in class.
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cudaken

 Hate to sound like a dick, but you know where the DIST is on a 426, just like a 440 and 383's. That is what I was told by the guy with the 352 Hemi said. Well it was a Hemi, but DIST was in the back.

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mustanghater

I know some parts of engine's but i'm still learnig about others. I've always been an interior person.I've installed seat covers and things like that but when it comes to engine's I'm outa their.
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Troy

Maybe no one read my first post... that's ok, I'm used to it.

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Brock Samson

M.H. i dunno i think if ya don't know the difference between buy and by and specs or specks your in over your head allready..  :icon_smile_wink: let your dad get his own projects...

Charger_Fan

Quote from: Troy on October 17, 2005, 07:30:43 PM
Maybe no one read my first post... that's ok, I'm used to it.
You posted before? :D




I think it's time for 'Hater to buy a DIGITAL CAMERA & include at least ONE picture with each new thread of this nature, or don't post...

...geez, for all we know, he's looking at a BOSS 429! :lol:

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hemigeno

Quote from: Troy on October 17, 2005, 07:30:43 PM
Maybe no one read my first post... that's ok, I'm used to it.

Troy


What is the story with the engine in that orange car, Troy?

Inquiring minds want to know...

hotrod98

Cudaken,
I can relate to what you're saying. I've had many experiences with guys that thought that they had a 426 hemi.
I always ask them "is the distributor in the front or the back?" It has saved me hundreds of miles of useless driving.


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cudaken

 Tory, or should I say Troy. Yes I saw your post, and he would kill him self with a Hemi, but I think before he got it bulit a stroke would happen. ;) More than likely his dad, he is still young.

If it is not junk, he could flip for $7500.00 in a matter of days, that is the only reason I said to buy it.

Hotrod98, yes I asked that question. Seems the Dumb F--ks did not know one end from the other. Oh man the water pump was off and I did not know which end it was on man. Got that from both want to be sellers. Both had a J fired up when I got there.

Don't use drugs, other wise you could hane a 318 Hemi. :icon_smile_approve:

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694spdRT

Did you get that convertible Dakota then? What about the Aussie Charger... ???

I would follow Troy's advice. Find a car first, worry about finding a Hemi for it later. Unless you have a very healthy budget Hemi's are generally not the way to go.   
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Chargerguy74

Find the car first....trust me, I learnt the hard way and built my engine first.
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mustanghater

we want a father and son project this winter
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Blown70

Quote from: MustangHater on October 18, 2005, 08:30:39 PM
we want a father and son project this winter


Well the hemi is gunna be expensive so you can buy that and do it up and sit and look at it.  Unless your father is Bill Gates..... You will be spending some serious dough.

Have you looked into paint, engine parts and rebuild, interior, Plus ALL THE MISC. crap that comes up.

FORGET THE HEMI or BUY ONE that is DONE.  And DO get the car first.  worry about a MOTOR later.

BTW, HLPAG loves those father son projects... just ask them :rotz:

Mopar Madness

 Contact Charlie at this e-mail. hemidart@hotmail.com.   Charlie is a retired engine designer with Chrysler/Dodge and one of the elite few who did the Hemi-engines. He is loaded with correct information and still builds the Hemi engines for customers. Tell him Keith from Kreative customs give you the address.
This way you will know for sure.........Good Luck.