Gas station boycott lets stand up and be heard

[73dodge]

Why don't none of you guys blame big government for part of the problem. Heck if they stop gouging us with gas taxes and for just ONE day stop taxing a gallon of gas, state and federal the price of gas would go down almost .50 or more a gallon.


No one bitches about the federal government gouging us at the pump?

Wrong, I bitched about the politicians and the govt. and Troy decided to correct me on it.  If Clinton was in office I guarantee this wouldn't happen.  Bush and Cheney and all the other pablem puking members of congress  that never worked a day in their lives are making more money than god and don't give a rats ass about the working man.  Just my 5cents

That's where you are wrong, if you remember and it sounds like you don't, right at the last several months of Clintoons regime gas prices spiked at the time and they were predicting 3 dollar gas at the end of 2000. No one blamed Clintoon for being in bed with the oil companies. Bush is from texas and they have oil so it's guilt by association high oil prices and it's bushes fault, no one blamed slick willie back in 2000, why is that?


And in case you think that the democrats give a rats a$$ about high gas prices, they WANT 5.00+ a gallon gas. They want you to stop driving, only ones they want driving are wealthy people who can afford gas for their big SUV's and afford $150.00 to fill up the gas tank. Then to atone for the sin of global warming they can then buy carbon credits to assuage their guilt for contributing to Global Warming.

Meanwhile you and I are going to have to fork over $$$$ to buy government approved low emissions electric golf carts or you will get a government check to buy a nice mountain bike to run your kids around to school.

[70charger_boy]

Why don't none of you guys blame big government for part of the problem. Heck if they stop gouging us with gas taxes and for just ONE day stop taxing a gallon of gas, state and federal the price of gas would go down almost .50 or more a gallon.


No one bitches about the federal government gouging us at the pump?

Wrong, I bitched about the politicians and the govt. and Troy decided to correct me on it.  If Clinton was in office I guarantee this wouldn't happen.  Bush and Cheney and all the other pablem puking members of congress  that never worked a day in their lives are making more money than god and don't give a rats ass about the working man.  Just my 5cents

That's where you are wrong, if you remember and it sounds like you don't, right at the last several months of Clintoons regime gas prices spiked at the time and they were predicting 3 dollar gas at the end of 2000. No one blamed Clintoon for being in bed with the oil companies. Bush is from texas and they have oil so it's guilt by association high oil prices and it's bushes fault, no one blamed slick willie back in 2000, why is that?


And in case you think that the democrats give a rats a$$ about high gas prices, they WANT 5.00+ a gallon gas. They want you to stop driving, only ones they want driving are wealthy people who can afford gas for their big SUV's and afford $150.00 to fill up the gas tank. Then to atone for the sin of global warming they can then buy carbon credits to assuage their guilt for contributing to Global Warming.

Meanwhile you and I are going to have to fork over $$$$ to buy government approved low emissions electric golf carts or you will get a government check to buy a nice mountain bike to run your kids around to school.

[SeattleCharger]

My brother's friend is a dodge truck fanatic, has a barn with all the bio diesel conversion equipment he bought for a few grand.
  Goes to local fast food places and picks up their french fry grease, etc. for free.   

          His cost per gallon of bio diesel?  about forty or fifty cents a gallon.   These guys build up their dodge trucks for 6 700hp and 6 7 800 ft. lbs. torque,  runs just as good on bio as reg. diesel.  I know this doesn't help charger owners, but if a group of people got together and invested in the bio diesel equipment, and had their reg. driver be a diesel, you could save some money after a while.
    A 3/4 ton ext. cab full size 4x4 diesel dodge truck will get almost 20 mpg.,  that isn't that great, but if your fuel is 50 cents a gallon, . . . 

[Brock Samson]

This tesla battery news just in!

http://news.google.com/news?tab=wn&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&ncl=1116577624   

troy will get it..

[Troy]

Again, covered all the gas taxes elsewhere several times...

I have no problem with gas taxes since they are the primary source of funding for highway projects. I drive on the roads and I like them to be nice. However, the new gas taxes that are being proposed are just a money grab.

And remember that this is not the place for political discussion...

Troy

[PocketThunder]

My brother's friend is a dodge truck fanatic, has a barn with all the bio diesel conversion equipment he bought for a few grand.
  Goes to local fast food places and picks up their french fry grease, etc. for free.   

          His cost per gallon of bio diesel?  about forty or fifty cents a gallon.   These guys build up their dodge trucks for 6 700hp and 6 7 800 ft. lbs. torque,  runs just as good on bio as reg. diesel.  I know this doesn't help charger owners, but if a group of people got together and invested in the bio diesel equipment, and had their reg. driver be a diesel, you could save some money after a while.
    A 3/4 ton ext. cab full size 4x4 diesel dodge truck will get almost 20 mpg.,  that isn't that great, but if your fuel is 50 cents a gallon, . . . 

