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What's a "nappy-headed ho"?

Started by Shakey, April 12, 2007, 08:50:27 AM

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Ponch ®

Quote from: Troy on April 12, 2007, 05:12:29 PM
The problem with saying "don't listen" is that millions of sheeple are more than willing to repeat every word from their favorite host at work, the grocery store, restaurants, bars, and even on internet forums.

Troy


Yeah, but then again, the "sheep" argument applies to EVERYTHING - radio, books, TV, movies.  People tend to listen to whatever they agree with anyway. You'll have the right wing wackos praising everything Rush says ("he tells it like it is") and the lefty liberals bringing up Al Gore and his movie every time the thermometer goes over 80F. I listen to Stern for the lesbians and the fart jokes.  :icon_smile_big:
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not to stir the pot,but my radio has a lot of different stations,when i dont like something on one,i put on a different channel :brickwall:

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Quote from: Shakey on April 12, 2007, 08:50:27 AM
I know what a ho is, not sure about the "nappy-headed" part.

Anyone?





THIS is a nappy-headed ho:



Troy

I suppose it could be worse, the ladies I work next to in the office are HUGE fans of American Idol and Dancing with the Stars. As ridiculous as I find those shows I'd rather overhear that instead of political rants (like the guy behind me). Every now and then they throw out some sports scores as they are big fans of the local college and pro teams.

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Quote from: GTX on April 12, 2007, 05:28:30 PM
 
Everyone has a right to think what they choose and freedom of speech goes a long way but it was never intended to allow people to say such things as that.

:soapbox:

Actually, that's precisely the sort of thing that freedom of speech is supposed to protect. It's not like you need freedom of speech protection to say "puppies are cute".
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Troy

Quote from: GTX on April 12, 2007, 05:28:30 PM
Society has to constantly be driven to higher standards or it will begin to falter and fail. It's never acceptable to say the things that many of these shock jocks say and anyone who is in a position to be heard or seen must be held to a basic standard of conduct and it must be enforced.

The behavior that is common today would never be accepted just ten years ago and it will continue unless we draw a line and say no more of that, it's not acceptable in our society. 
If I were to make those comments in public I'd certainly get in trouble and may even get a thrashing and deservedly so. Why then would is be ok to allow someone on the radio or tv to talk like that?
Everyone has a right to think what they choose and freedom of speech goes a long way but it was never intended to allow people to say such things as that. It also doesn't cover slander or defamation. 
In my opinion we have all sat back far too long and given these people permission to say and do whatever they please and they continue to push the limits looking for more shock value and thus ratings and fame. It's time to tell them that enough is enough and poor taste is not going to be tolerated.

Whatever happened to basic manners and class? It seems that in America class is being replaced with crass.

The problem with changing the station is that you may but a thousand others don't and then they begin talking and acting like that too assuming  that it's acceptable.

:soapbox:
I thought you were talking about this site for a minute there... ;)

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Ponch ®

Quote from: GTX on April 12, 2007, 05:36:43 PM


A thousand 1st amendment attorneys and the supreme court disagree but that argument rages on.
Everyone is in favor of allowing liberal 1st amendment interpretation until it happens to them.   

The problem is that a lot people believe in freedom of speech and the 1st amendment as long as they agree with what is being said - and that applies to both sides of the political spectrum, not just "liberals" or "conservatives".
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Quote from: GTX on April 12, 2007, 05:52:02 PM
I agree, people should be allowed to speak their minds without interference but only as long as it doesn't infringe on others rights or damage them....unless it's true and can be proved.
That's the letter of the law, the spirit is what gets debated and most feel that the spirit included calling names.
Either way, I just don't see a moral right to publicly humiliate people with racial or sexist comments. That doesn't further our society and in fact sends the wrong message which is the crux of the issue. People need to be held accountable for their actions and learn that doing as Imus did isn't correct here. I guess though that there will always be people pushing limits to further their own agendas.

The point isn't whether what Imus said was "correct" or not. I believe that no matter how objectionable something is, the person should be able to say it. Having said that, the person needs to be aware that there may  be repercussions. For example, I should have the right to go up to Mike Tyson and call him the n-word, but I better know that I'm gonna get my ass whupped and my ear bitten off.


