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Need help with cutout for quarter windows.

Started by Stagepirat, September 23, 2017, 12:22:42 PM

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Stagepirat

Hello.
I finally found quarter windows for my charger (1973/74). The car came out the factory with vinyl roof and opera windows. Now it seems, that when I put in the quarter windows, I need to cut out a piece of the body so that the windows can move. I already saw that on other Chargers, but didn´t measure the cut or made a picture....
So could maybe on of you guys tell me what dimensions the cut should have and where exactly it should be. Maybe send me some pictures, maybe with a scale on it...

Thank you
Axel

Nacho-RT74

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Not related.

The weatherstrip you have there really must take a vinyl cover known as WINDLACE COVER. Is interior color matched. Sometimes can be found by meters/feet on some kind of shops, but there are some resto dealers offering those cut to fit.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Stagepirat

Thank you.
Do you maybe have a picture of the "Windlace cover", so I can imagine what I´m looking for. But anyway I will need to cut in the steel to give the window enough space to move properly, right?

Nacho-RT74

my car is not with me to help you out on the cut out sorry.

windlace cover, runs from the very top up to hide down the door sill plate molding



Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

finally could find a better angle view for the windlace cover

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Stagepirat

Thank you.
But how does it look under the rubber? Is it your car? Could you maybe unscrew the four screws and make a picture of how the metal looks?

Nacho-RT74

the pic I posted is to show the windlace cover not the quarter jam cut for the glass. No my car is not with me at this moment to show you that. I was already show you if it was posible. I can keep searching for a pic to you.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

I just found this pic from a member's car on google search. Since he hosted the pic at Photobucket and they are not allowing to share pics for 3rd part hostage is not posible to get the pic on board anymore BUT google search still shows it, blurry, thought. I hope this helps
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

green69rt

Here's a pic of my 69 and it looks real close to the pic Nacho posted.

You might go at this in a different way.   Get the seal (good luck), and then use the seal as a template to carve out the metal behind it.

These look like they might fit.... :shruggy:

http://metrommp.com/?f=detail&ModelNumber=ALP%207012&VehicleYear=1974&Make=DODGE&Model=CHARGER



Nacho-RT74

well, 3rd gen has the advantage of the sheetmetal shape tells you where aprox finish the cut... 2nd gen seems to be completelly flat
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

green69rt

Yes, I didn't notice till you said something.

Stagepirat

Thank you.
That already helps me a lot.
Is it possible, that the shape of the sheetmetal is different between a SE Charger and a normal one? Especially in that part of the car "rear window / door"?
I thought on all Chargers from the same production year the body shape is exactly the same. Above all to reduce production costs....

I still have the "U-jamb seals" from the donor car of which I took the rear windows.
And they does´t seem to fit on my car. But both cars were 73 Chargers. Only that mine was a SE with the "opera" windows.

Stagepirat

It seems, that there is a difference. Because I can only find the U-jamb seals for non SE cars....
But I would rather have the SE U jambs an cut them with a scissor than buying the non SE ones that don´t fit....



Nacho-RT74

the seal for that is diff between SE and Hardtops/coupes for obvious reasons... The SE doesn't need that seal  because that area is part of the roof rail weatherstrip... along with the molding for it.

Since you are becoming your SE on a hardtop, you will need now a hardtop parts... this includes all the weatherstriping, seals and molds for it... once again for obvious reasons. Forget about SEs parts to you now
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Stagepirat