Unusual Vin No

[sneezi]

Some interesting information 500jon.
I've never heard or seen those heads before.

This is why I have come here for information

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Some interesting information 500jon.
I've never heard or seen those heads before.

That's because they were never made it into production. As one who can relate, I have a feeling that he was being a tad bit factious

[c00nhunterjoe]

Its easy to solve, post the vin tag and fender tag and broadcast sheet.

[hemi-hampton]

Its easy to solve, post the vin tag and fender tag and broadcast sheet.

Yeah, That's what I said, problem solved & cased closed. But instead, lets all just speculate what it could be or might be for next 2 or 3 months as we wait for pics that might not ever come

[500Jon]

No harm meant Sneezi, just teasing!

There is a lot of rare stuff out there still to be found!
The ballstud hemi and the 440 Weslake Ovalport do exist!

They are 'One-off' made for the future (now the long past) of Mopar engineering!
Chrysler knew that the Hemi would probably get 'outlawed' in Nascar.
So, they tried to get in early with some 'cheaper' street friendly engines for passenger cars (then Nascar).
The OVALPORT 440 Engine was sent to Weslake UK, in the late sixties for development work.
Weslake had great success with other Amercian engines and were top of da TREE back then.

But the 'W2' ovalport 440 design was never furthered unlike the smallblock W2 head.
I'm sure it would have been very succesful and a nice addition after the '906' 68-70 era.
Instead Mother Mopar went full smog...

As you can see the Block and heads are drilled for EXTRA waterways around the plug areas.
This was taken up with the later Motorhome engines in the mid-seventies.
Huge 2.250 intakes and 1.80 exhausts would have breathed well.
The rockers are custom castings too, more like the Indy types we have now.

Rumoured to make over 600hp on the Dyno, well up with the 426 hemi's.

[500Jon]

The neatest thing about the 440 Weslake is the custom made 440-length 'hemi' rods with 7/16 rod bolts!

Normal length 426 6.860 hemi rod in foreground, 440 6.760 hemi rod and SIXPACK piston behind.
Very trick engineering for 1969...

How do we know it was destined to be a passenger car head, its quite obvious when you look at the heat crossover.

These heads were cast well after the 62-64 max-wedge era and they are heat-crossover free!

[500Jon]

Weslake porting plate laid over a W2 smallblock intake gasket.

[500Jon]

Lots of STR internal works done to overcome distribution ILLS!
This manifold suffered with fueling problems 'back in the day' as did the 426 crossrams.

[68pplcharger]

 

[tan top]

  read about these heads years ago , in a mopar engine book  , interesting stuff  500jon , thanks for sharing    ,

[sneezi]

Wow....thats a very interesting story 500Jon, love hearing these stories.

Now the update is the Seller has bailed out of selling the car.
My friend thinks he was asking too much for a photo of the Vin number and tag (close up)
even though he told him im flying in from australia so i need to make sure the numbers are right.

I was quietly hoping it was one of those unicorns but i knew it could not be true.

[Moparpoolman]

If it is for sale, Where is the car?  Maybe a DC.com member lives close to it and can look into it.

[hemi-hampton]

Wow....thats a very interesting story 500Jon, love hearing these stories.

Now the update is the Seller has bailed out of selling the car.
My friend thinks he was asking too much for a photo of the Vin number and tag (close up)
even though he told him im flying in from australia so i need to make sure the numbers are right.

I was quietly hoping it was one of those unicorns but i knew it could not be true.

Lets see this photo of the Vin number & tag (close up) you talk about above?

[sneezi]

I was trying to say the seller was not interested in sending a clear photo of the Vin and
fender tag.
    The charger was for sale word of mouth and now the seller has changed his mind after all the questions.

I was only trying to help a friend.

[hemi-hampton]

  Sounds like he has something to hide, it all seems suspicious & fishy to me. 

