The next time I find a person from Europe here in the the USA

[ACUDANUT]

I WILL CHARGE THEM....To piss and shit 10 times more in our country.  I just returned from Europe.  Not happy a happy camper. They make more money on Human waste than selling their worthless merchandise, food and booze.  I will also charge them for the toxic fumes from their arse too.

[XH29N0G]

These are free,  A little tricky for #2, but possible....

[alfaitalia]

I WILL CHARGE THEM....To piss and shit 10 times more in our country.  I just returned from Europe.  Not happy a happy camper. They make more money on Human waste than selling their worthless merchandise, food and booze.  I will also charge them for the toxic fumes from their arse too.

Just to be clear which country and what where you charged for?

[Mike DC]

  
On the other hand . . .  


My friend's GF broke her ankle during a trip to Denmark last year.  It was a pretty bad break and required surgery to set the bones with pins and stuff.  She spent several days in the hospital.

They fixed it for free.  The hospital didn't even have a billing department.  The quality of care was on par with the States.

[alfaitalia]

Would be the same here in the U.K....the NHS (National Health Service) don't charge for emergency medical care no matter where you come from. Just common sense and good manners as far as we are concerned. Something most Brits are very proud of...even if it's more than a bit underfunded at the moment...as always!

[Kern Dog]

I think that if we Americans started off with Socialized/Government funded medical care, we may have little to no problem with it today. It is the period of transition that we would have to go through that makes it so hard to accept. There absolutely HAS to be a higher tax burden to cover it, taxes imposed on the people that work and produce. With so many losers here getting FREE money for doing nothing, it pisses the working people off to think that even MORE of their money will be stolen and skimmed from their checks when they already have health care coverage through their employers.

[XH29N0G]

In spite of my flip #2 comment on the free public pisser above,  I also hate the pay as you go system!  BUT it has gotten better, and  I never can tell whether pay toilets are socialist or capitalist.

My experience has also been similar to what MikeDC described based on several long duration stays I have had with my family. Further, looking at the math for most of us. Counting kids schooling/college, my health care, and retirement savings as part of taxes gives me a full 'tax rate' that is easily comparable to that in Europe. And those 'other taxes' don't scale with income so making more money means a lower rate.  

I'll look for some more toilet pictures for my next post.

[XH29N0G]

As promised. I usually take pictures of cars, but I found this one amusing and never dreamed it would be put to good use.

[alfaitalia]

We do have pay toilets in the UK....but not many are publicly owned...so the company that owns them are either in it for a profit or just want to cover maintenance/running costs. Unless you really have to go RIGHT NOW you would be stupid (or don't care about paying) to use one when there are so many free public toilets about and if you cant find one just walk into any pub or fast food joint. If its busy they will not notice ....if its nearly empty I just ask nicely....never been told "no!" yet. And if you are a accented tourist they certainly wont say no....we like tourists in the UK!!

[birdsandbees]

Never paid once in Wales and England... of course our longest walk was from one pub to the next so I could hold it that long! 

[ACUDANUT]

I WILL CHARGE THEM....To piss and shit 10 times more in our country.  I just returned from Europe.  Not happy a happy camper. They make more money on Human waste than selling their worthless merchandise, food and booze.  I will also charge them for the toxic fumes from their arse too.

Just to be clear which country and what where you charged for?

London and Italy.   About 3 American dollars to use one in Venice.  I won't get into Politics, but London reminded me Iraq (people that is).

[XH29N0G]

$3 sounds steep to me.  I would be frustrated too.

