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Young drivers and fast cars (especially Mustangs) don't mix

Started by 1FastCharger, January 18, 2008, 11:40:10 PM

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terrible one

Haha ouch, that's no fun. A friend of mine has one just like that with the manual tranny and all, very impressive car.

You don't have to "take it easy" to prevent shit like that, you just need some sense. You better believe I'll be boiling tires everywhere in my Charger. I'll drive it into the ground.

Brock Samson

I'm surprised "Kids" get cars like these. It's not uncommon for H.S. students around here to have BMW's or Lexus or at least a new rice rocket, But, when i was in H.S. in the mid '70s very few kids owned cars and they were at least ten years old most of the expensive cars cruising around school were owned by the pimps and drug dealers and they weren't exactly kids. A couple of my friends rides were pretty nice, one guy had a '66 427 vette (later traded it for a '68 Shelby) his dad bought it for him and he worked in a bakery and a friend of mine had a sweet '56 Nomad,.. but that was it..
So when you say a kid has this new Shelby I'm thinking some one under the age of 22 or so, cause "Kid" is a relative term if your 50 like me.
How does a kid end up with a ride like that?..  :shruggy:


Chad L. Magee

Remindes me of "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" with the silver Z-28.  I have seen that happen a few times back home.  Even one of my good friends did that with an 85 Z-28 quite a few years ago while still in high school: speeding at night on a country road, not paying attention to a T-intersection coming up (sign was there) and missing the stop sign to prevent the accident.  He was quite proud of how fast his car could go (he had a built 400 small block in it) and would show off all around town.  The car ended up taking out about 200 feet of barb fence that got wrapped around the front of the car, after hitting the ditch side first.  He ended up only getting one cut (teeth went through his lip) from hitting the steering wheel (which bent into a reverse taco after he hit it).  Only a few parts were usuable from it when it was parted out.  The sheriff told him he was very lucky as most of the accidents at that spot have been fatalities in the past.  To this day, he won't go over 50 on a dirt road......
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Mike DC

 


Most of the public just can't drive. 


A lot of teenagers don't even seem to understand that traction is finite:

"It wasn't MY fault, the brakes locked on me!  Seriously!  All I did was jam the the brake pedal to the floor in the middle of a 70-mph sharp turn in the rain, and suddenly all the brakes & steering just locked up!  It scared the sh*t out of me.  I totally tried to avoid wrecking but I had no control.  It was the car." 

      

Charger1973

I hope the kids parents make him buy his own car this time.  He'll end up with a rusty Taurus station wagon or something like that.  Just recently 2 girls at my college were killed on the interstate.  One was talking on her cell phone and turned the WRONG WAY onto the interstate and hit another girls car head on.   :rotz:  Im always amazed at the number of idiots on the road these days.  I used to want a bike but now I wont ride one on the road.  Ive had too many friends killed that way.

J-440

  Just wait until The Fast and The Furious...I mean the Slow and The Curious...4 comes out.  It'll be ricer fury all over again.
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dkn1997

Here on Long Island, a 16 year old kid  paid the ultimate price last night.  Armed with a learners permit, he was driving his 17 year old friends' Jetta and wanted to see how fast it would go.  all of this at 1:30am or so.  No booze or drugs either according to the cops.  He lost it into a bridge abuttment near the Seaford Oyster Bay expressway.  His buddy who owns the car is in critical condition.  They must have flying because all of the damage occured even with them wearing seatbelts. 

I am amazed more kids did not die when I was that age.  we were all doing the same stuff, but with cars that were at least twice as dangerous. 

I doubt that this type of thing will stop happening through education and tighter restrictions.  You cannot change the mentality of a teenage boy.   The ones who survive generally have at least one close call that sort of hits home.  In some cases, it's a little too close and the kid dies.  This is harsh, but:   In terms of driving and cars, the ones who live have a mix of very good luck and maybe better driving skills in some cases.  The one who lives may have had slighly better acuity and reaction time while trying a stupid stunt, or he just got lucky that nobody pulled out in front of him while doing triple digits somewhere. 
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mally69

Man it sucks to hear stuff like that. I just lost a friend a few weeks ago in a car accident it wasn't his fualt, it was the other drivers. A car is nothing more than a machine, its no better nor any worse than the one operating it. And like all machine's out there, they can kill people, most of the time its in the hands of the driver. :-\   I was told this by my dad when i first started driving, then heard it again from my grandpa  when i bought my charger. So, im guessing my Grandpa told my dad that very same saying that he told me. :yesnod:

Mike DC

 
I actually think modern cars are hurting as much as they are helping the issue.

