68 Hemi Charger with Police package??

[Spike]

Ever hear of this??

http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/461959646.html

1968 Dodge Charger 426 4v , 3.23 posi axle , auto trans, dual exhaust and MASSIVE sway bars front and rear, Also a factory installed loop type roll bar, and working AC, PS,PB,PW. This is a very plain car, snow white in color with no extra trim or lettering of any kind , and no extra holes in the body to put it on ether. The interior is in very good shape dark blue in color with a bench seat and column shift auto trans. The dash has a 150 mph speedo with oil psi, volts, gas, temp only. No tach, No clock, No radio not even a place for it. This is in original condition with no rust ever and no dents or dings , or paint chips, and original paint. Runs like a top with 33K original. The build sheet says it is a special order Police Pursuit car. There is a metal plate riveted to the drivers front fender well that says Police Pursuit and gives the motor cid, axle ratio, VIN# , and other information. The title says municipal vehicle it does not say Charger anyplace on it. And it is a one owner A title car. It has been in our family sense day one when My dad bought it new. Comes with all of the original paper work for the original sale of the car. All maintenance records showing any and all work done to it including old receipts for oil changes. It is an original Michigan car. It has never been parked in the rain and never seen snow. Always been tarp-ed in doors. My guess is this is truly the first Hemi police Charger ever built, and the only 1968 hemi police charger on the road. Email me to set up an appointment to inspect. You may test drive but there will be NO THRILL DRIVES AND OR RIDES . NO OVER SEA SALES. The car is spotless and show ready drive any place. It has been in 15 car shows in its life and took home a first place every time. I will be posting photos tomorrow some time. $120,000 firm

[Ghoste]

I gotta call  on this one.  I'm no guru and never say never and all that but I'm going to need a LOT more proof to believe it.

[Ghoste]

If his dad bought it new, why does it say municipal vehicle on the title?

[y3chargerrt]

Hemi 4 barrel with a/c??   

[RD]

If his dad bought it new, why does it say municipal vehicle on the title?

police could have decided not to purchase the car from the dealer, hence they sold it to the public?  my guess... if its legit.  cool story.

[Ghoste]

No tach or clock in a 68??  Not to mention the factory installed roll bar and bench seat?  But it did get the power windows.

[The70RT]

Sounds interesting. He says pics tomorrow.

[69_500]

I'm calling BS, for one simple reason. NO AC on 426 HEMI cars. Now the person might be a fool, and think that 440 means HEMI or something, and then it stands a slim chance in you know what of being true. No charger emblems from the factory? No place for a radio? You can get a radio delete Charger, that isn't unheard of, but there is still a place for a radio, just a radio delete plate over it.

No tach? Thats not uncommon either, even for a 4 speed car, so its definately not a 1 off thing for an AT car to come without a tach. I'm not positive for 68, but I don't think that the 3.23 ratio for rear end was available. I think that you were limited in your choices to the 8 3/4 3.55 or 3.91 or the Dana with 3.54 or 4.10. Or am I mistaken?

Last time I checked it snowed in Michigan even back in 68. So what are the odds of a Municipal vehicle not being allowed out in the rain or snow? I'm guessing that if by any slim chance it was at one time a police pursuit vehicle, that the current owner purchased it from the station after it served its time in their fleet. Hence making him a possible first ower, as I'm not sure how the title would be for a municipality owning a car.

One other thing that screams SCAM to me is the BENCH SEAT. As far as I know there are NO bench seat Chargers until 1970. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on this one too.

[Dans 68]

Um, look at the car...it is not a '68. Other than that, I have no idea.... 

[bull]

One other thing that screams SCAM to me is the BENCH SEAT. As far as I know there are NO bench seat Chargers until 1970. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on this one too.

If this car is for real it would include several firsts on a '68, including bench seats. To date I've never seen a verifiable account of there ever being a 2nd gen Charger placed into service as a police car. As far as the front seats the only thing they could have done was install some seats out of another B-body because there were no bench seats for Chargers in '68 or '69, only '70 in the base model. Maybe it went to some higher up police chief or something who never used it for anything but driving to meetings. And why would there be no holes for emblems? Seems to me the company or dealer is not going to go through the trouble to close them all up when the remainder of the entire fleet had them. And why would anyone care if the name of the car was displayed? No one has cared before or since. Sounds pretty far-fetched to me but we've seen a few come true around here. This is definitely something that would need to be verified by someone with clout, like Galen. BTW, if it's all true the price is too low... red flag.

[69_500]

Um, look at the car...it is not a '68. Other than that, I have no idea.... 

Not sure on what car your looking at, because the add does not have any photo's as of yet.

[Dans 68]

Um, look at the car...it is not a '68. Other than that, I have no idea.... 

Not sure on what car your looking at, because the add does not have any photo's as of yet.

Sorry 'bout that, Bull...you are right. I mistook the postee's ride for the one in question. Based upon this, next week is going to be a bear....

