When is there going to be a class action suit against chrysler over the 2.7?

[1970440RT]

   
It's crazy that the engine got put into production with that kind of design problem anyway. 

Detroit can't keep doing stuff like this and then act like they're serious about competing with the Asians' rep for quality. 
People tend to remember it when the company's flagship large car platform is barfing engines every 80,000 miles.

 

     You'd be surprised what the Mfr's put into production.  All company's have their issues with design flaws.  Speaking of, I hope all you GM owners have gotten rid of your 3.1 liter cars!!  Just did another intake manifold gasket on a Malibu last weekend, lucky for the owner the coolant leaked to the outside of the block and not to the inside. 

     My good buddy was, until recently, a wrench at a Dodge dealership and said that the 2.7 is a poor design but as long as the oil is changed EVERY 3000 mi. it will live.  My neighbor's 2.7 Intrepid is at 120k and still good.

[twilt]

My good buddy was, until recently, a wrench at a Dodge dealership and said that the 2.7 is a poor design but as long as the oil is changed EVERY 3000 mi. it will live.  My neighbor's 2.7 Intrepid is at 120k and still good.

Buddy is wrong. changing the oil every 3k isn`t enough. Regardless, the factory suggested oil change interval is more like 5-6k. Stick to that guidleine and you will be lucky to see 70k. Truth is that 120k miles isn`t much by todays standards. Note that all the techs and shop owners that have contributed to this post agree that it is a POS and/or would not recommend anyone buy one.

[hemigeno]

From what I'm reading though, it seems that the problems are confined to the earlier iterations of the 2.7.   Correct me if I'm wrong here, but according to Allpar.com the design was supposedly changed sometime between 2002 and 2004 to eliminate the sludge problem.  Has there been enough experience with the newer models to say if that is true or not?

[1970440RT]

Buddy is wrong. changing the oil every 3k isn`t enough. Regardless, the factory suggested oil change interval is more like 5-6k. Stick to that guidleine and you will be lucky to see 70k. Truth is that 120k miles isn`t much by todays standards. Note that all the techs and shop owners that have contributed to this post agree that it is a POS and/or would not recommend anyone buy one.

     I also agree that it is a pos and would never buy one.  The factory manual...Therin lies the problem.  Most people with out car do it yourself skill will get an oil change at the mfr. recommended interval if even that.  People like us change the oil ourselves in our driveway, so we know when we did it, more than likely every 3k miles ( regardless of what the mfr. interval was)  we would be way ahead of the game.  My neighbors car apparently falls into this category since he's had it since new.  120k is doable, at least in this case.   
    In a related incident, a Hyundai will not go 17k without an oil change.  My douchebag brother in law is now the proud owner of an imported boat anchor, despite me reminding him every family get together to get the oil changed.   He also is wondering how the Hyundai garage knew he never changed the oil.

[twilt]

Happened to see one of my old service manager a couple of days ago, who now works at a Chrysler dealership service dept.. He stopped by to show me his new 06 Charger, which i have to admit looked pretty sharp.... a burnt orange R/T with 5.7 L Hemi. I mentioned the 2.7 and his eyes rolled into the back of his head . He pretty much said that they see a lot of them in with oiling  system related engine problems. He said to stay away from 2004 and older.

[glenh2nd]

From my experience as a Parts Manager I would not buy a used vehicle, pre-2003, with a 2.7L. I haven't seem any problems yet with 2004 and above models. As most have suggested, if you do own one, using synthetic oil is the way to go. The 2.7L is also one of the most expensive remanufactured engines we sell with a price tag of $4700!

Ouch!

~Glen

[twilt]

Update- I found out that one of my customers was able to receive a sizable settlement (3-4k)  in regard to their 2.7L intrepid. I had encouraged them to do some internet searching in regard to the oil sludging problem and potential class action lawsuits.  Apparently chrysler has hired an outside company to negotiate settlements. I will follow up with more specific information.   

[Charger_Croatia]

I have owned '01 Sebring Sedan 2.7 LXi which was sold with 35k on it two years ago. As far as I know buyer didn't have any complaint so far. Oil change interval was 7500 miles, with 10W40 synthetic oil. I never found any sign of sludge so I guess oil quality is an issue here; even when change oil was not black but brown and clear. Also I must say that we have 95 octane as regular fuel so maybe that is more suitable for this engine. There was once fuel issue with local fuel supplier and there were engine failures with those who refueled cars with that s**t (European cars, Japanese cars etc). Among them was one Sebring owner who only needs to clean injection system, no serious failure like on other cars.

Right  now I have '05 Sebring Convertible with 2.7 with 10k, oil change interval remain 7500 miles, oil remain synthetic but now I'm using 100 octane fuel (sulphur free). So, I have only good experience with 2.7 liter engine.