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Started by 69_Hemi_Charger, May 07, 2006, 11:54:35 PM

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69_Hemi_Charger

Apparently there are some girls from Austria that are promoting Racism through music. Hearing thier story of being brainwashed by their parents and listening to their music made me want to hang the parents by their entrails or something very similar. This really disgusted me, even though I know the racism is still out there. I will let u guys watch the vid and tell me your thoughts.... 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3cAjSx97j0&search=prussian%20blue
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Silver R/T

well its sad what world is coming to. But we have enough hate/racism/nationalism in USA so we should fix our own problems first.
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69_Hemi_Charger

Quote from: Silver R/T on May 07, 2006, 11:56:55 PM
well its sad what world is coming to. But we have enough hate/racism/nationalism in USA so we should fix our own problems first.

If you watch the video, the racists here in America are using the girls to get more publicity, so this is a problem of America. They have the right of free speech, but where does the line get drawn?
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Todd Wilson

Makes you want to go drive your General Lee with the rebel flag on top dont it!


Todd


Mefirst

Quote from: Todd Wilson on May 08, 2006, 12:04:06 AM
Makes you want to go drive your General Lee with the rebel flag on top dont it!

:haha:


TheGhost

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  Especially if they have access to the internet.

RD

Quote from: Todd Wilson on May 08, 2006, 12:04:06 AM
Makes you want to go drive your General Lee with the rebel flag on top dont it!


Todd



good show Todd

on a different note, by posting the link to the vid, you are inadvertently spreading their hate.. just an FYI
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69_Hemi_Charger

Quote from: RD on May 08, 2006, 12:59:02 AM
Quote from: Todd Wilson on May 08, 2006, 12:04:06 AM
Makes you want to go drive your General Lee with the rebel flag on top don't it!


Todd



good show Todd

on a different note, by posting the link to the vid, you are inadvertently spreading their hate.. just an FYI

Not really, its already easily accessible at YouTube.com or on Google. You can easily find it on the internet, but the fact that people endorse and produce such *hit is beyond me. I could have easily posted just a comment about the group, but I didn't know if other people would know what I was talking about. And furthermore, how is posting a reference to something I disagree with spreading their hate? If I made a reference to Hitler or Fascism and then refuted it, its not spreading the hate but rather the sentiment that hate is wrong. I completely disagree with racial supremacists and I made that abundantly clear in my original post, the link was just a reference to my statement.

Also if you actually watch the movie, it bears an anti-hate veiw contradictory to the kid's racist ones. This was made and aired by ABC.
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RD

dude, i know your stance on this, and in no way am I stating that you support such ignorance.  I just meant that for those that did not know about the link that you provided and support or have an inkling of agreement with such ignorance, now have the link at their disposal.  That is what I meant by inadvertently.  Whether or not, you did spread the ability for others to view the hate.  That is why in instances like these, I just choose to ignore the ignorance.  I do not want to be even mildly associated with the further distribution of such information.
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andy74

i pick who i like and dislike with out color bias,some people just suck-like those chicks

71440charger

well i think that those kids need a good ass whippen that is what i think and their mom and dad need the *hit beat out of them also but that is my 2cent
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Arthu®

 ::) it is just really sad that these people still excist. It really makes me feel depressed about the world we are living in. There are probably more of these kind of people than one might expect. I know overhere the group of right wing supporters is growing every day. It has everything to do with how everything is delt with by the government concerning immigrants and their childern (especially their children). Sadly but true I can see where it is coming from. No I do not believe I am better than the northern african's that I am refering too it is just that it is a fact that there is a large group of these people that ruin it for the rest. Not all of them can be bad, but with facts like these it is easy to raise hate against a race. I myself even have to admit to the fact that I catch myself thinking oh well you see it is those damn Morrocans again. I don't know how it is in the US, but here especially in the cities this group of people tend to be the source of 70% of all the crimes while they are a great minority opposed to the natives + other minorities.

I just mean to say that hate is easily raised especially with low educated, under payed people. I know there are a few wacko's that are actually highly educated and smart people that also believe in it, but overall they tend to be mentally ill, while the majority of these people are low educated and really too dumb to see that they are doing something wrong.

Here in the Netherlands we have a pretty large Hardcore scene, this is a group of people of which the majority are right wing nationalist supporters. I know not all of them are in it for that but a large percent of them tend to be nationalist and while I don't like the marrocans I think I even dislike them more. You know what the problem is, it is the extreme. Everything wether it is extremely religious, extremely left or right wing it is all bad. All it does is promote hate and discrimination against others who are not like them. One might not want to hear it but those extremely religious cults wether it is christian or muslim or whatever are equally dangerous. They all believe that those that do not meet their opinion and views are not as worthy as them.

Oh well I can rant about this for a long long time, but it really doesn't help anything. This is a problem that has no easy solution and I don't see it solved any time soon. As long as people can't respect each other for what they are than it is really hopeless. I hope to see it before I die but I don't think I will.

Arthur
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Todd Wilson

Quote from: 71440charger on May 08, 2006, 10:49:06 AM
well i think that those kids need a good ass whippen that is what i think and their mom and dad need the *hit beat out of them also but that is my 2cent



Now don't be hate'n!!   I hope you are a white dude or you are being racial!!!!!!


Todd


Todd Wilson

Quote from: 68-70 Charger on May 08, 2006, 11:20:14 AM
::) it is just really sad that these people still excist. It really makes me feel depressed about the world we are living in.



I agree!    We can drop you off in the bad part of a big city here and let you see the other side of racism!!!!!


