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Holy Grail?

Started by kevink, July 22, 2021, 09:12:43 AM

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kevink

I am about 45 minutes out from looking at a Factory Triple Black 1969 R/T SE 4 speed trac pack car that has been locked in this garage since 1982. I am gonna have to make an offer and really do not have a starting point. I can verify everything and condition but don't know where to begin on offer of one like this. Any thoughts?

moparstuart

rust is the big factor   ?   maybe start at 50 and go up from there  .  What is the owner thinking     :scratchchin:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

tan top




:o wow ! R/T SE  :coolgleamA:   

Quote from: moparstuart on July 22, 2021, 09:23:55 AM
rust is the big factor   ?   maybe start at 50 and go up from there  .  What is the owner thinking     :scratchchin:

:iagree: what Stuart Said ! need to have a good look over it ....

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Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: moparstuart on July 22, 2021, 09:23:55 AM
   maybe start at 50 and go up from there 


Deduct 10 grand because it's not a '68.

Challenger340

I saw that R/T SE on fb.... looks to be the real deal and highly collectable  :2thumbs:

Condition.... condition.... condition....

IMO though....
an easy $50K and quickly headed up from there depending on Numbers Matching/B-Sheet... rust/prior bodywork.... LOTSA factors
Only wimps wear Bowties !

Challenger340

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on July 22, 2021, 10:35:14 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on July 22, 2021, 09:23:55 AM
   maybe start at 50 and go up from there 


Deduct 10 grand because it's not a '68.

You mean ADD $10 K as they never had an R/T SE Pkg in '68 ?
Only wimps wear Bowties !

Challenger340

You would think the Seller would at least remove all the garbage off the Car and clean it up a bit ?

Like WTF ?

or am I missing something here in the 'discovery' or 'garage find' genre of marketing these old Cars ?
Only wimps wear Bowties !

66FBCharger

'69 Charger R/T 440 4 speed T5, '70 Road Runner 440+6 4 speed, '73 'Cuda 340 4 speed, '66 Charger 383 Auto
SOLD!:'69 Charger R/T S.E. 440 4 speed 3.54 Dana rolling body

69 OUR/TEA

These are rare ? There's 2 right in my town !!! LOL  Nice find , good luck !!!! I spy rocker moldings !!!!

hemi-hampton

I wonder if original paint & how many miles on it & did it run when parked? is trunk or underneath rusty? LEON.

INTMD8

Sounds and looks promising! 

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Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on July 22, 2021, 02:26:26 PM
These are rare ? There's 2 right in my town !!! LOL  Nice find , good luck !!!! I spy rocker moldings !!!!

You sure do!

Chris' '69 Charger R/T


AKcharger

And the result was.....

69 OUR/TEA

Quote from: AKcharger on July 23, 2021, 08:02:21 AM
And the result was.....

When all is quiet after a post like this , one can assume dealings are happening and the buyer doesn't want to jinx it before he pulls it home !!! So I hope all works out for him and he gets it !!!!

70 sublime

If the car has been stored away that long odds are good the owner or seller know what they have and it will not be cheap
As in you have to offer more than any one else ever has  :brickwall:
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

kevink

The owner and I could not come to an agreement on price. We were $10,000 apart. When you take the emotions out of it I could not make buying it make sense. Wished him the best of luck on selling. Car needed a lot of work. A complete restoration really.

hemi-hampton

How much did he want??????? :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :shruggy: :shruggy:

AKcharger

Quote from: kevink on July 24, 2021, 05:44:34 PM
The owner and I could not come to an agreement on price. We were $10,000 apart. When you take the emotions out of it I could not make buying it make sense. Wished him the best of luck on selling. Car needed a lot of work. A complete restoration really.

The 3 pictures look like a good starting point but I'm sure theres a very good reason why it hasn't turned a wheel in 30 years. don't feel bad, what ever you think it would cost to restore it DOUBLE it!

Mopar Nut

Here's one for only $95,000.
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

70 sublime

Quote from: kevink on July 24, 2021, 05:44:34 PM
The owner and I could not come to an agreement on price. We were $10,000 apart. When you take the emotions out of it I could not make buying it make sense. Wished him the best of luck on selling. Car needed a lot of work. A complete restoration really.

Yes it would be interesting to know what the asking price was on something like that

I will guess they wanted $70 K for it
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

Challenger340

It would be nice to know the presenting condition of the Car itself as it currently sits ?    whatever history/provenance, numbers, etc., etc.
just my opinion...
but I don't believe the monetary details are anyone else's business beyond the negotiation was 'unsuccessful' ?
Only wimps wear Bowties !

AKcharger

Quote from: Challenger340 on July 25, 2021, 09:28:16 AM
...
but I don't believe the monetary details are anyone else's business beyond the negotiation was 'unsuccessful' ?

oh common, you're not courious?

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Challenger340

Quote from: AKcharger on July 25, 2021, 09:39:30 AM
Quote from: Challenger340 on July 25, 2021, 09:28:16 AM
...
but I don't believe the monetary details are anyone else's business beyond the negotiation was 'unsuccessful' ?

oh common, you're not courious?


Oh for sure I'm "curious" same as anyone else what the asking price is/was ?

But that said....
given the nature of what it is ? and the obviously somewhat emotional nature of pursuing as we have labelled it here a "Holy Grail".... I just don't believe that myself ?.... you ?.... or anyone else's opinion matters as to "what" the Car may be worth to anyone else at this juncture without far more information so I'm not going to ask nor expect any monetary details ?

Bottom line...
I just think any PRICE guesses as to what's reasonable or fair are counter productive without far more information.... and "condition" of the car for continuity ? anyways.... so why bother ?

Only wimps wear Bowties !

hemi-hampton

Quote from: Challenger340 on July 25, 2021, 10:53:44 AM
Quote from: AKcharger on July 25, 2021, 09:39:30 AM
Quote from: Challenger340 on July 25, 2021, 09:28:16 AM
...
but I don't believe the monetary details are anyone else's business beyond the negotiation was 'unsuccessful' ?

oh common, you're not courious?


Oh for sure I'm "curious" same as anyone else what the asking price is/was ?

But that said....
given the nature of what it is ? and the obviously somewhat emotional nature of pursuing as we have labelled it here a "Holy Grail".... I just don't believe that myself ?.... you ?.... or anyone else's opinion matters as to "what" the Car may be worth to anyone else at this juncture without far more information so I'm not going to ask nor expect any monetary details ?

Bottom line...
I just think any PRICE guesses as to what's reasonable or fair are counter productive without far more information.... and "condition" of the car for continuity ? anyways.... so why bother ?



Since potential Buyer looked this car over extremely well, every fine detail for condition & for flaws that need major repair, He could provide us all with this highly coveted valuable important information you/we seek to determine our own value. Plus if he don't want to offer $10k more maybe somebody else in here does?  :shruggy: :Twocents: :scratchchin: