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New Challenger is due soon, is this a threat to old muscle?

Started by 1969chargerrtse, October 21, 2007, 12:25:12 PM

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T3/RT

Quote from: hemihead on December 29, 2007, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: J-440 on December 29, 2007, 06:08:05 PM
  New Chally with the HEMI and 5 speed, modern amneties, and automatic everything...$45,000 (average).  Probably a heavy-ass car as well.  Decent gas mileage (of course you shouldn't worry about gas mileage when shelling out for a 50 grand car).  And within 6 months of hype and I gotta have it mentality, these cars will be everywhere. 
  My 68 Charger will be completed in late 08 for the same price and will completely kick the sh@t out of this car...all with modern amneties as well and will be an original car on the street.  If you have the money, great go buy a new Challenger.  Within 3 years the car will be worth 1/2 its value and you won't be the only kid on the block with the latest toy.  The classics will always be cool and worth a lot more.  In 2020 a 66-71 musclecar will still gain more looks than a new car ever will. 
  I will say to Dodge though that they have hit the bullseye with this car.  Very cool but just not worth my 50 grand.
Amen to that brother !   :cheers: These things will be bought by the same people that bought Camaros in the 70's and 80's and thought they were cool   :smilielol:

X3....The problem I foresee with the Challenger is, not very many people have even heard of the car. Charger, Camaro and Mustang have a name in modern times. If they would have done the Charger right in the first place I dont think there would be a need for a Challenger or Cuda today. Now the 2 door Charger design is under review. That I do want, and I want the cookie cutter 2gen design. They need to redeem the Charger name to fight Camaro/Mustang. Charger is the king of mopar. Challenger seems like the car nobody asked for. It really pisses me off when people say, "thats our 2door Charger". Sorry no it`s not! :flame:

1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2002 Chrysler Sebring LXi Conv.
2005 Chrysler 300C
2010 Dodge Challenger SRT

Ghoste

It's a two door, rear wheel drive, Dodge V8 powered car and it's new.  It's all good no matter what they call it.

T3/RT

Quote from: Ghoste on December 30, 2007, 01:25:35 PM
It's a two door, rear wheel drive, Dodge V8 powered car and it's new.  It's all good no matter what they call it.

I just think word of mouth is the greatest selling tool and the more established names will win that battle. I hope your right.

1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2002 Chrysler Sebring LXi Conv.
2005 Chrysler 300C
2010 Dodge Challenger SRT

TK73

Quote from: T3/RT on December 30, 2007, 01:10:40 AM

They need to redeem the Charger name to fight Camaro/Mustang. Charger is the king of mopar. Challenger seems like the car nobody asked for. It really pisses me off when people say, "thats our 2door Charger". Sorry no it`s not! :flame:


The Charger held its own weight in its class in the '60s and 70's but the CHALLENGER was the car that fought the Camaro and Mustang...

I'd be driving a 2-dr Charger TODAY if DCX had put one on the road.
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T3/RT

Quote from: TK73 on December 30, 2007, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: T3/RT on December 30, 2007, 01:10:40 AM

They need to redeem the Charger name to fight Camaro/Mustang. Charger is the king of mopar. Challenger seems like the car nobody asked for. It really pisses me off when people say, "thats our 2door Charger". Sorry no it`s not! :flame:


The Charger held its own weight in its class in the '60s and 70's but the CHALLENGER was the car that fought the Camaro and Mustang...

I'd be driving a 2-dr Charger TODAY if DCX had put one on the road.

I hear ya but, This aint the 60`s & 70`s and the Challenger didn`t do that well against those cars back then either. Camaro was sold all the way up until 2002, now it`s back.

1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2002 Chrysler Sebring LXi Conv.
2005 Chrysler 300C
2010 Dodge Challenger SRT

Ghoste

The big strike against the Challenger then was timing and quality control.  The party was pretty much over by 1970 (Camaro and Mustang had a huge following by then to carry them through) and the E-bodies in 1970 were commonly held to be lemons for quality.

440charger68

I think new muscle cars are somewhat to a threat to the old cars, only if they look too much alike. Im very happy the new charger looks nothing like the old, chargers are one of a kind and there aren't to many out there anymore.  With the new challenger, they better not over produce them like the mustang, mustangs are every where and they piss me off because there are so many of them, but at least people are getting back in the muscle car spirit. :icon_smile_big:
life's a garden, dig it.

sick dawg

Quote from: daytonalo on December 29, 2007, 08:47:33 AM
Cherry Hill Dodge is selling the First one to the highest bidder , this is what these criminals are doing . Send a check for with 5000 and write down how much you are willing to pay for , who ever has the highest bid wins , and they send the losing bid's deposit back

This sucks!  When Chevy came out with the ZR1 corvette my local Chevy dealer only got 3 and he did a raffle style drawing for them. If you wanted one he took a $10,000.00 check and an entry card. They picked 3 from the drum and they got to buy the cars. Now they didn't discount them and you had to pay sticker, but they didn't jack up the price either. One guy that got picked said he changed his mind and was no longer interested, so they just picked another entry from the drum and it was mine. Everybody else got their check sent back to them and the winners checks went for a deposit on the car.

squeakfinder


Taking into account that there are allready Mushstangs everywhere,

I don't think there will be that much of an effect.

