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who said gas will never be under 2 dollars again....

Started by dukeboy_318, December 08, 2007, 11:38:43 AM

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dukeboy_318

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RD

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BrianShaughnessy


Too bad it didn't happen here.    Not like that will help anybody in the long term.   
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TruckDriver

I saw that on the local news. To bad it was to far north for me ::)
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bull

I think that station owner is a little naive if she feels like people ripped her off. I bet even Mother Theresa would be down there filling the tank at $.33/gallon. I know I would.

dukeboy_318

do you blame people, i mean when gas prices can differ by 30-50 cents just from one side of town to the other, i think gas companys ar eprice gouging a little, 3 miles across down shouldnt havea 50 cent difference, i filled up my truck at a citgo on the south side of town, diesel was 3.19, 5 blocks north, citgo, circle K, speedway, marathon, all had it listed for 3.69, why the difference, the citgo i filled up had just lowered the price the day before while other stations raised theirs??? :flame:
1978 Dodge Power Wagon W200 4x4- 408 stroker/4spd
1974 Dodge Dart Swinger. 440 project in the works.

BigBlackDodge

I having trouble finding sympathy for the gas station owner. :nana:



BBD

mally69

It happend here in PA once.   You could have sworn that there was a Dodge Charger car show going on, there were people lined up for a few hundred yards away waiting to get gas  :yesnod:

Old Moparz

The oil company probably still made a decent profit on the $0.33 per gallon.
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70charginglizard

Quote from: dukeboy_318 on December 08, 2007, 07:35:19 PM
do you blame people, i mean when gas prices can differ by 30-50 cents just from one side of town to the other, i think gas companys ar eprice gouging a little, 3 miles across down shouldnt havea 50 cent difference, i filled up my truck at a citgo on the south side of town, diesel was 3.19, 5 blocks north, citgo, circle K, speedway, marathon, all had it listed for 3.69, why the difference, the citgo i filled up had just lowered the price the day before while other stations raised theirs??? :flame:
:iagree:

but it's not the stations owner fault that the price of gas is high.
it's the greedy rich oil companies fault.
The gas station owner is just a simple little business man tryng to make a living.
Yeah, it was a pretty stupid mistake that what happened happened but don't blame the gas station owners for the price of fuel or imply that it's there fault some how.
70charginglizard

C_stripes

I bet the cop called his friends before calling the owner.   
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dukeboy_318

Quote from: 70charginglizard on December 09, 2007, 01:17:28 PM
Quote from: dukeboy_318 on December 08, 2007, 07:35:19 PM
do you blame people, i mean when gas prices can differ by 30-50 cents just from one side of town to the other, i think gas companys ar eprice gouging a little, 3 miles across down shouldnt havea 50 cent difference, i filled up my truck at a citgo on the south side of town, diesel was 3.19, 5 blocks north, citgo, circle K, speedway, marathon, all had it listed for 3.69, why the difference, the citgo i filled up had just lowered the price the day before while other stations raised theirs??? :flame:
:iagree:

but it's not the stations owner fault that the price of gas is high.
it's the greedy rich oil companies fault.
The gas station owner is just a simple little business man tryng to make a living.
Yeah, it was a pretty stupid mistake that what happened happened but don't blame the gas station owners for the price of fuel or imply that it's there fault some how.

i know the companies control prices, but i just dont under stand how the same station, owned by two different owners, can vary by 30-50 cents and they are located in the same zipcode, just blocks apart.  it just irritated me that the owner called the customers dishonest and theives, heck id filled every container i could find if that happened here.  man i guess ive been on a tear lately making people mad :-\, sorry bout that 70chargeringlizard, didnt mean to blame just the owners, i blame the entire oil community .  :cheers:
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justin1987

Seriously, how many of you work in the oil and gas industry? How many people actually know how much an oil well costs to produce and maintain? How many of you think it's ALL the oil companies fault just because you heard it on the news?

You all need to actually talk to people in the oil and gas industry. My family has been in the oil industry for over 35 years. I'm keeping that tradition going when I graduate from college in two years. The starting salary for my major with ConocoPhillips is $85,000. Hell, one of my friends started a job with ExxonMobil this year and had a starting salary of $120,000. What other industry do you know that pays that well with only 4-5 years of college?

The majority of ya'll don't realize that it can cost millions of dollars a year to keep a single well going. And the majority of oil companies sell their oil to oil refinieries that raise the price. So for all you that said it's all the oil COMPANIES fault, then you need to check your facts. Sure there are a few companies that own their own refineries, but the number of companies that do not, outweigh them.