Todd


71440charger

Quote from: Todd Wilson on May 08, 2006, 11:29:38 AM
Quote from: 71440charger on May 08, 2006, 10:49:06 AM
well i think that those kids need a good ass whippen that is what i think and their mom and dad need the *hit beat out of them also but that is my 2cent



Now don't be hate'n!! I hope you are a white dude or you are being racial!!!!!!


Todd



:haha: i am all types i think they call me a hynes 57 LOL
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Quote from: Todd Wilson on May 08, 2006, 11:31:19 AM
I agree!    We can drop you off in the bad part of a big city here and let you see the other side of racism!!!!!

Well if that's the deal than you would think that most of the discrimination comes from the people living in the big cities. Because they are the ones having problems with them. Yet it most of the time seems to be the small town hicks that are more afraid of anything that is different than really have a reason for it. I mean I bet those girls didn't grow up in an enviroment which even allowed them to experience it on their own. There is a good chance they were already hating the people before they even ever met one. No offence but with the inbred going on in small towns that doesn't really help the average IQ of the population.

Arthur
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71440charger

Quote from: 68-70 Charger on May 08, 2006, 11:45:01 AM
Quote from: Todd Wilson on May 08, 2006, 11:31:19 AM
I agree! We can drop you off in the bad part of a big city here and let you see the other side of racism!!!!!

Well if that's the deal than you would think that most of the discrimination comes from the people living in the big cities. Because they are the ones having problems with them. Yet it most of the time seems to be the small town hicks that are more afraid of anything that is different than really have a reason for it. I mean I bet those girls didn't grow up in an enviroment which even allowed them to experience it on their own. There is a good chance they were already hating the people before they even ever met one. No offence but with the inbred going on in small towns that doesn't really help the average IQ of the population.

Arthur

well it said they were home schooled and their mom said she was racist also
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Mefirst

Well its kinda programed into the human genes that you will not like everyone else...

Then again I don't like the extreme left or right or extreme religious types, but one thing is certain, if I ever were stranded on a desert island with one extreme left person, one extreme right person and one religious person.. I think Id sit and watch with the religious person when the lefty and righty beat the shit outta each other.. After they kill each other, Id ask the religious person to go out and practice walking on water so I could finaly have some peace and quiet...



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Quote from: 71440charger on May 08, 2006, 11:46:40 AM
well it said they were home schooled and their mom said she was racist also

I never really understood the home schooling system, we don't have it overhere. Do you do all the work including exams at home? How does it work do you have to go somewhere to do the tests or what? I always thought it was somewhat of a odd thing as I believe that grade school and high school are probably the most important stage of your life and how you are formed. This also means having friends at school and everything that has to do with social behaviour. But I can see why these people would want to home school their children.

Arthur
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71440charger

Quote from: 68-70 Charger on May 08, 2006, 12:14:10 PM
Quote from: 71440charger on May 08, 2006, 11:46:40 AM
well it said they were home schooled and their mom said she was racist also

I never really understood the home schooling system, we don't have it overhere. Do you do all the work including exams at home? How does it work do you have to go somewhere to do the tests or what? I always thought it was somewhat of a odd thing as I believe that grade school and high school are probably the most important stage of your life and how you are formed. This also means having friends at school and everything that has to do with social behaviour. But I can see why these people would want to home school their children.

Arthur

yea it is not good in my opinion unless it is done right i know some kids that are smart as hell that were home schooled but they have no people skills and then i have met some the other way around my wifes brother was home schooled beacuse he got beat up. i finally talked her mom and dad into letting him back into school system and he is doing fine now. but he was way behind for his age.
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Mike DC

 
It sounds funny to say this, but I really don't think the United States is such a racist place in the big scheme of things.  There are tons of countries/societies on earth that are much more hateful of outsiders or certain sub-groups than we are. 

We have MUCH more diversity than many countries (partly just because we're so geographically huge).  It's easy for some other places to seem less racist than America when it's a small country where virtually everyone comes from the exact same race & culture. 

And unlike many cultures/countries, we openly talk about the racism issues we have.  It's not all tucked away in the closet.

 

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69_Hemi_Charger

Quote from: RD on May 08, 2006, 08:47:04 AM
dude, i know your stance on this, and in no way am I stating that you support such ignorance.  I just meant that for those that did not know about the link that you provided and support or have an inkling of agreement with such ignorance, now have the link at their disposal.  That is what I meant by inadvertently.  Whether or not, you did spread the ability for others to view the hate.  That is why in instances like these, I just choose to ignore the ignorance.  I do not want to be even mildly associated with the further distribution of such information.

Yea I understand your point. Since it has already been aired by ABC and the fact that this is starting to get more and more publicity I thought I would just ask this groups opinion. I can see how it is distributing a link that could possibly be used as racist propaganda, but the video itself is more centrist and anti-hate and is analyzing the kids, not sympathizing.

The problem with kids and people like this is that they aren't exposed to other societies and cultures and instead of coming to understand them, they fear them, as if they are some kind of threat. I simply meant to use the vid as a reference, and it was simply a reminder that racism is still present in America, and is even more present in other countries. Its just a sad reminder that such blatant and blind hate still exists within societies that despise it.
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The problem we're having in the U.S. now is not so much that there are still racists, it's that we are becoming more separate from other subcultures.  It's no longer that the average American is afraid of other people, we're afraid of offending other people.  With the rising tension, I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing "misunderstanding crimes" replacing hate crimes.

Of course, blatant racists are fueling this kind of separation.  They perpetuate the notion that rural cultures = racist, white people = racist, blue collar workers = racist, and that the confederate flag = racist.  I find it hideously ironic, actually.  Kind of a second wave of hate crushing the dream of Martin Luther King.
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