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Towing a Charger - Anyone have a cool trailer setup for towing their ride?

Started by hookem78613, January 26, 2007, 06:28:27 PM

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hookem78613

Need to get a larger trailer and thought someone may have a few tips.  The Charger is much bigger than my Cuda!  Anyone have a trailer or enclosed trailer they use for towing their Charger?  Tell me the specs of your trailer and rig.

Bryan
68 Charger R/T - 440 Stoker /727<br
72 Barracuda - 440 / 727
71 Nova

Chargen69


firefighter3931

I purchased a 2005 dually this past september specificly for towing duty. The truck is awesome....killer torque and gas milage (22 mpg @ 70mph) empty on the way home from Fla.  ;D

Over the christmas break i made a deal on an enclosed trailer ; Vintage Outlaw, 26ft, awning, aluminum wheels, 5200lb axles, aluminum cabinets, wired for 120v, power inverter, 5000lb winch, finished walls/ceiling, lights installed,carpet and checkplate floor runners.


Here are some pics ;
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

hookem78613

How does your Charger fit in there?? Plenty of room?  There is a local dealer around town that has a new 24ft with the same specs...no cabinets or anything though.  They want 8200.00 for it?  How does that stack up?
68 Charger R/T - 440 Stoker /727<br
72 Barracuda - 440 / 727
71 Nova

mikepmcs


here's a picture of my 25 footer

v/r
Mike
Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

firefighter3931

Quote from: hookem78613 on January 26, 2007, 07:39:18 PM
How does your Charger fit in there?? Plenty of room?  There is a local dealer around town that has a new 24ft with the same specs...no cabinets or anything though.  They want 8200.00 for it?  How does that stack up?


Hookem, i still don't have the trailer home so i can't comment on the fit....but i don't anticipate any problems. A 24ft will also work fine for a Charger so don't sweat it. Make sure anything you look at has 5200lb axles or it will be useless to you. That price seems in the ball park. I paid more than that for mine and it is used. A new "Outlaw" similarly equipped would be 13K + tax so i'm happy with the deal i got. I'll be heading to Indiana this spring to pick it up.


Mike, nice trailer (and neice)  :devil:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

Troy

Mine looks like this:





It's a 18' H&H open pit trailer. It's all steel and only weighs 1550 pounds. I had plans for a 26' enclosed like Ron's but after towing my 22' trailer (with the aerodynamics of a barn) around I suddenly liked the idea of an open trailer. It fits perfectly behind the Ram and barely effects gas mileage (I lose 1 mpg at 80-85 mph with a car on it).

Almost forgot to mention... that's a 5' dovetail with 5' ramps. I can almost push the cars on there and I never have a problem with hanging up the frame rails like I had on previous trailers.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

xs29j8Bullitt

My latest open trailer is a 20 ft Iron Works Challenger trailer with a 4 ft dovetail & captive long loading ramps.  I really like the long dovetail and long ramps, makes loading clearance problems a thing of the past!

Here are a few pictures...

XS
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

Paul G

I use an 18' (16' deck with 2' dovetail) open. It is easier to store and lighter to pull. Only weighs around 1500 pounds and can be used for other types of uses with the flat deck. I actually keep one of the cars on it in the garage for the winter. I would like to have an enclosed but it was just too difficult to find a place to keep it.
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

http://www.moparsaz.com/#

daytonalo

WHAT DID THAT 20 FT CHALLENGER TRAILER COST , THAT IS THE SWEETEST OPEN TRAILER I HAVE EVER SEEN . LOVE THE ROCK DEFLECTOR , ALL THE OTHERS SANDBLAST YOUR CAR , NOBODY REALIZES THAT !

resq302

My dad and I started out with a 18' open car trailer and after his el camino got soaked coming home and during a show in Hershey we decided to get an enclosed.  (we found out the hard way that his el camino had a water leak).  Since then we got a used 24' enclosed Pace American trailer with the torsional suspension axles that are 5200 lbs each.  Plenty of space inside but we do not have any cabinets or anything like that up front, just a spare tire and a tool box.  We have also added some other items such as a paper towel holder and tie down strap holder for when the tie downs are not in use.  One thing we would do differently if we bought a new one, would be to go for the option side escape hatch as with the el camino having the upper door frame, it is quite a contorsionist act getting out of the vehicle.

