The NASCAR Thread

[cdr]

danica got hit by burton,she had a great run!------------NASCAR SHOULD HAVE WAVED THE CAUTION,THAT WAS REAL STUPID THEY DID NOT

[nvrbdn]

right. water or oil all over the track in turn 4 where the entire field is coming hard. ice skates.

[chargerboy69]

Watched the first 70 laps or so, then went running errands with the family.  Looks like I missed a good one.  I found the clips on Youtube, kinda cool to see everyone go at it.  Would have been funny to see Clint get a hold of Jeff, but he just hid in his hauler.

[thedodgeboys]

.  WOW

NA$CAR got stuped at the end of that one...

But go Brad go 20 points isn't a lock but it sure looks good if no one stuffs him into the wall.

MOPAR did it in pro stock if dodge can win the cup tittle in there last year maybe the Mayans were right; the world is ending in December.

When is that cup banquet scheduled for....

[odcics2]

Chevy won the Manufacturers title a few weeks ago.
But Brad can win one for himself and Roger! 

[nvrbdn]

mopar won pro stock, funny car, and top fuel. 

[moparstuart]

Chevy won the Manufacturers title a few weeks ago.
But Brad can win one for himself and Roger! 

A champion winning in a dodge is a win for  DODGE and us DODGE FANS weather nascar says it was or not

[General_01]

I had to miss the end of the race, so I watched the reruns on Speed. Jeff is such a poor liar. "Bowyer has been getting into him all year" and he decides to take him out after the 48 has a bad day. I hope everyone remembers that JG is part owner of the 48 car. He was keeping it a two car Chase by taking Bowyer out. All I have to say is that NASCAR sat Kyle last year for messing with the integrity of the championship in the truck series. They better do the same to Jeff. I understand what Jeff was feeling, but you don't intentionally take somebody out of a shot at the title to pay them back. Classless, but why should I be surprised. JG has always been that way. He will probably get a nice bonus from Hendrick for doing it.

[JB400]

No doubt that Gordon will be parked.  First time the 24 did not enter a race or had a different driver?  Bowyer was just running a good race. for Bowyer.  Hard racing is what I like to see.  Gordon needs to suck on one of his kids' bottles.  Whatever, it made Phoenix an interesting race to watch.  Glad to see Harvick win one this year.  Rowdy done real well too.  JJ and phony done their part as well  Actually, Tony didn't get too much coverage.  I'm surprised.

Brad mentioned that he got badmouthed for running JJ hard last week?  That's stupid.  That's what I watch for.  I thought that is what racing is about; good drivers with an incredible talent driving the wheels off the cars and getting the best finish you can get.  As far as I'm concerned, that was what Bowyer was doing with Jeff this year.  Bowyer made a banzai move at Martinsville trying to get a win, it didn't fair too well.  Bowyer was again running Jeff hard today,  Jeff just got stupid.  Either way, those two made for an exciting finish for an otherwise dull race.   Wait till Tuesday for the penalties, and next Sunday for the final race of the season.

[68coronetGLwannabe]

I was there and it was the best Phoenix race I have been at. Watching the cars drop to the apron in the back stretch and then shoot back up the track is pretty impressive. Surprised they didn't have wrecks back there. Got to see most of the fight unfold on the Jumbotron  and the fans were going crazy. Great finish, but Nascar should have thrown the caution and saved several cars from being destroyed. I dont think Gordon will be parked, He will probably get a fine and a slap on the hand. Way to much Sponsor money behind him.

[41husk]

Sponsor money didn't matter for bush.  If I were M+M Mars and Geoff got a pass, I would be pissed

[nvrbdn]

the cry baby gordon will not get much because nascar will do the same thing they always do. but boyer will be warned to stay away from jimmy or pay the consequences. jeff sure ran for protection after the wreck. then had to have guards protect him while leaving the trailer.

[JB400]

Watching Speed Center, they said there won't be too many penalties.  We'll have to wait and see

[68coronetGLwannabe]

Sponsor money didn't matter for bush.  If I were M+M Mars and Geoff got a pass, I would be pissed

Not that it makes much difference but Busch took out Hornaday under a caution putting him head on into the wall. Very lucky that Hornaday wasn't hurt. I also believe that M&M pulled there sponsorship for a few races due to Kyles actions. Probably gonna be a lot of people upset because not much will happen to the Dupont 24 or Jeff.

http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2011/11/11/2553806/kyle-busch-mms-mars-sponsor-phoenix-nascar-joe-gibbs-racing-2011

[nvrbdn]

gordon was black flagged and refused to leave the track until he did the deed.

          now for my next topic,  the guys that are crying and complaining that some drivers are racing too hard. really?   arent you out there to win? should you just be happy to finish second so as not to be considered trying too hard? what about when gordon had a long dry spell and said he would wreck his own mom to get into the winners circle? well, if the guys that want to win are trying too hard, mabey all the guys complaining should go find a new line of work and leave racing to the guys that arent happy just finishing a race.

        when logano cried cuz newman was racing too hard i was floored. now it seems to be growing through more drivers.

