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GI Joe Just Ain't The Same

Started by Old Moparz, January 24, 2008, 09:36:25 PM

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Old Moparz

So, I was talking to someone at work who is younger than me, & the topic of GI Joe toys came up. :D  I mentioned that I still have the toys in my attic from when I was a kid, & they said they used to watch the show. I smiled & said that my toys were way before the show they had watched, & way before GI Joe was a teeny-tiny, mini action figure with a twisted face & strange alien villians. Eddy Murphy once said "Look at how mad & mean this little 6" GI Joe looks. You'd be mad & mean too if you was 12 inches & someone cut you down to just 6 inches."

The next thing the person I was talking to told me, was that there is a new GI Joe movie coming out next year. I assumed it was a cartoon, but no, it's a regular motion picture. That sounded cool I thought, but I looked it up & it's not the same as from when GI Joe was a military war hero. I understand all the political correctness these days, but it may have been better to keep the original concept or like stated in the article below, why even do it & use the GI Joe name? All in the name of easily recognized products & names to make some cash I suppose.

GI Joe now stands for "Global Integrated Joint Operating Entity"   ::)

I couldn't help myself, so I Googled GI Joe toys & found this old commercial from the 70's.  :D  I was already too old to be interested in "GI Joe With Kung Fu Grip", but the commercial brings back some memories, LOL.
http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/kungfugrip/default.cfm?page=kungfugrip

This interactive one is just too stupid to not post.  :lol:
http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/kungfugrip/default.cfm?page=Entertainment/OnlineGames/CasualGames/KungFuGrip

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296054,00.html

Say it ain't so, G.I. Joe.

The popular all-American comic-book military man and action figure dating back to the 1940s is undergoing a significant transformation for the Paramount Pictures-distributed "G.I. Joe" film, which begins production in February and is scheduled for release in summer 2009.

No longer will G.I. Joe be a U.S. Special Forces soldier, the "Real American Hero" who, in his glory days, single-handedly won World War II.

In the politically correct new millennium, G.I. Joe bears no resemblance to the original.

Paramount has confirmed that in the movie, the name G.I. Joe will become an acronym for "Global Integrated Joint Operating Entity" — an international, coed task force charged with defeating bad guys. It will no longer stand for government issued, as in issued by the American government.

The studio won't elaborate, saying filming hasn't begun and details are still in the works, but the behind-the-scenes rumblings are that the producers have decided to change the nature of G.I. Joe in order to appeal to a wider, more international audience.

The word is that in the current political climate, they're afraid that a heroic U.S. soldier won't fly.

Joe's transformation, however, isn't sitting well with diehard fans and military types.

"I find it outrageous that they'd want to drop everything American" from the character, said conservative blogger Warner Todd Huston, who wrote about the rumors this week on Newsbusters.org and his own blog. "That's nuts."

Retired Army Col. David W. Hunt, a FOX News military and terrorism analyst, called the scheme to make a whole new Joe "a shame."

"G.I. Joe is a U.S. guy," Hunt said. "What are we going to call it — Global Joe? International Joe? It's kind of stupid. It's ridiculous that they're doing that."

Paramount wouldn't say whether an American would be part of the new "global entity," nor would it offer specifics about the storyline or the characters.

"It is too early to tell about plots. We just don't know that," Jessica Rovins, a marketing executive at Paramount, told FOXNews.com.

But she did confirm the accuracy of an article that ran in the film trade publication Variety, which reported last week that G.I. Joe the soldier is being transformed into G.I.J.O.E. the task force.

A Navy spokeswoman said the studio and film's writers have already approached people at the Pentagon for input.

"They had talked about what would be the best way forward, but without seeing a treatment we don't know yet which way it's going to go," Lt. Stephanie Murdock, a project officer in the Navy Office of Information West, told FOXNews.com. "We're definitely open to assisting them when they get around to asking us."

But with no script in hand, she said, it's hard to gauge how the military feels about the characterization of G.I. Joe.

The comic-book character and toy line have already undergone an evolution of sorts since Joe first won the hearts of American little boys — and some little girls — beginning in 1942 with the comic strip and in the early 1960s with the action figure.

In the 1940s, he debuted as a comic-book hero in a strip that ran in U.S. military magazines during World War II.

In the 1960s, G.I. Joe was a burly U.S. Special Forces soldier, the "Real American Hero" of both comic book and action figure fame. The doll had various versions and counterparts of different races and ethnicities, but he was clearly an American male soldier.

In the post-Vietnam War era in the 1970s, Hasbro decided to downplay G.I. Joe's military theme by renaming the line "The Adventures of G.I. Joe" and recasting Joe as the leader of an adventure team charged with espionage missions and fighting evil.

But in the 1980s, the toy company Hasbro made G.I. Joe more of a superhero and added a host of other action figures, expanding the line to include characters that made up a team of international operatives.

Now some critics say the globalization of G.I. Joe has gone too far.

"G.I. Joe is not an international hero. That's crap," said Col. Hunt. "They don't have to water it down. That doesn't make sense."

For blogger Huston, who played with G.I. Joe as a boy, transforming the entire character into an amorphous task force in the movie feels like a hit to his childhood memories.