They're a lot safer than the old cars were in general, but modern cars also do an amazing job of making you feel like you're going more slowly than you really are.  Teenagers in modern cars can hardly even scare themselves until they're going so fast that a wreck would be fatal. 

 

THE CHARGER PUNK

i hate kids like that get nice cars then destroy them because they do not know how to drive,theres no problem with showing off if you know how to do so and not ot a degree where your putting your car or yourself at risk, hell im 18 and i was taught how to drive in my dads old 68 charger and that car had 600+hp and i could drive it properly and when i wanted to light up those tires for 150 feet hell i could do that to :yesnod: :icon_smile_big:, you can have power,you only get hurt if you abuse it and that saying goes for more then just cars ;)-MATT

Brock Samson


67vertman

This is why my daughter will be going to Bob Bondurant 3-day teen dring training, http://www.bondurant.com/courses/teendriving.php this year.  :yesnod:

Of course while she there, I am going to be doing the Z06 exserience, http://www.bondurant.com/courses/z06experience.php  :nana:

4cruzin

Hopefully its a lesson learned for the driver and glad no one was hurt.  Accidents do happen but it sounds to me like that could of been avoided with some smart driving!   :yesnod:
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69bronzeT5

Quote from: THE CHARGER PUNK on January 20, 2008, 01:16:24 PM
i hate kids like that get nice cars then destroy them because they do not know how to drive,theres no problem with showing off if you know how to do so and not ot a degree where your putting your car or yourself at risk, hell im 18 and i was taught how to drive in my dads old 68 charger and that car had 600+hp and i could drive it properly and when i wanted to light up those tires for 150 feet hell i could do that to :yesnod: :icon_smile_big:, you can have power,you only get hurt if you abuse it and that saying goes for more then just cars ;)-MATT

Didnt you end up driving the Charger into the side of your house? :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :D
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1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
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Mike DC


Yeah, I've seen that second one before. 

We like to laugh at his "stupidity" with the shovel & all that, but he actually handled the car pretty smoothly.

   

Lord Warlock

QuoteIt's not the young driver's, it's mustangs,.. drive a mustang, get dumb
Hey now, quit dissing the mustangs....its not the car its the drivers.  My mustang will eat most of the chargers alive, straight from the factory, has nice tight steering, handles great and has great ac and stereo options.  But on the other hand, the mustang will be gone in 10 years, the Charger will remain.  All 4 of the mustangs i've owned were nice driving cars, and fairly dependable compared to the old mopar.  At least in the mustang i can drive across the state on a single tank of gas, the charger eats almost 2 full tanks. 

I don't feel bad about seeing the occasional high end mustang die a nasty death, like most unique cars it will make the survivors worth more in the long run.  At least with the cobras one less means its even rarer than it was the day before. 
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Khyron

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chgr500

Quote from: mally69 on January 19, 2008, 01:10:54 PM
sorry for his luck :slap: That really sucks. What kind of power do those cars have anyhow  :shruggy:  At least its not somones ( OLD ) charger. Could care less if it were a new charger.

Stock 4.6 litre mustang engines are rated at 310 HP ...Roush offers several different stages of Mustangs and models...310 to 435 HP and carries bumper to bumper warranty....the Shelby and the GT40 are rated at 550HP ....I've driven all of these cars and you must give them respect for power.....ponies have a loose rear end and like going sideways on heavy acceleration... good thing I had BB Mopars growing up ..lol
p.s. ...Ford is proposing two new engine options for the Mustang in 2010 with the body change and to compete with the new Mopar line...engine options are rumored to be a 5.8 litre and a 6.9 litre...chuck a supercharger on there and now how many ponies???

hemihead

It's not only the young drivers that can't handle the car . It's also most of the Adults . I have seen many people at car shows or cruises that are brain dead and think they are big , tough guys and do stupid things . They usually hurt the car , themselves , or innocent bystanders. And you know what   ? They always say " It wasn't  my fault ... blah , blah , blah "
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Mike DC

 
It's funny how you can spend decades wanting the same car ever since you were 14, and then when you can finally afford one at 42 everyone calls it a "midlife crisis."


