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[General_01]

No suspension for Gordon. $100K fine and docked 25 points.


http://www.nascar.com/news/121112/nascar-penalizes-jgordon-cbowyer-bkeselowski/index.html

[thedodgeboys]

NASCAR Issues Penalties From Sunday's Event at Phoenix: NASCAR announced penalties to three teams that compete in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series, as a result of rule infractions at Phoenix International Raceway.
Jeff Gordon, driver of the #24 car, was found to be in violation of Sections 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing)  altercation with another competitor on the race track during the race  and has been fined $100,000, docked 25 championship driver points and put on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31. Rick Hendrick, owner of the #24 car, has also been penalized with the loss of 25 championship owner points. Alan Gustafson, crew chief of the #24 car, also was found to be in violation of Section 9-4A (at all events, crew chief assumes responsibility of his driver, car owner and team members) and has been placed on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31.
Brian Pattie, crew chief of the #15 car, violated Sections 12-1 and 9-4A and has been fined $25,000 and placed on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31.
Brad Keselowski, driver of the #2 car, has been fined $25,000 and placed on probation until Dec. 31 for violating Sections 12-1 and 20-6.7A (cars and drivers will not be permitted to carry onboard computers, automated electronic recording devices, electronically actuated devices, power distribution modules, power conditioners, micro-processors, recording devices, electronic digital memory chips, traction control devices, digital readout gauges and the like, even if inoperable or incomplete)  driver had a cell phone in his possession onboard the race car. All of these violations occurred during the Nov. 11 event at PIR.


Pretty crazy... I thought Nascar approved of Brads phone tweeting

Brad Keselowski, driver of the #2 car, has been fined $25,000 and placed on probation until Dec. 31 for violating Sections 12-1 and 20-6.7A (cars and drivers will not be permitted to carry onboard computers, automated electronic recording devices, electronically actuated devices, power distribution modules, power conditioners, micro-processors, recording devices, electronic digital memory chips, traction control devices, digital readout gauges and the like, even if inoperable or incomplete)  driver had a cell phone in his possession onboard the race car.

[JB400]

Damn, Brad penalized for tweeting.  That's nuts.  Just a driver pleasing the fans.

[thedodgeboys]

t least it wasn't points for Brad that would suck

[Indygenerallee]

Brad Keselowski, driver of the #2 car, has been fined $25,000 and placed on probation until Dec. 31 for violating Sections 12-1 and 20-6.7A (cars and drivers will not be permitted to carry onboard computers, automated electronic recording devices, electronically actuated devices, power distribution modules, power conditioners, micro-processors, recording devices, electronic digital memory chips, traction control devices, digital readout gauges and the like, even if inoperable or incomplete)  driver had a cell phone in his possession onboard the race car. All of these violations occurred during the Nov. 11 event at PIR.

That is really retarded.

[41husk]

Im guessing Brads fine was more for Negative NASCAR post race comments than cell phone use during red flag time

[TruckDriver]

Well, at least they didnt dock points from Brad too, and basically gave Johnson the championship.

[odcics2]

Im guessing Brads fine was more for Negative NASCAR post race comments than cell phone use during red flag time

yes - he was too honest for them to take it lightly...   How many add up to $25K ??      

[odcics2]

Next Sundays race...

[chargerboy69]

No suspension for Gordon. $100K fine and docked 25 points.


http://www.nascar.com/news/121112/nascar-penalizes-jgordon-cbowyer-bkeselowski/index.html

I feel that is a fair fine.  $100,000 even to Jeff is a chunk of change.

[41husk]

Sitting him would cost more than that    ESPN even talked about Brad tweeting and showed video of it with all the other drivers standing around laughing after the track dryer wreck when they were red flagged.  But now it is a problem

[wingcar]

Brad had better watch out for Jeff and steer clear......with all the bad blood between him and Clint Bowyer from Phoenix Brad could be caught up in something on the track not of his doing.....

NASCAR should have parked Jeff for what he did, although I knew they wouldn't....the fines are a joke...And placed on probation until the end of the year....hello NASCAR, next week's race is the last for the year......does this mean if Jeff takes out Clint on the freeway, he'll be in trouble with NASCAR?
 
It appears to me that Jeff just can't stand not being driver number one for his team any longer now that Jimmie is winning everything.  It's been a bad year for Jeff as he can't seem to get a break.  What you are seeing is a meltdown of a champion from being very frustrated.....Having said that...there is no excuse for what he did......none!