You can say all you want about the oil industry, but it is still the driving force of the world and it will be for as long as any of us are around.

BigBlackDodge

Just curious............which oil companies do own their own refinerys? I imagine all the big ones do..............no? :scratchchin:


BBD

mally69

Quote from: justin1987 on December 09, 2007, 07:45:16 PM
Seriously, how many of you work in the oil and gas industry? How many people actually know how much an oil well costs to produce and maintain? How many of you think it's ALL the oil companies fault just because you heard it on the news?

You all need to actually talk to people in the oil and gas industry. My family has been in the oil industry for over 35 years. I'm keeping that tradition going when I graduate from college in two years. The starting salary for my major with ConocoPhillips is $85,000. Hell, one of my friends started a job with ExxonMobil this year and had a starting salary of $120,000. What other industry do you know that pays that well with only 4-5 years of college?

The majority of ya'll don't realize that it can cost millions of dollars a year to keep a single well going. And the majority of oil companies sell their oil to oil refinieries that raise the price. So for all you that said it's all the oil COMPANIES fault, then you need to check your facts. Sure there are a few companies that own their own refineries, but the number of companies that do not, outweigh them.

You can say all you want about the oil industry, but it is still the driving force of the world and it will be for as long as any of us are around.


Starting salary of $120,000  is REDICULOUS thats why gas is over priced the workers want more money. Just think  how many employee's get paid that much per year, Its a wonder why it takes millions to operate the place,   In my mind think they are a bit over paid, and that being said would lower gas prices. Even 85,000 starting off is outragouse DONT TAKE ANY OFFENSE its just my  :Twocents:, but that seems off the wall, But good for you though :2thumbs: If i were you I would be buying Hemi's out the a$$ along with many more charger's..

By the way are you guy's doing any Hiring.. :scratchchin:

justin1987

Quote from: BigBlackDodge on December 10, 2007, 08:06:17 AM
Just curious............which oil companies do own their own refinerys? I imagine all the big ones do..............no? :scratchchin:


BBD

Valero, ConocoPhillips, and ExxonMobil are the biggest companies that have refineries in the U.S.

ConocoPhillips' refinery is about 45 miles north of where I live and the Conoco station across the street from the refinery has the highest gas prices in the entire state. That proves that refineries, not companies, are to blame. The number of smaller oil and gas companies are in the thousands whereas there are probably 10 large companies in the country. The smaller companies cannot refine their oil so they sell it to the larger companies. I just get tired of people say it's all the oil companies' fault.

justin1987

Quote from: mally69 on December 10, 2007, 09:00:59 AM
Starting salary of $120,000  is REDICULOUS thats why gas is over priced the workers want more money. Just think  how many employee's get paid that much per year, Its a wonder why it takes millions to operate the place,   In my mind think they are a bit over paid, and that being said would lower gas prices. Even 85,000 starting off is outragouse DONT TAKE ANY OFFENSE its just my  :Twocents:, but that seems off the wall, But good for you though :2thumbs: If i were you I would be buying Hemi's out the a$$ along with many more charger's..

By the way are you guy's doing any Hiring.. :scratchchin:

Not everybody makes $120,000. The $120,000 a year is for an offshore drilling engineer that works 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off. The salaries average out if you consider the average roustabout earns $35,000 a year.

It may seem ridiculous, but compared to the hell that engineering students have to go through these days, it is fair. Engineering is the number one recruited major out of college now because of the high demand. Most americans don't want to deal with the 4-5 years of math and science anymore. I've sacrificed a lot of stuff while I've been in college just so I can have a great life when I get out. Companies are more prone to hiring and American if they can. It's kind of hard to do since for every 100,000 american engineers graduating each year, there are something like 750,000 Indian and Chinese engineers graduating.

As soon as I graduate I could go to Saudi Arabia and make $100,000 a year, tax free that increases $10,000 a year every year that you are there. All living and relocation expenses are paid in full. The down side is you have to live in a guarded compound. There is no way in hell that I would do that, but it just shows that the price will never go down because it is in such high demand.

mally69

 :o :o :o   i wish i could make money like that but of course me in  school   :smilielol:  not a good idea 

good luck to you though,,   maybe sometime you could slip a guy a few thousand to buy some charger stuff :nana:

PocketThunder

Quote from: justin1987 on December 10, 2007, 10:24:38 AM
Quote from: mally69 on December 10, 2007, 09:00:59 AM
Starting salary of $120,000  is REDICULOUS thats why gas is over priced the workers want more money. Just think  how many employee's get paid that much per year, Its a wonder why it takes millions to operate the place,   In my mind think they are a bit over paid, and that being said would lower gas prices. Even 85,000 starting off is outragouse DONT TAKE ANY OFFENSE its just my  :Twocents:, but that seems off the wall, But good for you though :2thumbs: If i were you I would be buying Hemi's out the a$$ along with many more charger's..

