New Challenger is due soon, is this a threat to old muscle?

[kylem4711]

i spoke to a rep from chrysler and he said for tthe first 4 months, it wil probably be hard to get your hands on one, because of mark ups and limited quantity,  but after that, they should be pretty reasonably prices,   he said it would compare in prices to the chargers,     

also, no talks of the convertible.....      he said theres a chance it will happen, but nothing AT ALL has been said about it.

he made sure to tell me that this would not be a specialty car like the viper or prowler.  this car will be made so that it willl be seen on the road.

he also said that they would like to compete in prices with the mustang,  but the challenger will be made much better than the mustang, so you will pay more to get better quality, blah blah.    man that guy hated mustangs too.... ha


anyway, take what i said with a grain of salt or whatever that saying is,

just thought i would pass along what he told me.





o yeah, i also told him that im mad at dodge for creating this new "charger 4 door" instead of creating the charger concept car that they showed.     he said yeah, i get that a lot, and he liked the concept more too.

[dukeboy_318]

i dont think so, the only thing it might do is allow more people the chance to own something called a challenger.  Im not going to sell my 74 charger and buy the new chally,  theres no way its going to kill the classic car market, if anythin itll make people want the old ones

[TK73]

he also said that they would like to compete in prices with the mustang,  but the challenger will be made much better than the mustang, so you will pay more to get better quality, blah blah.    man that guy hated mustangs too.... ha

Probably pissed 'cuz Mustangs have been flying off lots (over 350,000 sold in 3 years) and Damnler didn't give their dealers anything cool to sell...

[68charger383]

Probably pissed 'cuz Mustangs have been flying off lots (over 350,000 sold in 3 years) and Damnler didn't give their dealers anything cool to sell...

Kind of reminds me of the 60s..took GM and Mopar a few years to wake up and play catch up.

I plan on buying one once they come down to the Mustang price range. However, I'll want the SRT-8 or whatever they call the nice one and I'm sure that will be like the Shelby....only for the guy willing to pay $25K over sticker.

[moparstuart]

i spoke to a rep from chrysler and he said for tthe first 4 months, it wil probably be hard to get your hands on one, because of mark ups and limited quantity,  but after that, they should be pretty reasonably prices,   he said it would compare in prices to the chargers,     

also, no talks of the convertible.....      he said theres a chance it will happen, but nothing AT ALL has been said about it.

he made sure to tell me that this would not be a specialty car like the viper or prowler.  this car will be made so that it willl be seen on the road.

he also said that they would like to compete in prices with the mustang,  but the challenger will be made much better than the mustang, so you will pay more to get better quality, blah blah.    man that guy hated mustangs too.... ha


anyway, take what i said with a grain of salt or whatever that saying is,

just thought i would pass along what he told me.





o yeah, i also told him that im mad at dodge for creating this new "charger 4 door" instead of creating the charger concept car that they showed.     he said yeah, i get that a lot, and he liked the concept more too.

hopefully they wake up and make a convert   thats the one I wanna buy

[nh_mopar_fan]

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[68RT4ME]

Personally, I had the choice of waiting for the New Challenger or even getting a new Shelby or getting what I have now. In my mind, it was no choice at all. Hands down, I prefer to have my '69 and '71 over either one of those others.

For a daily driver, I can drive pretty much anything but you simply cannot beat the COOL factor of these old Chargers no matter how gussied up they make the newer cars.

[hemihead]

I think even when you take an old style, add GPS, seat warmers , etc, all you have is still a new car. Let the past die. Either buy a new car or buy a Classic.

[1969chargerrtse]

I think even when you take an old style, add GPS, seat warmers , etc, all you have is still a new car. Let the past die. Either buy a new car or buy a Classic.

Not sure I agree with that, but see the point.  The Mustang was a huge success, and If I was a stang guy, I'd have a Shelby Conv in my garage.  If they ever do the Charger correct like 2nd gen, Hmmm, I'd be tempted, or least want one for the kids.  I love the retro look stuff.   I think it will be neat to see old and new on the streets.  I think it will give more respect for the old when you see the new, to know the car was so loved, an updated copy was designed, built, and produced.  Now that's flattering! 

[devilgear]

I have been waiting for the new Challenger to come out since I saw the concept 2 years ago. I am geting one as soon as my 06 Charger is paid off. By then they will have waaay more options and colors as well as the rumors that there may be a new Cuda and a redisgned 2 door Charger. As soon as I get it, then the real work can begin on my 73 Charger....I still want to drive it in the mean time. I don't think it will hurt the sport at all. Just help it. I am putting an addition on my house just for all the cars..My wife is real happy aout that.HAHAHAHA.

[1969chargerrtse]

I have been waiting for the new Challenger to come out since I saw the concept 2 years ago. I am geting one as soon as my 06 Charger is paid off. By then they will have waaay more options and colors as well as the rumors that there may be a new Cuda and a redisgned 2 door Charger. As soon as I get it, then the real work can begin on my 73 Charger....I still want to drive it in the mean time. I don't think it will hurt the sport at all. Just help it. I am putting an addition on my house just for all the cars..My wife is real happy aout that.HAHAHAHA.

Boy Santa's been good to you!  Pay off the new Charger, buy a new Challenger, build a bigger garage for all the new cars, Dang, can I hang with you? 