QuoteYou can bet that if someone got on the radio and called Imus something equal then he'd be crying foul.

Howard has been calling him worse things for years, and he either didn't care or chose to ignore it.
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Spike

Quote from: Ponch ® on April 12, 2007, 05:11:04 PM


. Are you really that dense?  You're supposed to read, comprehend, and then post.

What a class act.

Ponch ®

Quote from: Spike on April 12, 2007, 06:04:17 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on April 12, 2007, 05:11:04 PM


. Are you really that dense?  You're supposed to read, comprehend, and then post.

What a class act.

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Quote from: Ponch ® on April 12, 2007, 05:56:02 PM

The point isn't whether what Imus said was "correct" or not. I believe that no matter how objectionable something is, the person should be able to say it. Having said that, the person needs to be aware that there may  be repercussions. For example, I should have the right to go up to Mike Tyson and call him the n-word, but I better know that I'm gonna get my ass whupped and my ear bitten off.


There is the crux of the situation right there. ANd the reprecussions have NOTHING to do with the "reverends". Imus is a moron, plain and simple.  He said something stupid he got his hand slapped, it's time to get on with life. This will be one of those stupid incidents that we will hear about ad nauseum.
THere are a lot of people that think what they say should have NO reprecussions.

The people from rutgers (players and coaches) are what has been giving this whole thing life.

Somebody hurt their feelings and ruined their whole life and they can no longer function because of it. Right , whatever, want some cheese with that whine?!?!?!?!  :rotz:

Imus is an idiot for what he said, gotta love the fact that the guys on the air with him at the time and LAUGHED WITH HIM when he said it, are now saying how shocked that they are that Imus is racist! PLEASE they are just as wrong!

The WHOLE MESS is RIDICULOUS and is blown WAY out of proportion.

I can not STAND Don Imus, but GEEZZZ GET OVER IT. Life goes on!

And oh yeah, it would be FUN to give Howard Stern one of these!  :nutkick:

Ponch ®

Quote from: GTX on April 12, 2007, 06:14:39 PM
I agree......to a point. There is a bit of a difference between saying something one on one and announcing it on the air (the FCC has rules about that stuff) or in print  but I see the point. I can walk up to anyone and cuss him out using all sorts of foul words but according to the FCC I can't do it on the air, there are different rules and responsiblitites and that's partly my point.  I just think that we as a people need to tone down the crudity and crass behavior. How many kids walk around calling girls ho's and bitches because they hear it and think it's cool and acceptable?  The bar needs to be raised, not lowered.

With that I'm going to back out of this since it's really a no win situation. I don't care to force my views on others and I'm not going to accept that Imus was right or that we should tolerate people like him or Howard Stern.
I spoke my views, some agree and some don't which is fine, I'll wager that the majority do agree but it doesn't really matter since I'm not a decision maker nor care to be one.

I can certainly respect your opinion - even if you think Howard is intolerable.  What I don't get is sanctimonious characters like this Spike fella, who insists that people should arbitrarily be taken off the airwaves simply because he doesn't like what they say. Who is he to tell ME what I can and cannot listen to? I listen to Howard every day, and it costs me $12.95 a month to do it, which I pay out my own volition.
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I find it hard to believe that CBS fired Imus after their meeting with Sharpton and Jackson. As much of a pompous ass that Imus is he has raised millions and millions of dollars for multiple children's charities. I'd like to see how much the Reverend's Al and Jesse have given to children's charities over the same period.
This is just another poltically correct sissification of America. While these two clown's are busy basking in the spotlight of this media circus I haven't seen either one congratulate the new prosecutor in the Duke rape case for dropping the false rape charges against the three lacrosse players.

I'm betting with-in three months Imus and his crew are back on the radio, either Sirius or XM.