"I certainly understand that it's for international audiences, but these things are American icons," he said. "Why even pretend it's G.I. Joe then? I am a little bit upset about the whole thing."

Huston believes it's the latest example of Hollywood's hostility toward all things American, and he said he probably won't go to see the film if the existing plans are executed.

"It's the last spit in the face of our military," Huston said. "The doll was G.I. Joe, the government-issued guy who was a hero and American. It was celebrating this one heroic soldier. They want to take even that away."

But in order to be a true success these days, a film has to play well to foreign markets as well as stateside in everything from box-office to DVD sales.

For some citizens of other countries — where sentiments against the Iraq war and the American government are strong — a U.S. soldier might not be the easiest character to get viewers to identify with.

Paramount's Rob Moore, a high-level marketing executive, recently told AdAge.com that it was too soon to know what the global response would be to the film.

"Until there's a [locked] script, I don't think you can really comment on what the international reaction will be," he said. "There are parts of the world where [the negative perception of the American government] is an issue, like Western Europe, and parts where it isn't, like the U.K., Australia and Asia."

Hasbro, the maker of the G.I. Joe action figure line, declined to comment about what's in store for its line of G.I. Joe toys and action figures.

But the toy company's chief operating officer, Brian Goldner, has previously spoken to the media about plans for the movie and brand.

"There are always challenges ... G.I. Joe is not just a brand that represents the military, it also represents great characters," he told AdAge.com. "We'll weigh our options. Clearly we do a lot of work on consumer insight."

The film will be directed by Stephen Sommers, produced by Di Bonaventura Films — which just did the highly successful "Transformers" movie — and written by Stuart Beattie and Skip Woods.

               Bob               



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hemihead

Besides the shame of now being Global . it has to be coed also ???? God help us !   :icon_smile_dissapprove:
Lots of people talkin' , few of them know
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TruckDriver

My 8yr old loves playing with the G.I. Joe guys. I got him 12 of the for this past Christmas.
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

Mike DC

I hate that they're gonna water it down like that.   

Love it or hate it, G.I. Joe is one of the most perfectly uncompromising pieces of cold-war-era American propeganda I can think of.   IMHO they should either do the movie with a mindset straight out of 1961 or they shouldn't do it at all. 



Magnumcharger

Remember when GI Joe had that cool fuzzy brush cut? Or that beard?
How did his CO let him off with THAT?
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hemihead

I think they should make a Waterboarding GI Joe .  :2thumbs:
Lots of people talkin' , few of them know
Soul of a woman was created below
  Led Zeppelin

Old Moparz

Quote from: hemihead on January 25, 2008, 02:24:09 AM
I think they should make a Waterboarding GI Joe .  :2thumbs:

:lol: That'll sell really well at Toys R Us.
               Bob               



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41husk

does the sweeping changes in GI Joe really surprise anyone?  Do you remember the much awaited return of the Dodge Charger? :eek2:  I believe it has been changed a bit in the 42 years since it's introduction :o
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Charger74

I know I for one will not waste my time or money on the movie.  To take a true American icon and make it into what they will in the blasphemous movie is a true disgrace.  But of course what do you expect from commie-wood, they can't seem to take the hint that anti-American movies do not get watched.

charger_mike75

Glenn beck was all over this same subject last summer.

rusty lee


41husk

Quote from: Charger74 on January 25, 2008, 09:29:22 AM
I know I for one will not waste my time or money on the movie.  To take a true American icon and make it into what they will in the blasphemous movie is a true disgrace.  But of course what do you expect from commie-wood, they can't seem to take the hint that anti-American movies do not get watched.
unfortunetly, some one must be watching them, or they would not get produced,  It is a shame the lack of patriotism.  I think people should live in another country for some time before they can truly appreciate what we have in this country.  That is one of many things I learned during my 10 years in the Navy.
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Back N Black

Quote from: Magnumcharger on January 25, 2008, 01:39:10 AM
Remember when GI Joe had that cool fuzzy brush cut? Or that beard?
How did his CO let him off with THAT?


JTF2   :yesnod:

Magnumcharger

Quote from: Back N Black on January 25, 2008, 11:19:17 AM
Quote from: Magnumcharger on January 25, 2008, 01:39:10 AM
Remember when GI Joe had that cool fuzzy brush cut? Or that beard?
How did his CO let him off with THAT?


JTF2   :yesnod:

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1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
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Mike DC

 
I don't mind them making the movie they're talking about doing.  Not at all.  It's their $200 million and they can make whatever the hell they want with it. 


I just mind them carving it into the "G.I. Joe" franchise as if it bears any resemblance to it. 

     

bull

Testosterone is Satan. The PC Nazis will not rest until all men have been made emasculate.

Mike DC

   
I agree.  Being male is basically under a full frontal assault these days.



Maybe that's why I love the idea of a driving a rollcaged 440/4spd '69 Charger with rebel flag on the roof so much.  So shockingly un-PC on so many different levels at once.   

 

89MOPAR

  I like the quote about the US NAvy just waiting for a script so they can help out.
  Now there is a good use of your tax dollars.

  Besides, anyone who saw the animated cartoon series in the 80's  knows that Zartran and Cobra Commander were strong enough to defeat GIJoes team, if only the script writers hadn't been so "pro-good guy"  :shruggy:



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