HEMI ENGINE QUESTIONS

[Ryan.C]

I ran into a guy that has a 472 HEMI engine for sale, built in 2014. It is a cast iron block, not sure if it is OE or a newer block. It has mopar performance aluminum heads, 4BBL intake, 850 Holley, hooker headers and Schumacher mounts. Oh and a complete ignition system. It also has been broken in and "tuned", not sure what level of tuning was done. Anyway I am looking for what would be a fair price for the Engine.

Thanks.

-Ryan

[c00nhunterjoe]

You need receipts and visual proof... i would never buy an assembled stroker and pay stroker prices without seeing the receipts, machine shop that built it, and then at a minimum have the oil pan off to verify what im being told is for sale is legit.... im sure being a hemi, he sill be asking premium prices.

[ACUDANUT]

 I am just Guessing here.  10K

[Ryan.C]

Good point about receipts and visual inspection of the internals. Anything else I should look/ask about?

BTW he is asking 12K.

[68X426]

It can easily be $12,000 to build, depending on components and the hours involved in the details.  $15k to $20k if all top end items were bought at full price.

So for $12k he has to document 100% everything.  Otherwise very steep discounts apply because you don't know what filling is in this Hemi pie.

[c00nhunterjoe]

I treat everything as a core until the seller proves me every point of the sale.

[Scaregrabber]

$12k is about right. The Hooker headers are junk, their jig was worn out years ago and you can't seal them up without work. By the time you weld them up, realign the ports and grind them smooth you might as well buy TTI's, The single 4 intake pretty much has no value either, lots for sale as no one wants them and they don't make any power, the MP heads can have problems dropping seats, also the Schumacher mounts probably work okay in a B-body but when guys try to use them on an E-body the shaker won't line up right. Not trying to be negative, it's just those parts can have issues which might influence whether the deal would work for you or not.

[Ryan.C]

Thanks for the replies so far guys 

I got a little more info about the Hemi today (although not much). The engine builder is a gentleman by the name Jim Gosselin that operates out of North Bridge Massachusetts. I was unable to find much info on the shop (Jim Gosselin auto racing) using the Google. Has anyone heard anything about this particular engine builder? What Hemi specific questions should I be asking when I call Mon or Tues?

Thanks.

[70 sublime]

Maybe first question should ask

Why are you selling it ?

[timmycharger]

Put this in a google search:


jim gosselin gozzy mopar




I bought a trans from him along with other parts with no issue but that was years ago. 

[Ryan.C]

Maybe first question should ask

Why are you selling it ?

Apparently he is and always has been a GM guy. Sounds like his brothers are mopar guys and wanted to build one because they like them  The seller reports that he has never pulled the engine out of the crate.

[Ryan.C]

Put this in a google search:


jim gosselin gozzy mopar




I bought a trans from him along with other parts with no issue but that was years ago. 

It would appear that Mr. Gosselin has more than a few unhappy Hemi engine customers as per the Google search results. I was able to find a few that were also very satisfied customers.

How much do you guys think it would cost to have a machine shop go through a crate engine and give it a clean bill of health?? Just looking for a ballpark figure.

[cdr]

There is no way to know cost until it is taken apart, what if they bored & honed it wrong, piston skirt clearance to loose, it could get VERY expensive to fix.

[68X426]

Maybe first question should ask Why are you selling it ?
The seller reports that he has never pulled the engine out of the crate.

Your original post said the motor it was broken in and tuned.  Now it's a crate, unused.

I ran into a guy .... has been broken in and "tuned"

You should run away since the seller can't get his story straight.  

[timmycharger]

Maybe first question should ask

Why are you selling it ?

Apparently he is and always has been a GM guy. Sounds like his brothers are mopar guys and wanted to build one because they like them  The seller reports that he has never pulled the engine out of the crate.

I am pretty sure the seller, Jim Gosselin is not a GM guy. Granted its been years since I interacted with him but in the early 2000's he was definitely a Mopar guy. He was running an A body Cuda at NE Dragway, I believe the car name was "aftershock".

He had only Mopar stuff when I dealt with him

[Ryan.C]

Maybe first question should ask

Why are you selling it ?

Apparently he is and always has been a GM guy. Sounds like his brothers are mopar guys and wanted to build one because they like them   The seller reports that he has never pulled the engine out of the crate.

I am pretty sure the seller, Jim Gosselin is not a GM guy. Granted its been years since I interacted with him but in the early 2000's he was definitely a Mopar guy. He was running an A body Cuda at NE Dragway, I believe the car name was "aftershock".

He had only Mopar stuff when I dealt with him

Hmmmm, I should clarify.

The seller of the Hemi is Ron. Ron wanted a Hemi for his 66 Plymouth B-body so he contacted Jim Gosselin and had one built and never installed or ran the engine after it was delivered. Ron lost interest and now wishes to sell his Hemi.

I appreciate the replies and I think many of you are right I will pass on the engine. Sorry for the confusion and thanks again!