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I got your nappy headed ho right here.....and shes got a nappy dugout too....I can say that cause I'm black

Old Moparz

Aside from whether Imus, Sharpton, Stern, Jackson, the Rutgers team, sponsors who left, ho's, the station who aired the show, or anyone else who had their feelings hurt is right or wrong, there is a bigger issue that's overlooked. There is money being made by someone right now on all this BS. In the media, which is part of our wonderful entertainment industry, if someone has no talent or any original ideas to generate, the next best thing to do is to stir up something to gain attention.

Say something shocking, shave your head & tattoo yourself, point your finger at a "racist" or whatever else it takes to have people look your way is how to do it. The fact that people pay so much attention to all this so called "entertainment" amazes me. How many of you remember being told to ignore someone who was saying or doing something to you that annoyed you in order for it to stop? The same goes for BS entertainment. Ignore it, like a bad TV show with no ratings, & it goes away.

Is it true that front page stories of Anna Nichole, white house interns giving head to presidents, Imus (who was never funny that I can recall) saying dumbass crap, are all that important? What happened to actual problems in society that need attention? Politicians, the media, big business, etc., are more interested in keeping society entertained & lost in BS so they can keep going to the bank while nobody sees it. If everyone is more interested in what they are force fed as a problem, then the real issues are forgotten.

There's not enough money to be made, for waaaaay too much effort, to come up with a solution to something important. Like something that might actually help someone.   ::)
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nh_mopar_fan

There was no talk of firing Imus, just the 2 week suspension.

He was fired when the sponsors started pulling their advertising dollars.

That's why he was fired. It was business. Nothing less. Otherwise, you're going to have a hard time explaining why they first suspended him (while leaving him on the air) and then later fired him.

hemihead

I get tired of all the whiners and everyone having to be PC all the time.That Imus guy has been doing this stuff on his shows for what? , 15 years and suddenly everyone is gasping at one comment? Everyone should just get over it already.Remember " Sticks and stones..." ? It is just words.
If you don't like what this guy says, use the tuner knob and change the station.It's that simple.I don't like it when the word ' Cracker' is used but seems nobody makes a big stink about that, do they?
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QuoteAside from whether Imus, Sharpton, Stern, Jackson, the Rutgers team, sponsors who left, ho's, the station who aired the show, or anyone else who had their feelings hurt is right or wrong, there is a bigger issue that's overlooked. There is money being made by someone right now on all this BS. In the media, which is part of our wonderful entertainment industry, if someone has no talent or any original ideas to generate, the next best thing to do is to stir up something to gain attention.

Say something shocking, shave your head & tattoo yourself, point your finger at a "racist" or whatever else it takes to have people look your way is how to do it. The fact that people pay so much attention to all this so called "entertainment" amazes me. How many of you remember being told to ignore someone who was saying or doing something to you that annoyed you in order for it to stop? The same goes for BS entertainment. Ignore it, like a bad TV show with no ratings, & it goes away.

Is it true that front page stories of Anna Nichole, white house interns giving head to presidents, Imus (who was never funny that I can recall) saying dumbass crap, are all that important? What happened to actual problems in society that need attention? Politicians, the media, big business, etc., are more interested in keeping society entertained & lost in BS so they can keep going to the bank while nobody sees it. If everyone is more interested in what they are force fed as a problem, then the real issues are forgotten.

There's not enough money to be made, for waaaaay too much effort, to come up with a solution to something important. Like something that might actually help someone.   

Very well put Old guy. The frenzy is driven by money and egos. The most disturbing thing is that so many people in America actually pay any attention to these grandstanding idiots and the media darlings while they bat this about  :rotz:

 
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Personally, before two days ago, I had never even heard of Imus. It took me a whole day to filter through all the babble to even find out WHO he was/is & what he did...and as customary, this whole thing is completely blown beyond any normal rationale.
My deduction on the whole matter??






Yep, massive train wreck... :rotz:




 

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Quote from: Ponch ® on April 12, 2007, 10:56:48 AM
Quote from: Orange_Crush on April 12, 2007, 09:21:41 AM
If I didn't have enough reasons to hate Don Imus...now I hate him for making me agree with Al Sharpton.

I dont know why of all people he went to "apologize" to that racist, anti-semite Al Sharpton.