   

Lord Warlock

QuoteLord Warlock=what kind of Mustang do you have?
I have an 04 SVT Cobra, black on black coupe.  Yes its supercharged from the factory, and its fast stock 390 hp, roughly 0-60 in 4.5 sec 1/4 in 12.65 (from the factory data-which is probably a couple tenths better than most actually see) but the car can do a quarter un-modded in mid 12s, and for less than 3k can get it into the 10s if you want to, although thats not my goal, i have no need to go faster than a mid 12.  I kind of enjoy having one un-modded, that seems to be how most buyers want them anyway.

The 5.8 is the boss 302 motor, which is slated to be re-released someday, the 6.9 i believe is the v10 but i haven't heard anything about the v10 in over a year.  They were hinting that the new boss would get that a few years ago, but its still not out. 

Quotewhen you can finally afford one at 42 everyone calls it a "midlife crisis
The only reason why we use the mid life crisis excuse is that at 45, we have to get "permission" to spend 50k on a car, when you are 18 and single noone can tell you how much to spend on your toy.  We use the midlife crisis as an excuse to the wives who have been tightwads for decades and we already understand that a fancy hotrod isn't a "need" car, its a frivolous expenditure, that has to be justified some way.  The token few who got wives that want their men driving fancy or fast cars have already migrated to corvettes or even vipers.  The rarity of vipers on the road is a good indicator of just how few women out there that are open to encouraging the car habit in their men.  Most accept it grudgingly and try to choke down the jealousy at sharing their time. 
69 RT/SE Y3 cream yellow w/tan vinyl top and black r/t stripe. non matching 440/375, 3:23, Column shift auto w/buddy seat, tan interior, am/fm w/fr to back fade, Now wears 17" magnum 500 rims and Nitto tires. Fresh repaint, new interior, new wheels and tires.

Lord Warlock

actually it'll only do 155, there is a speed limiter that stops it above that.  The 03 cobra is the same as the 04. 
69 RT/SE Y3 cream yellow w/tan vinyl top and black r/t stripe. non matching 440/375, 3:23, Column shift auto w/buddy seat, tan interior, am/fm w/fr to back fade, Now wears 17" magnum 500 rims and Nitto tires. Fresh repaint, new interior, new wheels and tires.

Lord Warlock

yeah, using a diablo tuner can eliminate the speed control, and redline, and get rid of the stupid shift light (for mileage) as well as tune it for higher octane or lower octane gas, but most cobra owners won't do the "tune" upgrade till after they swap out the upper or upper and lower supercharger pullies. 
69 RT/SE Y3 cream yellow w/tan vinyl top and black r/t stripe. non matching 440/375, 3:23, Column shift auto w/buddy seat, tan interior, am/fm w/fr to back fade, Now wears 17" magnum 500 rims and Nitto tires. Fresh repaint, new interior, new wheels and tires.

Lord Warlock

mopar nuts should be a little tolerant when we discuss our "daily drivers" that just happen to be fords.  The Stealth/3000gt owners have to listen to me talk about chargers and old musclecars often enough-for the last 5 years, as do the svtperformance people.  I don't mind the ribbing though, mopar lovers should always discriminate against chevvies, but fords?  If they want to taunt me, i'll be happy to taunt them back.

Not everyone can read a post and immediately come up with a fleshed out response, takes practice, such as extensive online posting on numerous sites.  Don't begrudge a budding post count.  lol.   
69 RT/SE Y3 cream yellow w/tan vinyl top and black r/t stripe. non matching 440/375, 3:23, Column shift auto w/buddy seat, tan interior, am/fm w/fr to back fade, Now wears 17" magnum 500 rims and Nitto tires. Fresh repaint, new interior, new wheels and tires.