Hmmmm     a bio-diesel powered '69 Charger?  That might be worth the effort...  I already lined up all the free fry oil i want from the Chinese Dynasty by my house...  I was gonna get a cummins and convert it over but now you've got me thinking..

A cummins in the Charger?  Has anyone done this yet?  Would there be a better diesel engine to use as far as weight and power?  Would a diesel in a Charger be a good fit or would it look like socks on a Rooster?

[SeattleCharger]

My brother's friend is a dodge truck fanatic, has a barn with all the bio diesel conversion equipment he bought for a few grand.
  Goes to local fast food places and picks up their french fry grease, etc. for free.   

          His cost per gallon of bio diesel?  about forty or fifty cents a gallon.   These guys build up their dodge trucks for 6 700hp and 6 7 800 ft. lbs. torque,  runs just as good on bio as reg. diesel.  I know this doesn't help charger owners, but if a group of people got together and invested in the bio diesel equipment, and had their reg. driver be a diesel, you could save some money after a while.
    A 3/4 ton ext. cab full size 4x4 diesel dodge truck will get almost 20 mpg.,  that isn't that great, but if your fuel is 50 cents a gallon, . . . 

Hmmmm     a bio-diesel powered '69 Charger?  That might be worth the effort...  I already lined up all the free fry oil i want from the Chinese Dynasty by my house...  I was gonna get a cummins and convert it over but now you've got me thinking..

A cummins in the Charger?  Has anyone done this yet?  Would there be a better diesel engine to use as far as weight and power?  Would a diesel in a Charger be a good fit or would it look like socks on a Rooster?

It isn't that hard or expensive to get the cummins way up in hp and tq.,  if you could change the gearing or cam for the revving characteristics, but the biggest drawback I can see is the sound of the car.   a diesel cummings is pretty loud and distinct sounding,  would sort of ruin a charger, 
 
    many highend performance BMW's in europe are diesel now, maybe most, (not available here), I imagine they sound ok, and some newer diesel cars here don't sound like trucks, so maybe certain set ups or exhaust can change things.  If a diesel charger sounded close to a gas car and had super high hp. and longevity and reliability and you could get 50cents a gallon fuel, that would be tempting . . . 

[beedees]

My brother's friend is a dodge truck fanatic, has a barn with all the bio diesel conversion equipment he bought for a few grand.
  Goes to local fast food places and picks up their french fry grease, etc. for free.   

          His cost per gallon of bio diesel?  about forty or fifty cents a gallon.   These guys build up their dodge trucks for 6 700hp and 6 7 800 ft. lbs. torque,  runs just as good on bio as reg. diesel.  I know this doesn't help charger owners, but if a group of people got together and invested in the bio diesel equipment, and had their reg. driver be a diesel, you could save some money after a while.
    A 3/4 ton ext. cab full size 4x4 diesel dodge truck will get almost 20 mpg.,  that isn't that great, but if your fuel is 50 cents a gallon, . . . 

Hmmmm     a bio-diesel powered '69 Charger?  That might be worth the effort...  I already lined up all the free fry oil i want from the Chinese Dynasty by my house...  I was gonna get a cummins and convert it over but now you've got me thinking..

A cummins in the Charger?  Has anyone done this yet?  Would there be a better diesel engine to use as far as weight and power?  Would a diesel in a Charger be a good fit or would it look like socks on a Rooster?

It isn't that hard or expensive to get the cummins way up in hp and tq.,  if you could change the gearing or cam for the revving characteristics, but the biggest drawback I can see is the sound of the car.   a diesel cummings is pretty loud and distinct sounding,  would sort of ruin a charger, 
 
    many highend performance BMW's in europe are diesel now, maybe most, (not available here), I imagine they sound ok, and some newer diesel cars here don't sound like trucks, so maybe certain set ups or exhaust can change things.  If a diesel charger sounded close to a 440 gas car and had super high hp. and longevity and reliability and you could get 50cents a gallon fuel, that would be tempting . . . 

Just tell 'em it's a Hemi with a hole in the muffler.

[70charger_boy]

 

[my73charger]

Ok this is an interesting bit.  A gas station up here in Minnesota closed its pumps today in protest of the high prices.  She said she isn't making the big dough, the boys above her are so she is protesting.

[70charger_boy]

Ok this is an interesting bit.  A gas station up here in Minnesota closed its pumps today in protest of the high prices.  She said she isn't making the big dough, the boys above her are so she is protesting.