  Ya, anyone remember Spike Lee saying..."someone should shoot Charleton Heston in the face with a 44" ??? He said it was just a joke, no big deal...Now does anyone remember Al Sharpton calling for Spikes resignation from whomever funds his crappy movies? No, neither do I.

   I think I'll go watch Blazing Saddles now..."What did he say?...He said the Sheriff is near...Oh" :D
"Let me explain something to you, um i am not Mr. Lebowski, you're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the dude, so that's what you call me. That or his dudeness, or duder, or you know, el duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

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Quote from: NHCharger on April 12, 2007, 07:43:01 PM
I find it hard to believe that CBS fired Imus after their meeting with Sharpton and Jackson. As much of a pompous ass that Imus is he has raised millions and millions of dollars for multiple children's charities. I'd like to see how much the Reverend's Al and Jesse have given to children's charities over the same period.
This is just another poltically correct sissification of America. While these two clown's are busy basking in the spotlight of this media circus I haven't seen either one congratulate the new prosecutor in the Duke rape case for dropping the false rape charges against the three lacrosse players.

I'm betting with-in three months Imus and his crew are back on the radio, either Sirius or XM.



Sharpton and Jackson are opportunists who always get involved where there is some opportunity for grandstanding, and if possible, for them to make a buck by "persuading" corporations to donate to their "charities" or hook them and their familes with good jobs or bussiness deals.

If what a senile cokehead radio host says is the biggest thing they have to worry about, then race relations in America are in a LOT better shape than we all thought.
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Quote from: Ponch ® on April 12, 2007, 06:21:39 PM
Quote from: GTX on April 12, 2007, 06:14:39 PM
I agree......to a point. There is a bit of a difference between saying something one on one and announcing it on the air (the FCC has rules about that stuff) or in print  but I see the point. I can walk up to anyone and cuss him out using all sorts of foul words but according to the FCC I can't do it on the air, there are different rules and responsiblitites and that's partly my point.  I just think that we as a people need to tone down the crudity and crass behavior. How many kids walk around calling girls ho's and bitches because they hear it and think it's cool and acceptable?  The bar needs to be raised, not lowered.

With that I'm going to back out of this since it's really a no win situation. I don't care to force my views on others and I'm not going to accept that Imus was right or that we should tolerate people like him or Howard Stern.
I spoke my views, some agree and some don't which is fine, I'll wager that the majority do agree but it doesn't really matter since I'm not a decision maker nor care to be one.

I can certainly respect your opinion - even if you think Howard is intolerable.  What I don't get is sanctimonious characters like this Spike fella, who insists that people should arbitrarily be taken off the airwaves simply because he doesn't like what they say. Who is he to tell ME what I can and cannot listen to? I listen to Howard every day, and it costs me $12.95 a month to do it, which I pay out my own volition.

I am not telling anyone who to listen too, I was voicing MY opinion on the garbage on the airwaves. How come Stern fans get so bent out of shape when you knock this guy? As for paying to listen to Stern, waste of good money IMO.

73dodge

If Imus was a black rapper with his hair tied up coolio style and said what he said in a song he would still be on the air and no one would care not Sharpton not Jackson no one would give a crap.

Because that kind of cRAP gets played on thousands of radio stations across this country every day with lyrics worse than what Imus said. I think snoop dogg said it if the words came from a rapper instead of a 60 year old creepy white guy no one would care.

Imus was sacrificed on the alter of political correctness. 

I have a personal story about Al Sharptounge, about 10 years ago the local high school had a major scandal take place, it seems a 16 year old girl was found "servicing" about 9 boys during school in a stairwell where the cameras could not see. The boys were lined up and waiting their turn. Well the school caught wind and found out and expelled all of them. Girls and boys. Well as you can guess the girl was white and the boys black about a week after they got tossed who shows up at and holds a press conference in front of the high school? Good ole Al I remember his comment about this. The school was racists because all the boys who partook were black, he said surely there was at least one WHITE BOY who was involved and why they did not expel him? Well after a little investigation it turns out yep all the boys were black and the girl was white. Reverend AL skulked away without another word and crawled back under whatever rock he came from in Harlem. 
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