Brian
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

Troy

I suppose that I should mention that I've only trailered a running car three times. :D

That's why I'm so excited about the 10' of ramp - because I also don't own a powered winch! I put 10,000 miles on the Barracuda last summer and I plan on at least that much this coming year. That's why I ditched the enclosed trailer - I plan on driving all of my cars at every opportunity (yes, even in the rain). That's always been my goal but I found myself straying towards a pristine show car and had to re-evaluate things. I got into this hobby specifically because I was tired of all the cool cars being hidden away in climate controlled warehouses never to be seen by us "regular" guys.

So Larry, if I sandblast a car on my trailer it's a good thing because two of them will be on their way to the media blasters the next time they move. :P

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

hookem78613

how about space between the fenders?  What is the narrowest that you should go?  I think the widest I have seen is 83".

thanks for the nice response!
68 Charger R/T - 440 Stoker /727&lt;br
72 Barracuda - 440 / 727
71 Nova

resq302

I would go at least the amount of your car is wide and then some for safe meaure.  Also, one thing to make sure you check is the height of the top of the fender.  You dont want to open the door into the fender and chip the paint like my friend did with his concours restored Mustang Convert.  Best thing to do is to have someone sit inside the car and then take a measurement to the height of the bottom edge of the door.  This will allow you clearance when you are inside the car and open up the door.  Just little things like that only take once and then you know for the next time.

Brian
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: daytonalo on January 27, 2007, 01:43:01 AM
WHAT DID THAT 20 FT CHALLENGER TRAILER COST , THAT IS THE SWEETEST OPEN TRAILER I HAVE EVER SEEN . LOVE THE ROCK DEFLECTOR , ALL THE OTHERS SANDBLAST YOUR CAR , NOBODY REALIZES THAT !

Thanks, I selected the IW Challenger trailer after a lot of research, and looking at about a dozen different manufacturers.  Some folks thought I selected it because of the name, but that had nothing to do with the selection.  I liked most of the design features, and it is close to how I would design a trailer myself.

I bought the trailer from the "Texas Trailer Man" dealership in Haltom City, Texas... here is their website:  http://www.texastrailerman.com/

The Challenger trailer specifications and options pricing is here:  http://www.texastrailerman.com/new27.htm

The trailer cost was about $4400, which included the options that I selected & sales tax...  the base price for the trailer was $2750.  The SuperWinch S5000 electric winch was purchased seperately from Summit, but installed by the dealer... turns out they sell those winchs also at about the same price.  The $2750 base price includes some features normally options, see the spec page for details.

Some of the options I selected were:

Air Dam / Rock Shield
Electric Brakes on 2nd Axle (1st Axle included in base)
Heavy Duty Drop Leg Jack (probably should have gone with an electric jack)
Tire Up-Grade to ST225/75R15 (from 205s)
Spare Tire
Spare Tire Mount
Winch Mount (floor mount with doubler plates, done by dealer)
Battery Mount (custom built)
10 Heavy Duty D-Rings (4 included in base)
Dual Loading Lights in Bed of trailer
Utility Tray in trailer tongue (custom built)

Here are some more pics...

XS
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

Alain426

for sure its not the coolest way to tow a car, but certainly the cheaper

:)






72chargerSE

[It's a 18' H&H open pit trailer. It's all steel and only weighs 1550 pounds. I had plans for a 26' enclosed like Ron's but after towing my 22' trailer (with the aerodynamics of a barn) around I suddenly liked the idea of an open trailer. It fits perfectly behind the Ram and barely effects gas mileage (I lose 1 mpg at 80-85 mph with a car on it).

Almost forgot to mention... that's a 5' dovetail with 5' ramps. I can almost push the cars on there and I never have a problem with hanging up the frame rails like I had on previous trailers.

Troy

Quote

Troy!

Man, please be careful, that IMHO is WAY to fast!

I'd hate to see you lose your car, or worse...lose you!

Mike

Charger_Fan

Well, whatever you do, don't buy one like mine. :-\



I didn't spend a 10th enough time researching what I needed. At the time, I just needed something to drag home dead trucks that I would fix up & sell. The trailer's great for trucks, because they are tall enough to make most clearance issues a non-issue.
Everything was fine, until I went to load my Charger on there. I ended up ripping off half my exhaust (rusty anyway), when a muffler got snagged on the end...I didn't have the nose of the trailer up high enough. :'(
The I had to crawl through the windo to get out. Yeesh.

At least it was only $1,600 at the time.

