Correct Engine Orange?

[Chatt69chgr]

I've got a 69 charger that I am putting a 440 in.  I want to paint the engine the correct engine orange for 69.  In researching this I have found out the following:
Mopar has marketed several orange spray paints.  The 2007 Restoration Parts Source Book lists P4120751 called Race Hemi Orange Engine Paint (1964, 65 & 68 Race Hemi); P4349216 called Street Hemi Orange Engine Paint (1966-71); and P5007733 called Hemi Restoration Orange Engine Paint (66-71 Street Hemi).  I have read on other posts here that the P4349216 is supposedly the right one and that it used to come in a can with a Orange cap but has been changed to a blue and white can with an AB suffix on the part number and is now made in Canada----supposedly a slightly different shade.
Then there is Dupli-Color Chrysler Orange, #DE1622.  And Duplicolor Chevrolet Orange, #DE1620 (supposedly the Dukes of Hazzard color). And Plasti-kote Orange #HP-15 hi-temp engine paint (my friend found this at Tractor Supply and swears it's the correct color---note that Tractor Supply is discontinuing this but you can order it---nobody else besides Carquest seems to have it).  And Plasti-kote Orange #2210 mentioned by someone in another post.

Finally, a post on EBAY said about the P4349216 (old formulation and no longer available) that it was used on 426 engines between 66-71 as well as high performance 383 & 440 engines between 69-71 and 340's for 70 & 71.

So what is the right one to use?  From what I have seen, it looks like the current MOPAR P4349216AB would be correct.  I have heard it doesn't spray well---kind of watery.  So would any of the Duplicolor or Plastikote products be the same shade?  I have a feeling they would be a heck of a lot cheaper.  I know you can get the Duplicolor stuff at Oreilly and Walmart.  And the guy at Tractor Supply said he could order the Plastikote HP-15 for me---single cans or cases of 6.   

[Chatt69chgr]

Looks like I stumped the panel on this one.  I have done some experiments on my own with the Plasti-kote product, the two Duplicolor products and the Street Hemi Orange--P4349216.  The first three do not look like the Street Hemi Orange.  So I think it is the right color.  I sprayed some on the back of a tin can and a friend took it down to the local auto paint place and they matched it.  Looks real good to me and I think the paint they have is probably superior to that stuff Mopar sells.  So that's what he and I are going to use on our engines.

[Charger-Bodie]

the orange we spray on them is a mid 70s jeep color called manerine orange this is the closest thing available to the the discontinued number for the orange gine paint mid 70s jeep code 9w. we spray them with delstar ppg acrilyc enamel.

[berna4406]

 You can go to www.rogergisonautorestorations.com they have the correct engine color that you are looking for.
                             Good Luck Sam

[Mike DC]

 
Orange paint shades.  At the Dukes/GL message boards we've absolutely beaten this topic TO DEATH.

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The "Hemi Orange" paint shade that they sprayed on the engines is NOT the same shade of orange as the Hemi Orange/Tor-Red paint shade that the factory sprayed on the car bodies.  (It's not just a technicality of the paint batches, or the spraying preparation, or something.  It's two legitimately different colors.)

The engine-paint "Hemi" is roughly like the Plasti-Kote stuff.
The body-paint "Hemi" has more red pigment in it.


Here's the order from the most reddish, to the most yellowish:

1.  Mopar "Hemi Orange/Tor-Red" body paint

2.  Chevrolet "Hugger Orange"

3.  Mopar "Hemi Orange" engine enamel





 

[y3chargerrt]

For god's sake DON'T paint your engine Chevrolet orange!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chatt69chgr]

Hey Mike DC-----The color you identify as Hemi Orange Engine Paint (top row--middle) is the same as the Mopar P4349216. 

I was aware that the body color orange and the engine orange were two different shades but I appreciate you noting that. 

My last experiment is to go to O'reillys as they carry the VHT line of high temp/engine paints and pick up a can of their Chrysler Hemi Orange Engine Enamel (550 degrees)  to see what shade it is.  That's VHT part number SP-120.  Hopefully, it they don't have it in stock they can order it for me.  If it's the same shade it would be cheaper than having it mixed locally and put in a can at $20/can and buying the Mopar stuff that doesn't spray too good.  I'd have to order it too.  I think it goes for around $10 per can from Mopar.  Not exactly sure what the VHT sells for but I think it's less than $10/can.  Probably crazy doing all of this but I just like to figure little things like this out.

[Chatt69chgr]

My friend Wayne graciously lent me his can of the new Street Hemi Orange from Mopar, Part Number 4349216AB.  I have now compared it to the old 4349216  (without the AB) and can say that they are not the same shade.  I have tried several other street hemi oranges and the one that is closest to the new Mopar 4349216AB is, oddly enough, Dupli-Color number 1652 called Chrysler Hemi Orange.  None of the colors I have tested is the same as the 4349216.  This was the previous street hemi orange that Mopar had that came in the can with the orange plastic cap.  I think this is the right one.  Wayne carried a tin can down to Autocolor that had the bottom painted with this paint and they mixed some that was dead on.  The only bad part is they charge $20 to mix and put it in a spray can.  I plan on going with this.