Please decode my fender tag

[jefferson]

Please help decode my fender tag.

[jefferson]

https://imgur.com/a/lFhEuFo

[jefferson]

Appears to be upside down. Sorry about that. Just download save to pc and rotate. Much appreciated. Cheerd

[6bblgt]

a/6 = console
b/4 = bucket seats
h/7 = hood turn signals

T/7 = tachometer
Y/6 = vinyl top - BLACK

2/5 = drip trough mouldings
3/0 = belt mouldings
7/8 = wheel lip mouldings

AX/4 = 3.23:1 rear axle ratio (open)

C6B = Charger bucket seat interior - BLUE

QQ1 = "bright blue metallic" monotone paint

U/U = "light blue metallic" Upper Door Frame (UDF) paint
S/_ = "bumblebee" stripe - BLACK

XS29 = Charger R/T
83 = 440HP
5 = automatic transmission
44 = F70-14 "red streak" Goodyear SPEEDWAY
327 = Scheduled Production Date (SPD) - Wednesday 3/27/68
165713 = Shipping Order Number (S.O.#)

XS29L8B33xxxx

no radio 

[jefferson]

Thanks heap dude appreciate it heaps

Man no radio, i have an aftermarket one in the car, but did they really even come out with no radio? lol

The stripes on mine atm are white not black, and no longer has a vinyl roof, Still has all the rest of the things though.

So its fair to say, my charger is just a very base model RT charger lol the cheapest you could find nothing special about her?. Also has good ol drums brakes on her hahaha.

[jefferson]

One thing that confuses me though, is back in the day, people would pay extra for the RT package but would not get other options, disc brakes, cruise control, power windows etc. Or were some of these only avaliable in 69?

what options were avaliable as an add on to the charger RT 68.

i just find it strange how ive got the RT 68 charger with everything standard lol. Seems strange, you go all out to buy an expensive edition of a car but dont choose any features. ?

[BrianShaughnessy]

One thing that confuses me though, is back in the day, people would pay extra for the RT package but would not get other options, disc brakes, cruise control, power windows etc.

Also has good ol drums brakes on her hahaha.

Disk brakes were expensive to work on back in the day...   A lot of voo-doo people shied away from in spite of the benefits.   Same with a lot of extras people now consider almost standard equipment.   They really didn't catch on until GM started standardizing them early/mid 70s.   Some people still think they're great   
Nowadays kids can't figure out how to replace the rear drum brakes 

[jefferson]

Thanks man also another question. I havent.looked at any engine numbers. Stamps. Etc on my engine or whatnot. But how do u know if you engine is actually a 440 as opposed to a 383? How do u know if the seller isnt trying.to pass off a 383 engine as a 440?
Ive got a 440 in my rt. Painted turqoise. Its loud.and seems like it has grunt. All the papers. Vin. Fender match a 440 but how do i know its not a 383 or the 318 ?
Apparently engine colour varied quite a lot so isnt a good indication ive been told.

[jefferson]

https://imgur.com/a/qNbM7ZW

[6bblgt]

a 440 has a specific casting number on the side

there will also be info stamped on this "top pad"

[jefferson]

Thanks mate. I will check tomorrow.

So i guess from that photo u cant tell if its a 318 383 or.440?

[jefferson]

Does the turqouise blue colour of the engine mean anything? Im getting conflicting reports
seems a lot of pics of RT 68 chargers have the same colour engine as mine, but then i see some black, silver and lots of oranges so damn dif i know.
Looked up the official chrysler colour chart and they claim a 440 engine was turqouiose but then the 440 HP engine was orange? Not sure what the difference is between those two 440s lol.

[70 sublime]

383 and 440 have distributor at the front
318 is at the back by firewall

[jefferson]

383 and 440 have distributor at the front
318 is at the back by firewall

any idea what mine is lol?

440 or 383?

[jefferson]

ill check the numbers on the engine tomorrow

but damn id be angry if it was actually a 383 engine and been told a 440
Seeing as according to the dodge charts, both 383 and 440 engines were turquoise in color.

[70 sublime]

ill check the numbers on the engine tomorrow

but damn id be angry if it was actually a 383 engine and been told a 440
Seeing as according to the dodge charts, both 383 and 440 engines were turquoise in color.

Anybody can paint any motor any colour they want
Just because it is turquoise does not mean very much
Could even be a 400 motor

Do not always assume the worst but learn how to check to verify what is there

As for the R/T thing lots of guys back then just wanted to go fast and did not want to be weighted down with a lot of extra stuff could be why your car did not come with a radio

[jefferson]

Thanks once again sublime

I will run all the engine numbers tomorrow. Im quite positive its a 440, but as soon as my mate said how do you know its a 440 and not a smaller engine, i was shocked and said, wow, jees, i dont, hell if i know. COULD be any size.
not sure why he even mentioned that but good point none the less. The vin, the fender and all the documents i have on the car tell me its a 440 7.2l engine but as you said, doesnt stop the prior owner from putting in say a 383 painting it turquoise and trying to palm it off as a 440, because when you type in 68 charger 440 engine most of them come up the same colour as mine. So im at a loss.

[jefferson]

Thanks once again sublime

I will run all the engine numbers tomorrow. Im quite positive its a 440, but as soon as my mate said how do you know its a 440 and not a smaller engine if the seller could have saved a few k buy buying a smaller engine putting it in, painting it and palming it off as a 440 i was shocked and said, wow, jees, i dont, hell if i know. COULD be any size.
not sure why he even mentioned that but good point none the less. The vin, the fender and all the documents i have on the car tell me its a 440 7.2l engine but as you said, doesnt stop the prior owner from putting in say a 383 painting it turquoise and trying to palm it off as a 440, because when you type in 68 charger 440 engine most of them come up the same colour as mine. So im at a loss.

[Homerr]

jefferson, you may want to add your car to the 1968 Charger Registry linked below in my signature even though 6bblgt already decoded it.  It's set up to sort of be like ordering a car and generating the build sheet so it might give you some more insight.


Regarding low options, some owners ordered them to drag race them and power accessories frequently just add weight and/or suck power.

[70 sublime]

Have a look at this web page

http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/motor/36.html

There will be more than just the motor size stamped on the pad of the block

[BLK 68 R/T]

Easy to tell if its a 440 or a 383. The 383 will have the engine pad #s down below the distributor on a flat pad and the pad referenced in the picture above will not be present. This is the way most "B" vs "RB" engines are, 383/400 are "B" engines. 440/426 are "RB" engines. There was an early "RB" 383 but probably not relevant in this case as they are not very common.

[jefferson]

Thanks fellas. I looked and found a few numbers on my engine and block
First one Eng number PT361S 24292314
Block cast is 253643010

So the block cast is telling its a 440 . The engine no is sayong a 361 from the trenton plant.

No idea wtf is going on.

[jefferson]

Few photos i got
https://imgur.com/a/yxoJeyK

https://imgur.com/a/Fl3OaoE

https://imgur.com/a/UvGM11S

[BLK 68 R/T]

It's a 440 for sure. D on the pad = 1968

[jefferson]

thanks heaps man

what does all that other engine number BS mean?. All looks like crypted codes to my eyes lmao.