  I like it, but she's gonna need to sell alot of cigarettes and candy to pay the bills

[73dodge]

Ok this is an interesting bit.  A gas station up here in Minnesota closed its pumps today in protest of the high prices.  She said she isn't making the big dough, the boys above her are so she is protesting.

  I like it, but she's gonna need to sell alot of cigarettes and candy to pay the bills

my brother managed a gas station here in Ohio and he said the biggest mover in the store that brought in the most profit was the energy drinks they sold them by the ton

[70charger_boy]

Well, I'm glad to see someone taking a stand.  That is what this thread is about.  The station owner from Wisconsin just made the national news and he is gaining support.  I'm sure there are alot of people that don't have the balls to do what he did, because of bills to pay and all.

[Troy]

This is getaway day for what's looked at as the unofficial start of summer. Millions of people will be climbing into their cars or getting on airplanes for the Memorial Day weekend.

Gas prices are high: averaging $3.23 a gallon. But that's not expected to keep people from traveling. AAA says it thinks people will still take their summer vacations but will try to spend less on hotels and restaurants.

So what would make people change their plans? A recent Washington Post-ABC News poll found that gasoline would have to reach $4.38 a gallon before Americans would significantly cut back on their driving.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070525/ap_on_re_us/holiday_travel



Troy

[73dodge]

This is getaway day for what's looked at as the unofficial start of summer. Millions of people will be climbing into their cars or getting on airplanes for the Memorial Day weekend.

Gas prices are high: averaging $3.23 a gallon. But that's not expected to keep people from traveling. AAA says it thinks people will still take their summer vacations but will try to spend less on hotels and restaurants.

So what would make people change their plans? A recent Washington Post-ABC News poll found that gasoline would have to reach $4.38 a gallon before Americans would significantly cut back on their driving.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070525/ap_on_re_us/holiday_travel



Troy

Great now the politicians have a number that they can shoot for, to get us dumb masses to stop buying SUV's and driving our gas guzzling, green house gas producing fossil fuel burning internal combustion engine pollution machines. Then they'll buy us all bikes to get around on.

Then the only ones who will be able to afford to drive will be the well meaning super rich liberal politician who can pass feel good legislation designed to punish oil companies and then they can buy carbon credits for themselves so that they sooth their guilty conciensce for driving the 8 door Chevy Blazer that gets 3 miles to the gallon.


Just so you guys know, my 1999 Dodge Intrepid averages 75 MPG with a 2.7 Liter V-6, how do you ask? Well I fill the tank and then the only driving I do is from my house to the airport parking on Monday and then back home on friday when I get home from traveling. I travel so much I usually fill the tank about once a month..............   

[69_500]

Well in case your not as ignorant as you appear by that last thread. The only way its going to average 75 mpg, is if your towing it. Or including the miles that you fly by airplane.

Gas prices are what they are. And boycotting certain stations will gain you nothing. Check into it, no matter which station your purchasing gas from, it all comes from the same source. Same plants here in America even. Same tankers. Just gets a different set of cleaners, and solutions in according to which station its going to. The oil companies won't back down. They own a commodity, which we all want/need. They know it, and we know it. We still have cheaper gas than 90% of the world. yeah we are the largest user of it as well. Which is why we get a break. We aren't getting as much of a break on price as we have in  the past. If you compare inflation of everything else in america from 35 years ago, the price of  gas is just now getting to where it matches the price increase of everything else over the past 35 years. Average price of a house 35 years ago, its nearly 10 times that much now for the same house. Gas 35 years ago, around 0.35 per gallon, now its about $3.50 national average per gallon. Same rate, 10 time as much.

[70charger_boy]

Well in case your not as ignorant as you appear by that last thread. The only way its going to average 75 mpg, is if your towing it. Or including the miles that you fly by airplane.

Gas prices are what they are. And boycotting certain stations will gain you nothing. Check into it, no matter which station your purchasing gas from, it all comes from the same source. Same plants here in America even. Same tankers. Just gets a different set of cleaners, and solutions in according to which station its going to. The oil companies won't back down. They own a commodity, which we all want/need. They know it, and we know it. We still have cheaper gas than 90% of the world. yeah we are the largest user of it as well. Which is why we get a break. We aren't getting as much of a break on price as we have in  the past. If you compare inflation of everything else in america from 35 years ago, the price of  gas is just now getting to where it matches the price increase of everything else over the past 35 years. Average price of a house 35 years ago, its nearly 10 times that much now for the same house. Gas 35 years ago, around 0.35 per gallon, now its about $3.50 national average per gallon. Same rate, 10 time as much.

Go ahead and believe what you read and see in the news.  All that is propaganda spread to stupid americans to justify the huge profits their making.
Hmmm...let me see.

