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Shifter - What am I missing?

Started by Sinister68, April 14, 2007, 11:01:02 PM

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Sinister68

The Keisler saga continues.  As you can see from the photos, I must be missing something.  The trans is bolted to the crossmember and the engine, but the center console alignment is way off.   ???  :o  :brickwall:





-James
2013 Challenger SRT - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1968 Charger (R/T)
6.4 Hemi/Auto - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 440 4bbl/5 Speed/Dana 3.54

kab69440

My guess is that you need a non-console Pistol Grip shifter. The shift handle you have is designed for a side loader tranny, and is offset to pop up in the center of the console. The factory style  4 gear shifter plate also has the boot hole roughly an inch and a half farther forward. Here is a pic of my 4 gear plate and my auto plate side by side, to give you an idea where the hole needs to be centered.
Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not;  a sense of humor to console him for what he is.      Francis Bacon

WANT TO BUY:
Looking for a CD by  'The Sub-Mersians'  entitled "Raw Love Songs From My Garage To Your Bedroom"

Also, any of the various surf-revival compilation albums this band has contributed to.
Thank you,    Kenny

Jesus drove a Honda. He wasn't proud of it, though...
John 12: 49     "...for I did not speak of my own Accord."

Sinister68

Thanks!   ;)

Chalk up yet another screw up for Keisler!   :flame:
-James
2013 Challenger SRT - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1968 Charger (R/T)
6.4 Hemi/Auto - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 440 4bbl/5 Speed/Dana 3.54

Charger-Bodie

is that shifter from kiesler? and also the adapter looks alot dif from mine althou mine in for a round stem shifter all from kiesler
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Sinister68

Yep, its all from Keisler.  I've sent them an email with those photos asking them to explain WTF is going on.

Looks like it will be another week before I can even drive this thing.  Thanks to Keisler this install is going on 2 MONTHS now.

:rotz:  :rotz:  :rotz:  ::)  :eyes:
-James
2013 Challenger SRT - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1968 Charger (R/T)
6.4 Hemi/Auto - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 440 4bbl/5 Speed/Dana 3.54

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: Sinister68 on April 15, 2007, 01:29:33 PM
Yep, its all from Keisler.  I've sent them an email with those photos asking them to explain WTF is going on.

Looks like it will be another week before I can even drive this thing.  Thanks to Keisler this install is going on 2 MONTHS now.

:rotz:  :rotz:  :rotz:  ::)  :eyes:

i guess i must have really gotten lucky cause mine went real smooth with the only prob being a wrong speedo cable .........well anyway good luck
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Sinister68

1hot68, is your shifter a different shape or length?  How different is your adapter?  I'm just trying to understand how the shifter and adapter is supposed to look in order to exit through the center of the console hole.
-James
2013 Challenger SRT - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1968 Charger (R/T)
6.4 Hemi/Auto - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 440 4bbl/5 Speed/Dana 3.54

Charger-Bodie

these are a couple pics and one from keislers site not much help thou probley
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Sinister68

Thanks, 1hot68.

At least the shifter is coming through the floor in the same place, but I'm not sure your shifter would fit through the center console either.  Its difficult to tell.   :icon_smile_sad:

I may have to move the center console toward the passenger side to make this contraption work.  :rotz:
-James
2013 Challenger SRT - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1968 Charger (R/T)
6.4 Hemi/Auto - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 440 4bbl/5 Speed/Dana 3.54

kab69440

The console does not ride in the geometric center of the car, it is offset to the passenger side a hair under 2".  That could be part of your problem.
Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not;  a sense of humor to console him for what he is.      Francis Bacon

WANT TO BUY:
Looking for a CD by  'The Sub-Mersians'  entitled "Raw Love Songs From My Garage To Your Bedroom"

Also, any of the various surf-revival compilation albums this band has contributed to.
Thank you,    Kenny

Jesus drove a Honda. He wasn't proud of it, though...
John 12: 49     "...for I did not speak of my own Accord."

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: Sinister68 on April 15, 2007, 07:55:34 PM
Thanks, 1hot68.

At least the shifter is coming through the floor in the same place, but I'm not sure your shifter would fit through the center console either.  Its difficult to tell.   :icon_smile_sad:

I may have to move the center console toward the passenger side to make this contraption work.  :rotz:
my shifter does come thru where its suppoed to and the console is mounted to stock brackets too are you trying to center the console in the car do you have the brackets in the right place ? did youre car have a console orig?
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Charger-Bodie

i also just noticed youre top plate is not kosher the hole is too far back is it a moded auto plate ?................................can you flip youre adapter brkt ove and mount the shifter to the left further that way?
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Sinister68

Thanks for the input guys!

My center console is factory but it appears to be mounted slightly to the driver's side, not the passenger side.  (The build date is "928" which I assume to mean an 1967 early production model.)  ???   The console is for a factory automatic.

EDIT: I just got an answer from Keisler which basically states that I have to turn the shifter nub around so that the "flat" spot of the nub faces the driver's side, even though it came that way from Keisler.  :flame: They didn't mention anything about the actual shifter itself (which is what I thought was part of the problem.)  I'm not sure even that will work since that will only buy me another ~ 1".  As for the center console 'hole' I guess I'll have to purchase a 4-speed console plate - WTH...Since my console is 40 year old faded/cracked stuff, I might as well get the whole thing, console, plates, and all.   :rotz:

BTW, that's an awesome looking Charger, 1hot68!
-James
2013 Challenger SRT - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1968 Charger (R/T)
6.4 Hemi/Auto - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 440 4bbl/5 Speed/Dana 3.54

Charger-Bodie

thanks man and best of lck to you i hope it all works out for you!!
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Charger-Bodie

here are a couple more pics i just took, the one shows how the console is centerd to the ashtray , the other pic is just a freebie :flame:
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............