[TheBipolarRoller]

A friend of mine is looking at buying a
69 Dodge Charger r/t.
He emailed me the Vin No XS29M9Bxxxxxx
The question is does anybody know what
the "M" is please??  I was thinking 6 pack
but have not heard of a 69 charger with a 6 pack.
Thanks in advance

X= Dodge Charger -------------- B-body
-S= Special
--29= 2 door sports hardtop
---M= Special Order 8 cyl.
----9= 1969
-----B= Hamtramck, MI USA
------ The last six numbers are the sequence number of the car.
-- If your friend wants the fender tag decoded, privately, send me a picture of it or the codes in a private message or e-mail me at thebipolarroller at yahoo [dot] com

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[cdr]

A friend of mine is looking at buying a
69 Dodge Charger r/t.
He emailed me the Vin No XS29M9Bxxxxxx
The question is does anybody know what
the "M" is please??  I was thinking 6 pack
but have not heard of a 69 charger with a 6 pack.
Thanks in advance

X= Dodge Charger -------------- B-body
-S= Special
--29= 2 door sports hardtop
---M= Special Order 8 cyl.
----9= 1969
-----B= Hamtramck, MI USA
------ The last six numbers are the sequence number of the car.
-- If your friend wants the fender tag decoded, privately, send me a picture of it or the codes in a private message or e-mail me at thebipolarroller at yahoo [dot] com

Best guess is a Six-Pack car but if you know anything about Mopars... if you had the money-- you could walk into your local dealership and basically order about any combination that you wanted.
If this turns out to be a Six-Pack car, even in this terrible condition, it is well worth $1,500 in my opinion. But that someone will have to have deep pockets because it needs a total restoration, a date-coded block etc. ad infinitum.
--You'd want to have Galen Govier look at it, document it, the whole nine yards. Then, IF it turns out in your favor-- send it over to Graveyard Cars. If Mark thinks there is enough of the original car left then he will do the restoration. But be forewarned, he has turned down [doing a resto' on] a very special car because, in his opinion, there was not enough left of the original car for it to be considered "original" after he had cut away, and replaced all that needed replacing on the car.
As for those who would berate the car and seller... don't even worry about them. They don't have the passion and TLC to posses a diamond in the rough such as this car. All they can think about is money! Hey, if you REALLY want a car you find a way to come up with the money. When I saw the opportunity as a kid to buy a 440 4-speed roadrunner [with a 318 in it] for $500, I took it! I did not have a dime in my pocket but I bought the car. When I had the chance to buy a 69' Hemi Roadrunner, sans engine, for $500 I jumped on it even though I only had $20 in my pocket. Never let a naysayer kill your dream.

ROFLMBO !!!!! WTF are you talking about ??

[hemi-hampton]

A friend of mine is looking at buying a
69 Dodge Charger r/t.
He emailed me the Vin No XS29M9Bxxxxxx
The question is does anybody know what
the "M" is please??  I was thinking 6 pack
but have not heard of a 69 charger with a 6 pack.
Thanks in advance

X= Dodge Charger -------------- B-body
-S= Special
--29= 2 door sports hardtop
---M= Special Order 8 cyl.
----9= 1969
-----B= Hamtramck, MI USA
------ The last six numbers are the sequence number of the car.
-- If your friend wants the fender tag decoded, privately, send me a picture of it or the codes in a private message or e-mail me at thebipolarroller at yahoo [dot] com

Best guess is a Six-Pack car but if you know anything about Mopars... if you had the money-- you could walk into your local dealership and basically order about any combination that you wanted.
If this turns out to be a Six-Pack car, even in this terrible condition, it is well worth $1,500 in my opinion. But that someone will have to have deep pockets because it needs a total restoration, a date-coded block etc. ad infinitum.
--You'd want to have Galen Govier look at it, document it, the whole nine yards. Then, IF it turns out in your favor-- send it over to Graveyard Cars. If Mark thinks there is enough of the original car left then he will do the restoration. But be forewarned, he has turned down [doing a resto' on] a very special car because, in his opinion, there was not enough left of the original car for it to be considered "original" after he had cut away, and replaced all that needed replacing on the car.
As for those who would berate the car and seller... don't even worry about them. They don't have the passion and TLC to posses a diamond in the rough such as this car. All they can think about is money! Hey, if you REALLY want a car you find a way to come up with the money. When I saw the opportunity as a kid to buy a 440 4-speed roadrunner [with a 318 in it] for $500, I took it! I did not have a dime in my pocket but I bought the car. When I had the chance to buy a 69' Hemi Roadrunner, sans engine, for $500 I jumped on it even though I only had $20 in my pocket. Never let a naysayer kill your dream.

You say even in this Terrible shape, How do you know what shape it is in. Poster never described it's condition or shape? You then say if it's real it's well worth $1,500 in your opinion. I would think a 1 of 1 unique 69 Charger R/T with factory original 440 6 pack engine is worth much more then a lowball $1,500?