[41husk]

I will be very happy with a top 15 for Brad and the Blue duece Dodge

[nvrbdn]

yes. a top 15 will do it.   that kid is going to be sooooo nervous in that race.

[JB400]

Oh heck, is everyone expecting JJ to win the race?  I hope not.  Brad has this one in the bag unless he beats himself or Gordon and Bowyer get into it again in front of him.

[djcarguy]

BEFORE THE RACE NASCAR DID A HOLE BIT,SHOWED all past fights and helmet tossing and bumps and bangs,,,and have at IT boys??

  told ya  was a hit on jj befor the race was over,  jj knEw and just hit wall little harder than planned but got fixed and back out to keep interest going for last race,,,,ever,,,,,,,,,,it all ends -----12------2012,hahaha?


bower said he did not even need to pass jeff ,,,but kept bumping and rubbing into gordon??

BOWER CAUSED THAT WRECK WITH GORDON ,,,DIVING TO INSIDE AS GORDON WAS DROPPING DOWN TO GET OUT THE THE RACE GROOVE??




ANYWAY DID GET INTERESTING NEAR THE END THERE, AND WATCHED FEW HOUR OF ALL THE REPLAYS AND BULL LIES AFTER   WHOS DID WHAT AND BOO HOO ......................WAS A EXCITING FINISH,,,,,,,,,,,,,  1   ,  1    ,  1  MORE?

[djcarguy]

Sponsor money didn't matter for bush.  If I were M+M Mars and Geoff got a pass, I would be pissed

Not that it makes much difference but Busch took out Hornaday under a caution putting him head on into the wall. Very lucky that Hornaday wasn't hurt. I also believe that M&M pulled there sponsorship for a few races due to Kyles actions. Probably gonna be a lot of people upset because not much will happen to the Dupont 24 or Jeff.

http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2011/11/11/2553806/kyle-busch-mms-mars-sponsor-phoenix-nascar-joe-gibbs-racing-2011

  THAT I AGREE THE WAY I RECALL IT TOO,,UNDER CAUTION AND FORCED HIM INTO THE WALL,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,SPONCER DROPPED BUSH  

[JB400]

Gordon was not getting out of the way.  If he was, he would have pitted after he hit the wall.  He had only one thing on his mind at the time.

[wingcar]

I “thought” Jeff Gordon was suppose to be a champion, and a four champion at that….you wouldn’t know it by his actions at the Phoenix race.    What he did was pure stupid with a capital “S”.  NASCAR should park him, but they won’t as he’s too big a star.
 
When NASCAR told the drivers “boy’s have at it”, I really don’t think they met “Boy’s, do stupid things that could kill someone”.   If you watch the contact between Clint Bowyer and Jeff Gordon, the first time was “racing”, the second was Gordon trying to turn Bowyer and it was this move by Gordon that put Gordon into the wall.  I guess he didn’t learn from Danica, that sometimes it’s best not to try and get even….as you can take yourself out, which he did.

And, what was with NASCAR not throwing the yellow when "Golden Girl" wrecked on the front straight?  Yes, the Phoenix race will go down as 2012’s race with the most drama.   (and perhaps the best race of the year)   

[odcics2]

Chevy won the Manufacturers title a few weeks ago.
But Brad can win one for himself and Roger! 

A champion winning in a dodge is a win for  DODGE and us DODGE FANS weather nascar says it was or not

[thedodgeboys]

the highlight reel just got better for next year thanks to Boyer and Gordon no matter who was at fault.

Gordon wont get parked because he dos not have a past history for being stupid like Kyle Bush has leading up to the truck wreak.

Boyer's crew guy that started the fight may miss next week and I think one of Jeff's guys got pounded pretty good from what I could tell.

I would like to fine Na$car for not throwing the caution at the end when the 10 car crashed, Now that was unsafe 

[JB400]

Just found out on the Hub, Gordon fined $100,000 and a loss of 25 driver/ owner points.   Crew chief fined as well. Probation for everybody for rest of the year.