In November, of the year 2000, gas here in Rhode Island was .99 cents a gallon.  Now, it is $3.19 a gallon..so..it went up 220% in 6 1/2 years.
So, does that mean that my pay went up 220%?

I'm paying $1.54 for my Tim Hortons coffee today. 6 years ago I was paying $1.45.  Coffee is a heavily traded commodity, too.  Many americans get live without coffe.  Are we willing to pay 50 dollars a cup?

[69_500]

Do you completely read things that people post? Or only read and hear what you want to hear? I didn't make any mention over the to price increase over the last 6 years, it clearly said "35 years".

Just because we managed to not incure much inflation on the price of fuel over a span of 27-30 years doesn't mean that it would always continue. READ the whole thing next time.

As far as believing american propaganda, well having lived a large portion of my life outside of the USA, I can tell you this much. I don't believe everything I read, without doing research for myself.

[70charger_boy]

Then we can agree on not believing everything we read

[Brock Samson]

Great now the politicians have a number that they can shoot for, to get us dumb masses to stop buying SUV's and driving our gas guzzling, green house gas producing fossil fuel burning internal combustion engine pollution machines. Then they'll buy us all bikes to get around on.

Then the only ones who will be able to afford to drive will be the well meaning super rich liberal politician who can pass feel good legislation designed to punish oil companies and then they can buy carbon credits for themselves so that they sooth their guilty conciensce for driving the 8 door Chevy Blazer that gets 3 miles to the gallon.

Just so you guys know, my 1999 Dodge Intrepid averages 75 MPG with a 2.7 Liter V-6, how do you ask? Well I fill the tank and then the only driving I do is from my house to the airport parking on Monday and then back home on friday when I get home from traveling. I travel so much I usually fill the tank about once a month..............   

  and from Chargerboy...

"Go ahead and believe what you read and see in the news.  All that is propaganda spread to stupid americans to justify the huge profits their making.Hmmm...let me see.

In November, of the year 2000, gas here in Rhode Island was .99 cents a gallon.  Now, it is $3.19 a gallon..so..it went up 220% in 6 1/2 years.
So, does that mean that my pay went up 220%?

I'm paying $1.54 for my Tim Hortons coffee today. 6 years ago I was paying $1.45.  Coffee is a heavily traded commodity, too.  Many americans get live without coffe.  Are we willing to pay 50 dollars a cup?"


     So, this is an emotional argument with no basis in reality then?..

    You Want cheap gas to run your Gas Hog Muscle Car/s and full size trucks and then complain about it too,.. o.k. sure sure dudes,.. whatever,..
maybe you should complain that no one comes out to check your oil or gives you green or pink stamps for some free dishes...
   One thing that seems to be forgotten is the effect of a free market economy in what were formerly third world nations who now aspire to the American  example means they are now compeating with us americans  for the same resources...
  I wont mention any names... 

btw: Year 2000 was an election year... 


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[73dodge]

Well in case your not as ignorant as you appear by that last thread. The only way its going to average 75 mpg, is if your towing it. Or including the miles that you fly by airplane.

Okay let me explain the 75MPG comment since you see fit to question my intelligence, I fill my tank on Monday April 2 with gas with whatever it costs to fill it. then that morning I drive to airport parking 25 miles away and my car sits at the long term parking lot for the week not moving and using gas. I get home on that Friday and low and behold I still have a full tank of gas minus the gallon half gallon or so that I used to get to the airport parking, I then drive home the 25 miles. The car sits all weekend and then on the following Monday I drive back to the airport parking and my car sits for the week and then I drive home that friday with a little less gas in my tank that friday. So by April 30 of that month I still have some gas left in my tank and I only filled it once in that whole month.

My 75mpg comment was meant as a humorous nonsensical comment tacked on the end of another nonsensical rant comment made solely to bash rich liberals and direct blame to the demoncrats and to throw my 2cents on this stupid thread blaming oil companies for high gas prices.

Which in the end does nothing more than to increase my post count which is what I intended to do all along.

So to answer your question I am not as IGNORANT as you think I am............................

[Mike DC]

If YOU were a big oil company, would YOU treat the American public with any respect at this point?
   
 

[RD]

If YOU were a big oil company, would YOU treat the American public with any respect at this point?
   
 

I do not believe it is a respect issue... but then again... I am somewhat confused by your statement.  Could you clarify?

[70charger_boy]

 

[AmadeusCharger500]

Doing something about it in our daily decisions. Once a day, once a month, or once a year. We can't expect to go on consuming a non renewable fossil fuel for very long. We have been conditioned to live on petroleum products. We can condition ourselves away from them. We can still be driving our mopars in 30 years if we make better decisions starting now.