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question about fender tags

Started by Bandit72, December 22, 2007, 09:04:38 PM

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Bandit72

what is the significance of the "end" i see at the top of some fender tags?
Daddy ran whiskey in a big black dodge
bought it at an auction at the masons lodge,
Johnson County Sherriff painted on the side,
just shot a coat of primer then he looked inside,
well him and my uncle tore that engine down,
I still remember that rumblin' sound.....

Alaskan_TA


70charginglizard

END indicates the end of option codes. Not all option codes are found on the fender tag, the full listing after END is found on the broad cast sheet. Mainly because they can't fit all the option codes on that tiny little plate so they only put the main ones there until they run out of room. At least thats the way I understand it. :cheers:

70charginglizard

Ghoste

And the reason it's at the top is because the codes actually begin at the bottom and work up.  I have no idea why though.

BROCK

Some cars have enough options to warrant a second tag or have a special second tag.  Instead of END on the first tag
you'll see EN1 or CTD (don't remember all possibilities for all years).  I think END does come at the end even its on a 2nd
or 3rd tag.

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Just 6T9 CHGR

Then theres the EN2 tags....The earliest I have in the registry with that code is 5/5/69

EN2 was coded at the Hamtramck plant when they started running a second production line
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


hemigeno

Chris,

The startup date I have (just with the Daytonas I track) for EN2 is right around there also, just going from memory.  However, except for right around that date, it seems like they were all EN2's after the changeover took full effect.  It could be that the Daytonas were all run down the same line and would therefore follow the pattern, but are there any END Hamtramck-built Base Chargers or Charger R/T's recorded in the '69 Registry?

Interesting...

Where's Barry Washington when we need him??   :P


UFO

Gene , Yes there are base and R/T's with "end" from Hamtramck.
I have the tags in front of me.
Have prod dates of B22-A16-B01.

charge69

My '69 R/T Hemi built at Hamtramck  on 3/14/69 has END on the tag.

hemigeno

Brian, are there any END tags with SPD's after early May? 

I know there are many Daytonas with END, but all have SPD's before +/- 505 as Chris mentioned.

69_500

I'm trying to think but I'm going from memory here but I think that car 426730 had END on the fender tag. It was an RT/SE.

Oh and Gene I think that there is a Daytona with a build date of 529 that has an END on the fender tag. VIN ends in 581.

hemigeno

I'll have to check tomorrow when I'm back at the Office.  However, I know better than to doubt your memory...   :bow:

UFO

Here is a 5-20 spd with end.
On a daytona obviously, I don't have a reg charger or R/T with end and a later spd.Chris would have way more info than me.

69_500

Well with the RT/SE I only looked at the car one time, and it was in the dark, and the car was for sale at the time. However I do very specifically remmeber the VIN to the car, and I also very vividly remember that it had the ever ellusive M05 door edge mouldings on the car. Not sure if they were factory or not, but its the only car I recall seeing them actually mounted on. Factory bronze car that was painted black. I believe it was at the Mopar nationals 2 years ago as well. Saw it from a distance, and I am almost certain its the same car.

69_500

Update, and you can feel free to  :slap: me on this one, but I just found a photo of the fender tag and it says EN2. So I was wrong on that part.

UFO

I found a charger R/T with the same 5-20 spd with en2."Edit" scratch that,pic of tag looks like a 5,paperwork says 6-20.
There must be a bulletin out there mentioning the start of a another line.

Alaskan_TA

I'll try and address a few things here;

EN1 - End of sales codes, assembly line 1

EN2 - End of sales codes, assembly line 2

Hamtramck had  two assembly lines long before 1969, but for some reason near the end of the 1969 model year they started noting it on the tags. I do not have a lot of 1969 information, but from what I do have the earliest EN1 I have for Hamtramck during the 1969 model year is on a Dodge Dart with a scheduled production date of June 6th.

If all the Chargers were built on line one, then the tags would end in EN1 after they made the coding change.

Barry

Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: hemigeno on December 23, 2007, 07:37:54 PM
Brian, are there any END tags with SPD's after early May? 



Absolutely.....my latest is  7/8/69 #442414
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


69CoronetRT

Quote from: Alaskan_TA on December 23, 2007, 09:16:34 PM
.... but from what I do have the earliest EN1 I have for Hamtramck during the 1969 model year is on a Dodge Dart with a scheduled production date of June 6th.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

Just 6T9 CHGR

Man, talk about a "stripper"!  Look at all that wasted space on that tag ;)

The 69 Chargers I have registered only have END or EN2
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


BROCK

How many lines were at St Louis? 

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69_500

Chris I dont think that I've ever seen a Charger with EN1 on the fender tag. I have seen many with EN2 as well as END. Correction never seen both on the same tag, I guess it depends on how you read that last sentence if you take it that way or not.

Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: BROCK on December 24, 2007, 12:37:11 PM
How many lines were at St Louis? 
Depended on the options on the car....tag was pretty much the same as the Hamtramck tags...coded a bit differently though

I think you are thinking of the Lynch Road tags which are really strange (no 69 Chargers built there though)
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


69CoronetRT

Quote from: BROCK on December 24, 2007, 12:37:11 PM
How many lines were at St Louis? 

Chris, he may mean production lines and the answer is one. STL tags only show "END"

QuoteMan, talk about a "stripper"!  Look at all that wasted space on that tag

I have some tags with less than that......
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: 69_500 on December 24, 2007, 12:41:02 PM
Chris I dont think that I've ever seen a Charger with EN1 on the fender tag. I have seen many with EN2 as well as END. Correction never seen both on the same tag, I guess it depends on how you read that last sentence if you take it that way or not.

Looks like Baracudas and Chargers were line 2. Darts were line 1.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.