[RD]

there was a challenger that was bought and put into California Highway Patrol usage, had 2.76 posi rearend specially installed for highway pursuits, I believe it was a 440 or hemi car, i read it in a mopar magazine 4 to 5 years back or so.

because of that, i would say that this is still plausible.  The a/c thing brings to question, but who is to say the dude did not add a aftermarket unit on there?

[deputycrawford]

I live in the Toledo, Ohio area. I am only 1 hour south of Detroit and have sent him an e-mail for an appointment to see the car in person. We'll see if he e-mails me back. I'll find a digital camera if he lets me go see it. I'm no true expert but I have had mine apart many times, as well as worked on a few other second gens. I have also researched and decoded a buddy's 69 R/T SE 4 speed car. I still have to find out a couple of the final details but I think I have just enough experience to copy the VIN and fender tag info. I will also look for the torque boxes if it is a Hemi car. Give me a list of other things to look for in a Hemi car or Municipal car.

[hemi68charger]

No tach? Thats not uncommon either, even for a 4 speed car, so its definately not a 1 off thing for an AT car to come without a tach. I'm not positive for 68, but I don't think that the 3.23 ratio for rear end was available. I think that you were limited in your choices to the 8 3/4 3.55 or 3.91 or the Dana with 3.54 or 4.10. Or am I mistaken?

Danny, not only is my '68 an original 3.23 car, it's also lacking a sure-grip... But, it'll have one now.........

Troy

[bull]

Um, look at the car...it is not a '68. Other than that, I have no idea.... 

Not sure on what car your looking at, because the add does not have any photo's as of yet.

Sorry 'bout that, Bull...you are right. I mistook the postee's ride for the one in question. Based upon this, next week is going to be a bear....

I didn't say anything.

[Ghoste]

But if there's no tach, there should be a clock.  This ad says no tach or clock.

[tan top]

 

[bull]

But if there's no tach, there should be a clock.  This ad says no tach or clock.

Correct. The only 2nd gen that came with neither from the factory was the base model '70 as far as I know. Mine just had a blank plate with crosshairs in that spot. Maybe some of the other '70s had no clock but any '68 would have had either/or. But then there are plenty of major discrepancies in this car, or at least the story on this car.

[1BAD68]

Why would this guy go through all that trouble to fake (original sale paperwork, build sheet and fender tags) for 120K?
Just the fact that its an original one owner Hemi Charger would bring its value near that.
I'd say this car is very possible and probably a really early build car.
If I was rich I would be all over it, wouldn't be hard to confirm if its real or not

[RECHRGD]

Why would this guy go through all that trouble to fake (original sale paperwork, build sheet and fender tags) for 120K?
Just the fact that its an original one owner Hemi Charger would bring its value near that.
I'd say this car is very possible and probably a really early build car.
If I was rich I would be all over it, wouldn't be hard to confirm if its real or not

I agree.  I think alot of the descrepancies noted about the ad could simply be that the seller (Owner's Son) does not know the car that well.  He's not coming across like the typical scam artist.  He wants potential buyers to come inspect and drive the car.  It will be interesting to see what kind of response DeputyCrawford gets.  Bob

[chargerman68]

Um, look at the car...it is not a '68. Other than that, I have no idea.... 

is it me i dont see a picture

[bull]

Why would this guy go through all that trouble to fake (original sale paperwork, build sheet and fender tags) for 120K?
Just the fact that its an original one owner Hemi Charger would bring its value near that.
I'd say this car is very possible and probably a really early build car.
If I was rich I would be all over it, wouldn't be hard to confirm if its real or not

I agree.  I think alot of the descrepancies noted about the ad could simply be that the seller (Owner's Son) does not know the car that well.  He's not coming across like the typical scam artist.  He wants potential buyers to come inspect and drive the car.  It will be interesting to see what kind of response DeputyCrawford gets.  Bob

That's a very good possibility. In fact, with all these crazy options I'm beginning to wonder if it's even a Charger. Guess we'll find out if he ever posts some pix.

[triple_green]

This is interesting in light of another Charger I discovered here locally. It is a 71 Charger SE, but the guy worked for Chrysler in the early 70s and claims that he ordered it with the Washington State patrol pursuit 440 in it. He says it was basically a 6-pack engine with a 850 cfm carb from the factory. I saw the car and the VIN decodes to a 440 car. I also saw a period correct looking 850 carb. I asked him to see the build sheet, but he never produced it, I think it was still under the back seat of the car.

He seemed to think his car was worth a lot of money and was afraid I was going to give the info to the wrong people and cause him problems. He claimed someone from Hemmings had been hounding him about buying the car. The engine was out of the car on an engine stand. He had had it built up with racing components. (not my bag) for an unusual factory car.

3X

[41husk]

i agree, triple green, but there are many people with tubbed and highly modified R/Ts and rallye cars.  Not my thing either.  It seems there are enough plain janes to alter