[seaweed]

Sweden here. we use to be nr 1 in every position, Medical no matter what i only pay about 15 dollar for what ever specialist i need ( for my Children its free, including medicin.).
My charger is tax free ( cars over 30 year) and a very cheap Insurance.
as a father i can stay home whith my Children  for about 90 Days and recive 80% off my pay.
i have 5 weeks payed vacation each year.
But 2015 we tok in about 150 000 Syrian and afganistan men (almost no women or Children) and they can live here whith no jobs.
they get free dental and our goverment give dem appartment and Money to go. and all swedes who have worked and payed taxes are paying for them.
now we pay about 1,5 dollar for a liter of gas, 100 dollar/ month for Electric subscription and 0,1 dollar/KWH of Electric.
The line for Health/dental care is never ending and our taxes has never been higher.
In Sweden, you can never work to be rich becourse our taxes is too high. thats what i like about USA, if you have an ide' you can work hard an get rich.

[Kern Dog]

Thanks for the honest response. Our terribly biased news media downplays stuff like that.

[John_Kunkel]

Around here just about every business has a sign in the window that reads "restroom for customers only". IOW, no free doo-doo or pee-pee, gotta pay.

[Lennard]

But 2015 we tok in about 150 000 Syrian and afganistan men (almost no women or Children) and they can live here whith no jobs.
they get free dental and our goverment give dem appartment and Money to go. and all swedes who have worked and payed taxes are paying for them.
now we pay about 1,5 dollar for a liter of gas, 100 dollar/ month for Electric subscription and 0,1 dollar/KWH of Electric.
The line for Health/dental care is never ending and our taxes has never been higher.
In Sweden, you can never work to be rich becourse our taxes is too high.

This is the same for Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, France... etc.

[alfaitalia]

I WILL CHARGE THEM....To piss and shit 10 times more in our country.  I just returned from Europe.  Not happy a happy camper. They make more money on Human waste than selling their worthless merchandise, food and booze.  I will also charge them for the toxic fumes from their arse too.

Just to be clear which country and what where you charged for?

London and Italy.   About 3 American dollars to use one in Venice.  I won't get into Politics, but London reminded me Iraq (people that is).

Bit harsh....but everyone entitled to their opinion I guess. You are never more than ten minutes walk from a free loo in London. I never pay on my visits to the big smoke. I do try to avoid going their too much though....no problems with London but Im a country boy and never been a fan of big cities!!

[alfaitalia]

Sweden here. we use to be nr 1 in every position, Medical no matter what i only pay about 15 dollar for what ever specialist i need ( for my Children its free, including medicin.).
My charger is tax free ( cars over 30 year) and a very cheap Insurance.
as a father i can stay home whith my Children  for about 90 Days and recive 80% off my pay.
i have 5 weeks payed vacation each year.
But 2015 we tok in about 150 000 Syrian and afganistan men (almost no women or Children) and they can live here whith no jobs.
they get free dental and our goverment give dem appartment and Money to go. and all swedes who have worked and payed taxes are paying for them.
now we pay about 1,5 dollar for a liter of gas, 100 dollar/ month for Electric subscription and 0,1 dollar/KWH of Electric.
The line for Health/dental care is never ending and our taxes has never been higher.
In Sweden, you can never work to be rich becourse our taxes is too high. thats what i like about USA, if you have an ide' you can work hard an get rich.

We have people with similar views in the UK...some people call them "racists"....not saying you are of course. But if your country was having the crap bombed out of it by a neighbour of even by there own leader or in the case of the Afghan men a war between taliban/ISIS and the USA that you can do nothing about then id like to hope that countries in a far safer place and with a much better economy might be able to afford to offer a helping hand. We do here and yes it costs us.... but we police it better...after you get here you get looked after for a while....but them you work...you dont live off the state. You do get "free" medical/dental....but so does everyone here. Things might change here (for the worse) soon if Boris gets into Number 10....then we might not be so welcoming...and will have an egomaniac, sexist racist, bigot in change...hope it does not happen. That said the USA went that way and strangely the majority seem to like him.....hmmm. We however did not give him the welcome he might have been expecting with the "special relationship" and all that so hopefully the public (well Party members at least...we have no say) will put in someone a little more moderate and not so far to the right in power....If not he will almost certainly be out at the first General Election....the British public wont put up with him for long. LOL.