[JB400]

Jeff has been at it for 20 years now.  He's almost to the end of his career.  I can understand that he wants to end it on high note.  But, with JJ, he created his own monster.  I wouldn't be surprised if Jeff hangs up the helmet in the next 5-10 years.
That'll let Trevor Bayne take over the 24.  He'd do a real good job.

[41husk]

I know Brad only needs a top 15 to clintch but should drive to win.  Thats what got him to this point

[thedodgeboys]

I know Brad only needs a top 15 to clintch but should drive to win.  Thats what got him to this point

It's actully easier than that, he just needs to be no more than 10 to 12 spots behind the 48 at the end of the day  the 15 place is if the 48 gets max points on the day  So if the 48 pits so does the 2 if the 48 runs mid pack the 2 can coast to the championship. Most years that's how it goes down lst year was the exception to the rule.

I'm still in shock that NASCAR may let Dodge win the cup tittle and not be around next year....

[JB400]

Dodge may not be back next year, but I expect them back for 14.  If they can get a championship for Penske, they sure as heck can get a championship with another team.

[thedodgeboys]

Dodge may not be back next year, but I expect them back for 14.  If they can get a championship for Penske, they sure as heck can get a championship with another team.

But who?

unless Dodge starts building the motors no top team is available to switch. maybe Gibbs??? 

[odcics2]

Dodge may not be back next year, but I expect them back for 14.  If they can get a championship for Penske, they sure as heck can get a championship with another team.

But who?

unless Dodge starts building the motors no top team is available to switch. maybe Gibbs??? 

You never know.  In the late 60s you would be surprised how many engines were built by Chrysler Engineering for all the Nascar teams!

[472 R/T SE]

Brad's no dummy.  If you notice when Bowyer got clipped Brad had backed way off & didn't want to be close to the 2 dummies.

I imagine @ Homestead his crew chief & spotter will be letting him know where the two of them are at all times.


If you've noticed, Jeff has had a chip on his shoulder ever since Hendrick changed around all the crews & crew chiefs except for the #48.  It really had to chap his ass that Jr. got his old crew.  Hendrick is really going out of his way to get Jr. a championship & I don't think that's sitting too well.

[JB400]

I think it started when Chad fired his crew and requested the 24 crew that one race.  ( I forget which one, it happened a few years ago.)  That was because  JJ was in the hunt for a championship and his own crew flubbed up a couple times.  I don't think Jeff had any say in that what so ever.

But, yeah, Jeff has been cheated on there at Hendrick.  Hendrick is favoring JJ and Lsr.  I just hope that Kayne doesn't get cheated like Jeff.  When Kayne starts having some good luck, he'll be more competitive.  Right now, he's just posting top 10's.  I'm ready for Jeff to really get the old flame going again to be running up front and not letting JJ just slide by. 

[TruckDriver]

Brad's no dummy.  If you notice when Bowyer got clipped Brad had backed way off & didn't want to be close to the 2 dummies.

I imagine @ Homestead his crew chief & spotter will be letting him know where the two of them are at all times.


If you've noticed, Jeff has had a chip on his shoulder ever since Hendrick changed around all the crews & crew chiefs except for the #48.  It really had to chap his ass that Jr. got his old crew.  Hendrick is really going out of his way to get Jr. a championship & I don't think that's sitting too well.

[41husk]

Well we will all know soon   Sunday is just around the corner.  I think ESPN coverage has the race starting at 2pm but they usually have some pre race at the scheduled start time.  Anyone know when the flag drops?

[Chargen69]

No suspension for Gordon. $100K fine and docked 25 points.


http://www.nascar.com/news/121112/nascar-penalizes-jgordon-cbowyer-bkeselowski/index.html

I feel that is a fair fine.  $100,000 even to Jeff is a chunk of change.

really?  celebrity networth says he is worth 150,000,000 which seems low to me, but even if that is all he is worth, i doubt 100,000 really is gonna hurt, they also say he makes 22mil a year

[nvrbdn]

most of them are making 150-200 thou a race. im assuming that is without bonus for certain finishing spots.

[chargerboy69]

Dodge may not be back next year, but I expect them back for 14.  If they can get a championship for Penske, they sure as heck can get a championship with another team.

But who?

unless Dodge starts building the motors no top team is available to switch. maybe Gibbs??? 

Rumor is Andretti.