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What is wrong in this picture, interior on a car that is for sale

Started by AZ-Nick, May 11, 2008, 09:44:58 PM

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AZ-Nick

May 11, 2008, 09:44:58 PM
just a quick question or two.....

Not owning a 68-70 Charger for over 35 years, I don't know what is right or wrong any more.
Look at this picture and tell me what is not right about it, this was just sent to me on a car that is for sale.
XP29NOG is the vin.

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69bronzeT5

#1
May 11, 2008, 09:51:54 PM
I dont know much about 70s..but it looks right to me..


Wait, does it have a column ignition?? I thought Chargers had dash ignitions..
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1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
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1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
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472 R/T SE

#2
May 11, 2008, 09:56:56 PM
Besides the obvious door panel and radio.  No reverse light on the lower dash pad, wrong shifter.  Don't know what else I might be missing.

Ignition and hazard switch are on the column where they're supposed to be.

AZ-Nick

#3
May 11, 2008, 10:00:32 PM
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on May 11, 2008, 09:56:56 PM
Besides the obvious door panel and radio.  No reverse light on the lower dash pad, wrong shifter.  Don't know what else I might be missing.

Ignition and hazard switch are on the column where they're supposed to be.

exactly what I was seeing or not seeing, the reverse light not there and the wrong shifter.
I did email the seller about the red color, asking him if the car was original in Red instead of the current black, waiting to hear back.

Are 4 speed 500 models special in any way or is it just a run of the mill Charger?
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472 R/T SE

#4
May 11, 2008, 10:18:06 PM
Swiped from the Registry:  http://1970chargerregistry.com/Production/500_8cyl.html

D13 3 Speed Transmission With 383-4bbl    109 built   0.4%
D21 A833 4 Speed Transmission With 318-2bbl    81 built   0.3%
D21 A833 4 Speed Transmission With 383-4bbl   1,335 built   4.9%

Close to 2000 440-4, 440-6, 426 R/T's with a 4 gear so it's rarer than it's performance counterpart.  I think a good deal of them have been converted to R/T clones so it's refreshing to see one original.  Price-wise, I think they hold their own with the 4 gear commanding a better price than a similarly optioned 727  :Twocents:

charge-it

#5
May 12, 2008, 10:39:04 AM
It looks like it has an early b-body four speed floor hump in it.
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Nacho-RT74

#6
May 12, 2008, 11:29:54 AM
Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on May 11, 2008, 09:51:54 PM
I dont know much about 70s..but it looks right to me..


Wait, does it have a column ignition?? I thought Chargers had dash ignitions..

no since 70. On 70 all mopars ignition switch were moved to column
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Nacho-RT74

#7
May 12, 2008, 11:35:15 AM
Quote from: charge-it on May 12, 2008, 10:39:04 AM
It looks like it has an early b-body four speed floor hump in it.

Well, I don't know really about, but definitelly that looks some weird
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Charger-Bodie

#8
May 12, 2008, 11:36:17 AM
Quote from: charge-it on May 12, 2008, 10:39:04 AM
It looks like it has an early b-body four speed floor hump in it.

Definitely looks like a 62-65 floor hump to me as well .  :Twocents: mostly cause of the additional hump on the passenger side of the tunnel.
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AZ-Nick

#9
May 12, 2008, 11:47:14 AM
Quote from: 1hot68 on May 12, 2008, 11:36:17 AM
Quote from: charge-it on May 12, 2008, 10:39:04 AM
It looks like it has an early b-body four speed floor hump in it.

Definitely looks like a 62-65 floor hump to me as well .  :Twocents: mostly cause of the additional hump on the passenger side of the tunnel.

I was wondering if anyone was going to mention the hump, at first I thought maybe the carpet was out of shape then I noticed the lack of the reverse lamp and last I noticed is the shifter looks to be offset to the right about 3 inches!
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moparchris

#10
May 12, 2008, 12:53:54 PM
My first guess is, maybe it was an automatic car that has been converted to a 4 speed.  Ask them if it has a fender tag and then you'll be certain.  D21=4 speed D32= auto

Dave22443

#11
May 12, 2008, 03:02:10 PM
Besides what has already been mentioned:

The seat doesn't look right to me and the cover under the stearing wheel is missing.  Wrong wipers too  :icon_smile_big:

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red bull

#12
May 12, 2008, 04:21:53 PM
Maybe the 3-speed shifter hump was different from the 4-speed hump. :shruggy:

Dave22443

#13
May 12, 2008, 04:41:13 PM
I could be wrong on this (I'm no expert) but I think all 3-speeds were column shift.

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AZ-Nick

#14
May 12, 2008, 04:56:36 PM
Well I asked for a picture of the fender tag and he is looking for it, he removed it and it may be at his parents home in a different state......
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IowaCharger69

#15
May 12, 2008, 05:25:14 PM
make sure that this car isn't in Owasso Ok...

71_Charger_R/T

#16
May 12, 2008, 06:05:09 PM
Just curious. Something you 2nd gen. experts would know..... Was the radio opening on a '70 the same as a '69? The '70s had dual knobs as opposed to the thumbwheels. Is the only difference the faceplate?   :shruggy:

pettyfan43

#17
May 12, 2008, 06:53:55 PM
Quote from: 71_Charger_R/T on May 12, 2008, 06:05:09 PM
Just curious. Something you 2nd gen. experts would know..... Was the radio opening on a '70 the same as a '69? The '70s had dual knobs as opposed to the thumbwheels. Is the only difference the faceplate?   :shruggy:

Yep I believe it is

A383Wing

#18
May 12, 2008, 09:05:22 PM
Our 70 had the dual knobs.....

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69charger2002

#19
May 12, 2008, 10:21:56 PM
Quote from: Dave22443 on May 12, 2008, 04:41:13 PM
I could be wrong on this (I'm no expert) but I think all 3-speeds were column shift.


i had one of the 109 383 3 speed 70 chargers, it was manual on the floor. not column.. by the way that hump looks pretty similar to the 3 speed manual one i had
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