By the way are you guy's doing any Hiring.. :scratchchin:

Not everybody makes $120,000. The $120,000 a year is for an offshore drilling engineer that works 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off. The salaries average out if you consider the average roustabout earns $35,000 a year.

It may seem ridiculous, but compared to the hell that engineering students have to go through these days, it is fair. Engineering is the number one recruited major out of college now because of the high demand. Most americans don't want to deal with the 4-5 years of math and science anymore. I've sacrificed a lot of stuff while I've been in college just so I can have a great life when I get out. Companies are more prone to hiring and American if they can. It's kind of hard to do since for every 100,000 american engineers graduating each year, there are something like 750,000 Indian and Chinese engineers graduating.

As soon as I graduate I could go to Saudi Arabia and make $100,000 a year, tax free that increases $10,000 a year every year that you are there. All living and relocation expenses are paid in full. The down side is you have to live in a guarded compound. There is no way in hell that I would do that, but it just shows that the price will never go down because it is in such high demand.

Justin are you down near Conoco in Roxana, IL?
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justin1987

Quote from: PocketThunder on December 10, 2007, 05:32:22 PM
Justin are you down near Conoco in Roxana, IL?

No, I'm just south of the refinery in Ponca City, Oklahoma. The place used to be Conoco's world headquarters until they merged with Phillips Petroleum a few years back.

Vainglory, Esq.

QuoteAs soon as I graduate I could go to Saudi Arabia and make $100,000 a year, tax free

Sure it's tax free if you don't mind giving up your citizenship.  Oh, and if you decide to keep your US citizenship, you'll be subject to local taxes in both Saudi Arabia and your domicile in the US.  Oh, and if you decide to stay for more than a year, your travel and living expenses won't be deductible.  Oh, and the earned income exclusion only applies to $85,700 gross income, and it's counted as income when figuring which tax bracket you belong in - chances are you'd get hit with a big bill for AMT.

Trust me.  The IRS will get theirs.

68chrgrwife

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Forza

Sorry Justin but after reading your posts I'm still going to have to say both the Oil companies and Refineries are all thieves. Money hungry, every last one of them. 85k Starting pay? I'm glad you can live it rich while people that save lives on a daily basis get shafted for 1/4 of that. Back to the topic, I'm sure that was an extremely expensive hour and 45 minute loss for that owner.

justin1987

Quote from: Forza on December 11, 2007, 04:37:54 AM
Sorry Justin but after reading your posts I'm still going to have to say both the Oil companies and Refineries are all thieves. Money hungry, every last one of them. 85k Starting pay? I'm glad you can live it rich while people that save lives on a daily basis get shafted for 1/4 of that. Back to the topic, I'm sure that was an extremely expensive hour and 45 minute loss for that owner.

Well, if people aren't happy with what they get paid, maybe they should go to college instead of settling for a high school diploma. I've busted my ass everyday of my life to ensure a good job so I can have a good life. I'd say about 90% of Americans are too damn lazy to get off their couch and better their life because they are afraid of a little hard work.

I'm not going to argue anymore on here about this. I'm not going to change anyone's mind because people are afraid to be different and they don't want to think outside the box.

By the way, the company my dad works for sells their oil for $35.00 a barrel, so they must be making a fortune since oil really sells for nearly three times that much.  ::)

mally69

hard work huh sitting in a class room and paper work,, hard,,  LAZY   :icon_bs: ..    Ok not busting your balls or anyone else's that went to school , but I have to stand up for the real workers that are out there carrying a lunch bucket trying to make a decent living like my self and most of america's people. Not everyone's family can AFFORD to send their kids to school like you,,, its NOT LAZY  , id have to say you have had everything handed to you pretty much.  Try this, its 105 degrees in the air and your putting in heavy guiderail along a highway right behind a paver with 300 degree asphalt tearing your feet off,  blood and sweat all day and there is NO break not even a lunch break, and its  for $20/hr , you would never make it from the way your talking..  Those are are jobs where you can say you are busting your  ass.. Beilieve me, my job is one of millions other jobs that are nothing but hard manual labor...  Have you ever sat down and thought of who physically built your school?   And, people are to damn lazy to get off their couch and better their lives becuase they are afraid of a little hard work....  Boy you have no clue what it is like to have NOTHING...  You have no idea what real hard work is , Bottom line....................................................