It seems each time I take my 40 year old car out for a drive I get more and more people staring. So I think the interest in vintage muscle cars will continue to increase.

There won't be anymore of are Charger's produced, but there's gonna be gobs of the new muscle cars out there.




Still looking for 15x7 Appliance slotted mags.....

T3/RT

New & old cars are just different. I can have just as much(If not more)fun in my old Charger as I would with a new Charger.  In time the newer car no longer feels special(just another new car). The old cars are special. I owned a 68 & 70 Charger and in the same year the 68 gained frame rust from driving in the winter 2 consecutive yrs.(An easy repair but at the time I was young and didn't know any better) The 70 was rear ended while parked in my rather long driveway(someone drove in and smashed it). Now I am very conscious of any damage, rust or vandalism that could occur to my 69 R/T. My biggest reason for wanting a new Charger is to have a car that looks very close to a 2gen and I do not have to really worry about. A car that I can put through the punishment that I wouldn't subject my 69 too.(And I think would be about the coolest thing on the road)Basically a beater to my old iron. So after I shell out the $50k or so for the 2door Charger I will resume collecting old Chargers. It will probably be the last brand new car I purchase for some time.

Addendum: I can`t even stop for gas with my 69 without being mobbed by people wanting to talk or ask questions(which bugs the crap out of me)10 yrs. ago nobody seemed to care. I don`t know what happened. I`m afraid to even leave the car alone.

1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2002 Chrysler Sebring LXi Conv.
2005 Chrysler 300C
2010 Dodge Challenger SRT

squeakfinder

Quote from: T3/RT on December 30, 2007, 07:08:39 PM
New & old cars are just different. I can have just as much(If not more)fun in my old Charger as I would with a new Charger.  In time the newer car no longer feels special(just another new car). The old cars are special. I owned a 68 & 70 Charger and in the same year the 68 gained frame rust from driving in the winter 2 consecutive yrs.(An easy repair but at the time I was young and didn't know any better) The 70 was rear ended while parked in my rather long driveway(someone drove in and smashed it). Now I am very conscious of any damage, rust or vandalism that could occur to my 69 R/T. My biggest reason for wanting a new Charger is to have a car that looks very close to a 2gen and I do not have to really worry about. A car that I can put through the punishment that I wouldn't subject my 69 too.(And I think would be about the coolest thing on the road)Basically a beater to my old iron. So after I shell out the $50k or so for the 2door Charger I will resume collecting old Chargers. It will probably be the last brand new car I purchase for some time.

Addendum: I can`t even stop for gas with my 69 without being mobbed by people wanting to talk or ask questions(which bugs the crap out of me)10 yrs. ago nobody seemed to care. I don`t know what happened. I`m afraid to even leave the car alone.



Kind of makes it difficult to sleep in that hotel room when your on your way to a Charger gathering or other type of car show. And your Charger is out there all alone in that dark parking lot.

:scratchchin: If they only made hotel rooms big enough to park are cars inside so we could sleep with them.

Still looking for 15x7 Appliance slotted mags.....

T3/RT

Quote from: rotsparts on December 31, 2007, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: T3/RT on December 30, 2007, 07:08:39 PM
New & old cars are just different. I can have just as much(If not more)fun in my old Charger as I would with a new Charger.  In time the newer car no longer feels special(just another new car). The old cars are special. I owned a 68 & 70 Charger and in the same year the 68 gained frame rust from driving in the winter 2 consecutive yrs.(An easy repair but at the time I was young and didn't know any better) The 70 was rear ended while parked in my rather long driveway(someone drove in and smashed it). Now I am very conscious of any damage, rust or vandalism that could occur to my 69 R/T. My biggest reason for wanting a new Charger is to have a car that looks very close to a 2gen and I do not have to really worry about. A car that I can put through the punishment that I wouldn't subject my 69 too.(And I think would be about the coolest thing on the road)Basically a beater to my old iron. So after I shell out the $50k or so for the 2door Charger I will resume collecting old Chargers. It will probably be the last brand new car I purchase for some time.

Addendum: I can`t even stop for gas with my 69 without being mobbed by people wanting to talk or ask questions(which bugs the crap out of me)10 yrs. ago nobody seemed to care. I don`t know what happened. I`m afraid to even leave the car alone.



Kind of makes it difficult to sleep in that hotel room when your on your way to a Charger gathering or other type of car show. And your Charger is out there all alone in that dark parking lot.

:scratchchin: If they only made hotel rooms big enough to park are cars inside so we could sleep with them.



Maybe the more Chargers I have the less I will worry.  :lol: Probably not but it`s worth a try.

1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2002 Chrysler Sebring LXi Conv.
2005 Chrysler 300C
2010 Dodge Challenger SRT