[alfaitalia]

A friend of mine is looking at buying a
69 Dodge Charger r/t.
He emailed me the Vin No XS29M9Bxxxxxx
The question is does anybody know what
the "M" is please??  I was thinking 6 pack
but have not heard of a 69 charger with a 6 pack.
Thanks in advance

X= Dodge Charger -------------- B-body
-S= Special
--29= 2 door sports hardtop
---M= Special Order 8 cyl.
----9= 1969
-----B= Hamtramck, MI USA
------ The last six numbers are the sequence number of the car.
-- If your friend wants the fender tag decoded, privately, send me a picture of it or the codes in a private message or e-mail me at thebipolarroller at yahoo [dot] com

Best guess is a Six-Pack car but if you know anything about Mopars... if you had the money-- you could walk into your local dealership and basically order about any combination that you wanted.
If this turns out to be a Six-Pack car, even in this terrible condition, it is well worth $1,500 in my opinion. But that someone will have to have deep pockets because it needs a total restoration, a date-coded block etc. ad infinitum.
--You'd want to have Galen Govier look at it, document it, the whole nine yards. Then, IF it turns out in your favor-- send it over to Graveyard Cars. If Mark thinks there is enough of the original car left then he will do the restoration. But be forewarned, he has turned down [doing a resto' on] a very special car because, in his opinion, there was not enough left of the original car for it to be considered "original" after he had cut away, and replaced all that needed replacing on the car.
As for those who would berate the car and seller... don't even worry about them. They don't have the passion and TLC to posses a diamond in the rough such as this car. All they can think about is money! Hey, if you REALLY want a car you find a way to come up with the money. When I saw the opportunity as a kid to buy a 440 4-speed roadrunner [with a 318 in it] for $500, I took it! I did not have a dime in my pocket but I bought the car. When I had the chance to buy a 69' Hemi Roadrunner, sans engine, for $500 I jumped on it even though I only had $20 in my pocket. Never let a naysayer kill your dream.

Must be nice on your planet at this time of year....meanwhile....back on Earth.....!

[TheBipolarRoller]

A friend of mine is looking at buying a
69 Dodge Charger r/t.
He emailed me the Vin No XS29M9Bxxxxxx
The question is does anybody know what
the "M" is please??  I was thinking 6 pack
but have not heard of a 69 charger with a 6 pack.
Thanks in advance

X= Dodge Charger -------------- B-body
-S= Special
--29= 2 door sports hardtop
---M= Special Order 8 cyl.
----9= 1969
-----B= Hamtramck, MI USA
------ The last six numbers are the sequence number of the car.
-- If your friend wants the fender tag decoded, privately, send me a picture of it or the codes in a private message or e-mail me at thebipolarroller at yahoo [dot] com

Best guess is a Six-Pack car but if you know anything about Mopars... if you had the money-- you could walk into your local dealership and basically order about any combination that you wanted.
If this turns out to be a Six-Pack car, even in this terrible condition, it is well worth $1,500 in my opinion. But that someone will have to have deep pockets because it needs a total restoration, a date-coded block etc. ad infinitum.
--You'd want to have Galen Govier look at it, document it, the whole nine yards. Then, IF it turns out in your favor-- send it over to Graveyard Cars. If Mark thinks there is enough of the original car left then he will do the restoration. But be forewarned, he has turned down [doing a resto' on] a very special car because, in his opinion, there was not enough left of the original car for it to be considered "original" after he had cut away, and replaced all that needed replacing on the car.
As for those who would berate the car and seller... don't even worry about them. They don't have the passion and TLC to posses a diamond in the rough such as this car. All they can think about is money! Hey, if you REALLY want a car you find a way to come up with the money. When I saw the opportunity as a kid to buy a 440 4-speed roadrunner [with a 318 in it] for $500, I took it! I did not have a dime in my pocket but I bought the car. When I had the chance to buy a 69' Hemi Roadrunner, sans engine, for $500 I jumped on it even though I only had $20 in my pocket. Never let a naysayer kill your dream.

Must be nice on your planet at this time of year....meanwhile....back on Earth.....!

Sorry, I had been looking at 2 different posts: this one, and the swamp Charger. I melded them together when I was replying. I just hate to see Mopar brothers arguing.


--- I edited my post.