The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

Troy

Quote from: 72chargerSE on January 27, 2007, 11:29:20 AM
[It's a 18' H&H open pit trailer. It's all steel and only weighs 1550 pounds. I had plans for a 26' enclosed like Ron's but after towing my 22' trailer (with the aerodynamics of a barn) around I suddenly liked the idea of an open trailer. It fits perfectly behind the Ram and barely effects gas mileage (I lose 1 mpg at 80-85 mph with a car on it).

Almost forgot to mention... that's a 5' dovetail with 5' ramps. I can almost push the cars on there and I never have a problem with hanging up the frame rails like I had on previous trailers.

Troy

Quote

Troy!

Man, please be careful, that IMHO is WAY to fast!

I'd hate to see you lose your car, or worse...lose you!

Mike
Yep, I know. The only times I've had it at those speeds were on the way back from Minnesota coming through the flat, open highways of Illinois and Indiana. I really do drive slow compared to some of the guys I know...  :-\

Did you see the truck? Let's see... 1 ton dually with 5200 pounds behind it. Overkill? It never wobbles or bounces and most of the time it's hard to tell there's even a trailer back there (I can only see the top 10" of the car in the rear view mirror and the fender flares block the trailer itself from the side mirrors). I asked about getting stabilizer bars and you'd have thought I had a horn growing out of the side of my head from the look I got. When I bought the 22' enclosed it weighed 4400 pounds empty. It was designed for a sprint car with 8' ceilings and a 4'x8' "concessionary door" which required a lot of extra steel for the beams. The hitch was a bit high but the guy said it would squat down some with the full trailer weight. The look on his face when the jack was 6" off the ground and the truck never moved was pretty funny.

I have towed Chargers with my Suburban using a different trailer and almost always had problems with them wobbling. A lot of that was tongue weight with a short trailer - I couldn't shift the weight because the cars only fit in one spot. I am usually very cautious but it's easy to get comfortable with this setup. Maybe too easy! Most of the time when I'm pulling cars they are shells or at least missing engines and transmissions. If I were pulling with my little truck I'd worry a lot more. Once the cars are drivable I shouldn't be using the trailer much at all.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

BlueSS454

I have a 26' enclosed Pace American trailer that I haul my 70 SS Chevelle around in.  It will pull double duty hauling the Charger around should I ever decide to take it far away (more than 2 hours).  I use a 2004 Silverado 2500HD diesel to pull it with.  It's made 5 trips to Tennessee, 4 trips up to Niagara Falls, a trip out to Michigan, and a bunch of other places.
Tom Rightler

Charger1973

Saw a pretty cool feature on a U-haul trailer today.  The fenders had spring loaded pins that you could pull, and then they fold down to allow you to open the door and get out of the car. 

my69

Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on January 26, 2007, 11:52:16 PM
My latest open trailer is a 20 ft Iron Works Challenger trailer with a 4 ft dovetail & captive long loading ramps.  I really like the long dovetail and long ramps, makes loading clearance problems a thing of the past!

Here are a few pictures...

XS

XS, May I ask (and others)  How OR what is the best way holding your ride?
I couldn't see your pic on the rear of the cuda of where you fastened it!

So I can be prepared to tow the charger in town this coming spring!


xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: my69 on January 27, 2007, 07:59:33 PM
XS, May I ask (and others)  How OR what is the best way holding your ride?
I couldn't see your pic on the rear of the cuda of where you fastened it!

So I can be prepared to tow the charger in town this coming spring!

At the back end I use two sets of rachetting tie down straps and axle straps.  The axle straps have to be placed carefully to avoid damaging a brake line or chafing the straps on various brackets, bolts, or other sharp edges.  The use of redundant tie downs reduces the chances that damage to one strap will become a serious problem...  Dual tie downs also distributes the loading better, and for long trips an added safety chain might be a good idea.  Some people cross the tie down straps, believing this increases the stability of the tie down... but I don't agree with that approach.

At the front end I use a heavy duty chain looped through the center of the K-Member.  Then I attach the looped chain to the D-Rings with two separate chains, using heavy duty chain couplers at all connections to take the load.  I leave a little extra length of chain loose to be able to attach across the couplers with a padlock as a theft deterrent.  I definitely would use a closed loop tie down arrangement in the front in case the back tie down straps come loose... and check the tie downs often!

Below are a few pictures of the tie downs...

XS
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

my69

Thanks XS for answering my question completely :2thumbs:

The items that you showed on the bottom of the pic is exactly what I need to know! Thanks for sharing
(I don't know about you but I'm getting anxious for spring to make it's return.) ::)


mikepmcs

Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?