[daytonalo]

Cherry Hill Dodge is selling the First one to the highest bidder , this is what these criminals are doing . Send a check for with 5000 and write down how much you are willing to pay for , who ever has the highest bid wins , and they send the losing bid's deposit back

[devilgear]

"Boy Santa's been good to you!  Pay off the new Charger, buy a new Challenger, build a bigger garage for all the new cars, Dang, can I hang with you?"

Sure come on up......HAHAHAHHA. You can help me roof....HHHAHAHAHA 

[1969chargerrtse]

"Boy Santa's been good to you!  Pay off the new Charger, buy a new Challenger, build a bigger garage for all the new cars, Dang, can I hang with you?"

Sure come on up......HAHAHAHHA. You can help me roof....HHHAHAHAHA 

Did you say up?    Oh, I don't do up.  I'm "up" in CT now, and that's to up for me as it is.     Thanks, anyway.

[devilgear]

I can't even spell where your from...HAHAHAH. I'm in Minnesota so I allways have to say "Up here"...HAHAHAHA

[TK73]

I found it interesting in one article that was posted around here that the Challenger has over 8600 pre-orders, wonder how many the Char-onet had before its 4-door self came out??

[hemihead]

Funny, it's the SAME car 

[TK73]

Funny, it's the SAME car 

Same difference as the '66 Charger being the same as the Coronet... 

I have been on the prowl for a new car the last few months, almost bought Scion Econobox.  I REALLY want a 2-door cool car and if there had been a Charger made (not a Char-onet) I'd be driving one now.  The Challenger will be at least a year before it hits my price range.  TEMPTED to go Mustang GT.

[Ghoste]

Funny, it's the SAME car 

So Trevor Creed was wrong and styling has a LOT to do with a cars excitement factor?  (it's a rhetorical question)

[TK73]

It ain't gonna fly, they'll cancel that car before it hits the pavement.

Here's why: "There is no market for two-doors."

Here's the proof to that statement: Mustang sales are ONLY 10,000 per MONTH.  If there was a market for 2-doors that would be higher   

[Charger_Fan]

You would think they'd be more than happy to have the sort of sales Mustangs enjoy...ant the sort of fan base they have too.
"No market for 2-doors".

[Ghoste]

We probably should cut ole Trev' a little slack, he was just bringing forward something that Daimler I'm sure thought would be a huge monster hit.  Combine a European touring sedan, a market they know and understand very well, with an uncultured American V-8 and an iconic name.
Besides, he didn't really design it did he?  I thought he was just the guy that was forced to hand out the kool-aid and then fall on his sword?

[J-440]

  New Chally with the HEMI and 5 speed, modern amneties, and automatic everything...$45,000 (average).  Probably a heavy-ass car as well.  Decent gas mileage (of course you shouldn't worry about gas mileage when shelling out for a 50 grand car).  And within 6 months of hype and I gotta have it mentality, these cars will be everywhere. 
  My 68 Charger will be completed in late 08 for the same price and will completely kick the sh@t out of this car...all with modern amneties as well and will be an original car on the street.  If you have the money, great go buy a new Challenger.  Within 3 years the car will be worth 1/2 its value and you won't be the only kid on the block with the latest toy.  The classics will always be cool and worth a lot more.  In 2020 a 66-71 musclecar will still gain more looks than a new car ever will. 
  I will say to Dodge though that they have hit the bullseye with this car.  Very cool but just not worth my 50 grand.

[hemihead]

  New Chally with the HEMI and 5 speed, modern amneties, and automatic everything...$45,000 (average).  Probably a heavy-ass car as well.  Decent gas mileage (of course you shouldn't worry about gas mileage when shelling out for a 50 grand car).  And within 6 months of hype and I gotta have it mentality, these cars will be everywhere. 
  My 68 Charger will be completed in late 08 for the same price and will completely kick the sh@t out of this car...all with modern amneties as well and will be an original car on the street.  If you have the money, great go buy a new Challenger.  Within 3 years the car will be worth 1/2 its value and you won't be the only kid on the block with the latest toy.  The classics will always be cool and worth a lot more.  In 2020 a 66-71 musclecar will still gain more looks than a new car ever will. 
  I will say to Dodge though that they have hit the bullseye with this car.  Very cool but just not worth my 50 grand.

Amen to that brother !    These things will be bought by the same people that bought Camaros in the 70's and 80's and thought they were cool   

[devilgear]

$50,000? The first year yes, but they will drop the following year. I will get one then. Just like the new Charger droped in price a year later. 6 months they will lose half the value? Yeah your right, but what if we hold on to them for 30 years like others did with there cars? They are sure to be worth more as well. I for one will not get one to collect, I will drive it, and so what if lots of people have them. Buy 2 for all I care as long as I have one. I'll keep my 73 too. Lot's of people have this bitter attitude towards anything new-"I have something older therefore it's better than yours". What about the people who said these new fangled Chargers are nothng compared to my Olds Delta 88 or 57 Chevy? So you have an old Charger, big deal. So you have a new Charger-same big deal. Stop being scared of the future and remember our old cars were the future in the past My point is to enjoy them all. Guitars and cars are my passions. And I dig them all.....Well not Fords, but you know what I mean..