[Kern Dog]

It is not racist to be pissed when your country gets overwhelmed with people from other countries.
Why do countries of primarily Caucasian people have to surrender our security and way of life to other races? This diversity shit is not about helping White people, it is always about helping brown people. Ever heard of Canadian refugees? French refugees? Yeah...me neither.
Why is it that the majority of poverty and suffering is in countries with brown or black people? Seriously, forget your left leaning views on politics, answer that question.
Why is it our job to cure these problems in these shithole countries? If anyone had any sense, they'd eliminate the ruthless regimes in these shithole countries and let these "refugees" stay in their home countries. That does NOT fit the globalist agenda though. Those at the helm want to pollute Caucasian countries with backwards fundamentalist lifestyles and poverty, this keeps the people down and dependent on the government.
Why do we have to lower our standard of living?  It is not racist to want to keep your culture the way that it is. It is not selfish to want to keep what is yours. It is not sexist to clearly identify the differences between the sexes. Too many idiots have surrendered their identities to globalist nonsense.

[XH29N0G]

The immigration debate has happened over and over again. Some of our ancestors were immigrants fleeing bad situations.  Some were vilified.  It was and remains vile and shameful.

[ACUDANUT]

It is not racist to be pissed when your country gets overwhelmed with people from other countries.
Why do countries of primarily Caucasian people have to surrender our security and way of life to other races? This diversity shit is not about helping White people, it is always about helping brown people. Ever heard of Canadian refugees? French refugees? Yeah...me neither.
Why is it that the majority of poverty and suffering is in countries with brown or black people? Seriously, forget your left leaning views on politics, answer that question.
Why is it our job to cure these problems in these shithole countries? If anyone had any sense, they'd eliminate the ruthless regimes in these shithole countries and let these "refugees" stay in their home countries. That does NOT fit the globalist agenda though. Those at the helm want to pollute Caucasian countries with backwards fundamentalist lifestyles and poverty, this keeps the people down and dependent on the government.
Why do we have to lower our standard of living?  It is not racist to want to keep your culture the way that it is. It is not selfish to want to keep what is yours. It is not sexist to clearly identify the differences between the sexes. Too many idiots have surrendered their identities to globalist nonsense.

Well said. I say, stay in your own Country and try to make it better. Don't come into another country and do nothing but demand your way to supersede ours. US/UK ect.

[alfaitalia]

It is not racist to be pissed when your country gets overwhelmed with people from other countries.
Why do countries of primarily Caucasian people have to surrender our security and way of life to other races? This diversity shit is not about helping White people, it is always about helping brown people. Ever heard of Canadian refugees? French refugees? Yeah...me neither.
Why is it that the majority of poverty and suffering is in countries with brown or black people? Seriously, forget your left leaning views on politics, answer that question.
Why is it our job to cure these problems in these shithole countries? If anyone had any sense, they'd eliminate the ruthless regimes in these shithole countries and let these "refugees" stay in their home countries. That does NOT fit the globalist agenda though. Those at the helm want to pollute Caucasian countries with backwards fundamentalist lifestyles and poverty, this keeps the people down and dependent on the government.
Why do we have to lower our standard of living?  It is not racist to want to keep your culture the way that it is. It is not selfish to want to keep what is yours. It is not sexist to clearly identify the differences between the sexes. Too many idiots have surrendered their identities to globalist nonsense.

Lol...in answer to your question....yes that is racist!...very racist in places..it's also very unChristian (if you believe all that old bollocks...but I know lots on here do) and it's also very uncaring for your fellow human being. And just for clarity I vote Conservative (mildly right wing) not Labour (very mildly left wing). Sure ....it's not your job to look after them but it is your responsibility as decent human being surely.  Lots are running from wars they can do nothing about and are just trying to save their families ...some of which we (the West) started and other which we (the West) fund and make fortunes from in arms sales. Acudanut.... We have many differing religious faiths here (UK)..as much as they want to preserve there beliefs and religious heritage I and  I bet most people in the UK have never had anyone trying to change my beliefs or "pollute" my lifestyle. By the way we had plenty of white (Caucasian) refugees in this part of the world. Did the wars in the former Czechoslovakia and many Eastern European countries in the 80s and 90s not make the news in the US?!

[Kern Dog]

Why is it that in MOST cases, the refugees from these shitty countries are ALL MEN ?? Mid 20s, able bodied (Likely former soldiers) and strong willed?
Nobody ever sends their hot, lonely women to another country. 
It isn't racist to want to protect yourself from others that want to change or pollute my way of life. I don't care if it is a group of polar bear colored Russians or eggplant colored pygmies. If you are escaping a shithole, leave the ways of that shithole behind you. Idiots do that here....Leave BLUE states that are overcrowded, overtaxed and fucked up and move to a RED state...THEN vote for the same bullshit they ran away from.
I don't need more poverty, more Muslim activity, more homeless scumbags begging and robbing to buy drugs or booze. We have that already, way too much of it.

[Mike DC]

Why is it that the majority of poverty and suffering is in countries with brown or black people? Seriously, forget your left leaning views on politics, answer that question.

I can think of some reasons just off the top of my head.  

Europe has a ton of coastline & rivers for the land area so it's conducive to building ships & traveling around.  They have just the right weather/temp range to promote tech development: cold enough to need more survival help in the winter, but warm & fertile enough in the summer to be able to work on those problems.  

Europe ended up with a population that had good/experienced ship fleets and motives to invent stuff.  When you invent stuff and travel a lot, you trade with others a lot.  When you do that, you get tempted to conquer others for their natural resources.  You want to keep your shipping lanes from being pirated.  Etc.  Pretty soon you want an empire to keep the money rolling in.  

The 1300's bubonic plague in Europe gave the survivors more disease resistance than anyone else.  Europeans didn't really conquer the Native Americans, so much as bring over some diseases that wiped out 90+ percent of the natives for them within a century.  Same happened in some of the other places the Europeans eventually went.  Today white people are still genetically more resistant to HIV thanks to after-effects of those old plagues.

When Europeans conquered Africa & the middle east in the 1800s-1900s they didn't just leave those regions as they were. They re-drew a lot of the border lines with no concern for where the existing cultures were, and that has caused serious division to this day.  Example: the different groups in Iraq don't get along today because 'Iraq' is a western creation from the early 1900s.  (Imagine combining several southwest US states with a chunk of Mexico, and calling it one country. "Ugh, why won't those people just grow up and get along?")

Why is it our job to cure these problems in these shithole countries? If anyone had any sense, they'd eliminate the ruthless regimes in these shithole countries and let these "refugees" stay in their home countries. That does NOT fit the globalist agenda though. Those at the helm want to pollute Caucasian countries with backwards fundamentalist lifestyles and poverty, this keeps the people down and dependent on the government.
Why do we have to lower our standard of living?  It is not racist to want to keep your culture the way that it is. It is not selfish to want to keep what is yours. It is not sexist to clearly identify the differences between the sexes. Too many idiots have surrendered their identities to globalist nonsense.

The USA doesn't have any room to talk about 'eliminating ruthless regimes.'  Look at our history with Iran going back to the 1950s.  Today they would have to be clinically insane to trust the USA in any way whatsoever.  That's just one example.  Panama 30 years ago is another one.  

And then there is Saudi Arabia.  We cannot pretend to be against ruthless regimes and supporting that ruling family.  Pick one or the other.  (The Saudis having the biggest oil pumping capacity in the world?  The Bush family having a long financial history with them?  I'm sure these are just coincidences.)

If we want to stop dealing with these messes then perhaps we shouldn't be worsening them.

[Kern Dog]

Holy shit. That made sense. I appreciate the viewpoint.